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PrintabletheVelvetRoper said: GrayKing said: thank god. she and they can stop waste their time and effort flogging this dog of an album. the sooner that happened, the sooner they could regroup and start working on something new to wipe away this whole horrendous year in Janet history.
I love Damita Jo. when you name yourself after one of her albums, i guess you're obligated to like them no matter what.  "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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VinnyM27 said: sextonseven said: Five minutes? It takes three to four years for her to release an album. I didn't understand the five mintue thing either. You people...    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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sextonseven said: CalhounSq said: Doesn't she have enough $ where she can just sit down for five minutes?
 Five minutes? It takes three to four years for her to release an album. Exactly. | |
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Stripe said: Does anybody know anything about Janet remasters? Control? Rhythm Nation 1814?
 None are currently up for remastering, but they should be in a few more years. L*rd knows, I'd love to get Control and RN1814 remastered with some bonus tracks. ::salivating:: | |
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VinnyM27 said: sallysassalot said: eh, i quite liked damita jo. to each their own though. So did I. It had many problems but some of it's songs ("All Nite", "SloLove", "Like You Don't Love Me", etc.) are among Janet's very best. It got a very bad rap due to the Super Bowl and radio. It was overall a very good album, and if you include the songs from the album that weren't on the offical release, it was really hot. I agree with both of you. Pleaseee, I PLAYED this album in 2004. Goodness. I really enjoyed Damita Jo. For me, I liked it more than 1993's "janet." It's way more listenable than AFY and it's consistent. The interludes bog down the flow in certain parts, but there are songs on here that I simply can't do without -- "Like You Don't Love Me," "R&B Junkie," "Island Life," and "SloLove." As a matter of fact, "All Nite (Don't Stop)" ranks in the upper echelon of Janet's very best songs. It's one of my top 3, that's how much I love it. 2005 is approaching and there are things in the works. Janet is working on bringing us fans something very special. I'm waiting with my debit card in hand. Yes. Yes, I am.  | |
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JANFAN4L said: VinnyM27 said: So did I. It had many problems but some of it's songs ("All Nite", "SloLove", "Like You Don't Love Me", etc.) are among Janet's very best. It got a very bad rap due to the Super Bowl and radio. It was overall a very good album, and if you include the songs from the album that weren't on the offical release, it was really hot. I agree with both of you. Pleaseee, I PLAYED this album in 2004. Goodness. I really enjoyed Damita Jo. For me, I liked it more than 1993's "janet." It's way more listenable than AFY and it's consistent. The interludes bog down the flow in certain parts, but there are songs on here that I simply can't do without -- "Like You Don't Love Me," "R&B Junkie," "Island Life," and "SloLove." As a matter of fact, "All Nite (Don't Stop)" ranks in the upper echelon of Janet's very best songs. It's one of my top 3, that's how much I love it. 2005 is approaching and there are things in the works. Janet is working on bringing us fans something very special. I'm waiting with my debit card in hand. Yes. Yes, I am. The thing that keeps "All Nite (Don't Stop)" out of my Top 3 is the fact that it isn't an original composition. She needs to tell Jimmy & Terry to give her something new and innovative and stop doing these essentially note-for-note instrumental samples of classics. That's why I really like SloLove (well, love it actually). So sad we're not going to be getting any remixes to that (if anything on the record is remixable, it's SloLove) because Virgin made really shitty single choices that screwed the album over. I think if the whole album had been as consistently addictive as the stretch from "Island Life" to "Thinkin' 'Bout My Ex", she might really have had a huge hit. It sucks that modern R&B albums are so bloated, because honestly, if she made a lean, mean record like Control again, it would really help her. [Edited 12/5/04 16:54pm] | |
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I understand what she's trying to do with the interludes, though - make the record sound like a long-playing LP (a la Donna Summer's Bad Girls, where every song on Side A&B flowed into the next effortlessly). Which can be done with flair if they segue the songs properly. But the interludes are just damn stupid. | |
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JANFAN4L said: VinnyM27 said: So did I. It had many problems but some of it's songs ("All Nite", "SloLove", "Like You Don't Love Me", etc.) are among Janet's very best. It got a very bad rap due to the Super Bowl and radio. It was overall a very good album, and if you include the songs from the album that weren't on the offical release, it was really hot. I agree with both of you. I disagree with all 3 of you. (Shocked, aren't you? )
I think the Super Bowl is the only thing that helped this album sell as many copies as it did. It's a boring rehash of her last 3 superior albums, and it sounds like she phoned in the vocals. And the interludes on her album become increasingly retarded as time goes on. In the past, even when her stuff was half-assed or a repeat, it was at least cutting edge. This is cutting edge for probably 1998. The songs suck, the production is dull, the vocals are lifeless, the interludes are moronic. Half the songs sound like the other half of the songs, and they ALL sound like songs she's already done in the past. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: JANFAN4L said: I agree with both of you. I disagree with all 3 of you. (Shocked, aren't you? )
I think the Super Bowl is the only thing that helped this album sell as many copies as it did. It's a boring rehash of her last 3 superior albums, and it sounds like she phoned in the vocals. And the interludes on her album become increasingly retarded as time goes on. In the past, even when her stuff was half-assed or a repeat, it was at least cutting edge. This is cutting edge for probably 1998. The songs suck, the production is dull, the vocals are lifeless, the interludes are moronic. Half the songs sound like the other half of the songs, and they ALL sound like songs she's already done in the past. That complaint can be made about almost every artist, so let's ignore that, hmmm? | |
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VoicesCarry said: GrayKing said: I disagree with all 3 of you. (Shocked, aren't you? )
I think the Super Bowl is the only thing that helped this album sell as many copies as it did. It's a boring rehash of her last 3 superior albums, and it sounds like she phoned in the vocals. And the interludes on her album become increasingly retarded as time goes on. In the past, even when her stuff was half-assed or a repeat, it was at least cutting edge. This is cutting edge for probably 1998. The songs suck, the production is dull, the vocals are lifeless, the interludes are moronic. Half the songs sound like the other half of the songs, and they ALL sound like songs she's already done in the past. That complaint can be made about almost every artist, so let's ignore that, hmmm? that's true, all artists have a certain "sound" to almost everything they do. the problem with Janet's latest is that the sound is so non-distinct from the previous albums, and even the other tracks on the album. when i'm listening to this album (and i have listened to it; a superior version of my own with the interludes removed and bonus tracks added), i honestly can't tell you the name of what song is on during certain sections of the album without looking at the tracklist or reminding myself of the one that was just on. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: VoicesCarry said: That complaint can be made about almost every artist, so let's ignore that, hmmm? that's true, all artists have a certain "sound" to almost everything they do. the problem with Janet's latest is that the sound is so non-distinct from the previous albums, and even the other tracks on the album. when i'm listening to this album (and i have listened to it; a superior version of my own with the interludes removed and bonus tracks added), i honestly can't tell you the name of what song is on during certain sections of the album without looking at the tracklist or reminding myself of the one that was just on. Yeah, a lot of it does sort of.....blend together. It certainly isn't her best. I have trouble believing anyone could like it better than janet. which is basically a collection of absolutely fantastic pop singles (with a VARIETY of sound, no less) and absolutely fantastic album tracks. | |
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JANFAN4L said: VinnyM27 said: So did I. It had many problems but some of it's songs ("All Nite", "SloLove", "Like You Don't Love Me", etc.) are among Janet's very best. It got a very bad rap due to the Super Bowl and radio. It was overall a very good album, and if you include the songs from the album that weren't on the offical release, it was really hot. I agree with both of you. Pleaseee, I PLAYED this album in 2004. Goodness. I really enjoyed Damita Jo. For me, I liked it more than 1993's "janet." It's way more listenable than AFY and it's consistent. The interludes bog down the flow in certain parts, but there are songs on here that I simply can't do without -- "Like You Don't Love Me," "R&B Junkie," "Island Life," and "SloLove." As a matter of fact, "All Nite (Don't Stop)" ranks in the upper echelon of Janet's very best songs. It's one of my top 3, that's how much I love it. 2005 is approaching and there are things in the works. Janet is working on bringing us fans something very special. I'm waiting with my debit card in hand. Yes. Yes, I am. I love Island Life. I love the song, and I love Janet's vocals. I could listen to that song over and over again. I also loved All Nite, R&B Junkie, Strawberry Bounce, Thinkin About My Ex.... I really like the whole album better than All4YOU, although All4You had some interesting tracks like Trust a Try. I'm not saying DJ was her best cd: really The Velvet Rope was probably her best in regard to social awareness and music. But I don't think Damita Jo. deserved the "bashing" it received by some critics and the public. Truly, most of the negative critical response was because the media and subsequently the general public can't seem to separate the music from the Super Bowl incident. In addition, as much as I hate to say this, I really do believe that Michael's legal problems and rep has indirectly impacted Janet. That said, I respect Janet all the more for standing by her brother. I don't care what body part she exposes, accidentally or not. I believe that her heart and priorities are in the right place. [Edited 12/5/04 17:27pm] | |
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GrayKing said: JANFAN4L said: I agree with both of you. I disagree with all 3 of you. (Shocked, aren't you? )Do you. This is America. | |
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Isel said: JANFAN4L said: I agree with both of you. Pleaseee, I PLAYED this album in 2004. Goodness. I really enjoyed Damita Jo. For me, I liked it more than 1993's "janet." It's way more listenable than AFY and it's consistent. The interludes bog down the flow in certain parts, but there are songs on here that I simply can't do without -- "Like You Don't Love Me," "R&B Junkie," "Island Life," and "SloLove." As a matter of fact, "All Nite (Don't Stop)" ranks in the upper echelon of Janet's very best songs. It's one of my top 3, that's how much I love it. 2005 is approaching and there are things in the works. Janet is working on bringing us fans something very special. I'm waiting with my debit card in hand. Yes. Yes, I am. I love Island Life. I love the song, and I love Janet's vocals. I could listen to that song over and over again. I also loved All Nite, R&B Junkie, Strawberry Bounce, Thinkin About My Ex.... I really like the whole album better than All4YOU, although All4You had some interesting tracks like Trust a Try. I'm not saying DJ was her best cd: really The Velvet Rope was probably her best in regard to social awareness and music. But I don't think Damita Jo. deserved the "bashing" it received by some critics and the public. Truly, the most of the negative critical response was because the media and subsequently the public can't separate the music from the Super Bowl incident. In addition, as much as I hate to say this, I really do believe that Michael's legal problems and rep has indirectly impacted Janet. That said, I respect Janet all the more for standing by her brother. I don't care what body part she exposes, accidentally or not. I believe that her heart and priorities are in the right place. [Edited 12/5/04 17:24pm] Reading the reviews was pretty amusing. It was as if a bunch of 12-year-olds had written them. "On this record, Janet explores the realm of.....OMG TITTAYS. TITTAYS!!!! OMG". TWO STARS. That's pretty much how all of them went. | |
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Isel said: JANFAN4L said: I agree with both of you. Pleaseee, I PLAYED this album in 2004. Goodness. I really enjoyed Damita Jo. For me, I liked it more than 1993's "janet." It's way more listenable than AFY and it's consistent. The interludes bog down the flow in certain parts, but there are songs on here that I simply can't do without -- "Like You Don't Love Me," "R&B Junkie," "Island Life," and "SloLove." As a matter of fact, "All Nite (Don't Stop)" ranks in the upper echelon of Janet's very best songs. It's one of my top 3, that's how much I love it. 2005 is approaching and there are things in the works. Janet is working on bringing us fans something very special. I'm waiting with my debit card in hand. Yes. Yes, I am. I love Island Life. I love the song, and I love Janet's vocals. I could listen to that song over and over again. I also loved All Nite, R&B Junkie, Strawberry Bounce, Thinkin About My Ex.... I really like the whole album better than All4YOU, although All4You had some interesting tracks like Trust a Try. I'm not saying DJ was her best cd: really The Velvet Rope was probably her best in regard to social awareness and music. But I don't think Damita Jo. deserved the "bashing" it received by some critics and the public. Truly, most of the negative critical response was because the media and subsequently the general public can't seem to separate the music from the Super Bowl incident. In addition, as much as I hate to say this, I really do believe that Michael's legal problems and rep has indirectly impacted Janet. That said, I respect Janet all the more for standing by her brother. I don't care what body part she exposes, accidentally or not. I believe that her heart and priorities are in the right place. [Edited 12/5/04 17:27pm] Spot on. Damita Jo was unfairly lambasted by the media, suppressed by MTV, came after a historic TV controversy, yet it managed to warrant respectable sales. It didn't do Control, RN1814 or "janet." numbers as far as sales, but it did debut at #2 (yielding the second-highest opening week of her career at 381,000 units) and two of its singles went to #1 on the dance/club play charts. Janet never gave up on this album, but a lot of people didn't want to touch it following Nipplegate. This was also an election year and if Janet went on tour to support this record in a Bush/Kerry climate -- she'd surely be the source of derision. MTV really killed a lot of this album's commercial sales with the pre-teen/teen pop market. Clear Channel didn't spin it in its markets as much as they did tracks from AFY. It's amazing that it sold almost a million in the US given all this. I don't think any other artist in her position could've done that. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Isel said: I love Island Life. I love the song, and I love Janet's vocals. I could listen to that song over and over again. I also loved All Nite, R&B Junkie, Strawberry Bounce, Thinkin About My Ex.... I really like the whole album better than All4YOU, although All4You had some interesting tracks like Trust a Try. I'm not saying DJ was her best cd: really The Velvet Rope was probably her best in regard to social awareness and music. But I don't think Damita Jo. deserved the "bashing" it received by some critics and the public. Truly, the most of the negative critical response was because the media and subsequently the public can't separate the music from the Super Bowl incident. In addition, as much as I hate to say this, I really do believe that Michael's legal problems and rep has indirectly impacted Janet. That said, I respect Janet all the more for standing by her brother. I don't care what body part she exposes, accidentally or not. I believe that her heart and priorities are in the right place. [Edited 12/5/04 17:24pm] Reading the reviews was pretty amusing. It was as if a bunch of 12-year-olds had written them. "On this record, Janet explores the realm of.....OMG TITTAYS. TITTAYS!!!! OMG". TWO STARS. That's pretty much how all of them went. most of the ones that I read said "On this record, janet explores her sexuality... yet again, for the umpteenth time, with no new take on it whatsoever." which is accurate. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: VoicesCarry said: Reading the reviews was pretty amusing. It was as if a bunch of 12-year-olds had written them. "On this record, Janet explores the realm of.....OMG TITTAYS. TITTAYS!!!! OMG". TWO STARS. That's pretty much how all of them went. most of the ones that I read said "On this record, janet explores her sexuality... yet again, for the umpteenth time, with no new take on it whatsoever." which is accurate. Not really. The album's about finding a new love (AFY was the divorce album). There are a few sex songs on the record, but so what? - critics ignored the rest of them and focused on the seduction songs. | |
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VoicesCarry said: GrayKing said: most of the ones that I read said "On this record, janet explores her sexuality... yet again, for the umpteenth time, with no new take on it whatsoever." which is accurate. Not really. The album's about finding a new love (AFY was the divorce album). There are a few sex songs on the record, but so what? - critics ignored the rest of them and focused on the seduction songs. I think it sums things up pretty well. "Janet has sex. Again. We've heard it before." "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: VoicesCarry said: Not really. The album's about finding a new love (AFY was the divorce album). There are a few sex songs on the record, but so what? - critics ignored the rest of them and focused on the seduction songs. I think it sums things up pretty well. "Janet has sex. Again. We've heard it before." More like: "Janet has sex on 3 tracks, but there are 22 on the album." | |
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Yeah, you guys talking about Janet being oversexed on Damita Jo, go back and listen to the cd again. Really there are only 2 songs that are blatantly sexual. The rest of the songs are just about love and passion.
Obviously, I really like the cd. And whether it be by her own doing or not, I really feel for Janet. I just hate it that her career is now defined by a damn Super Bowl half-time show. She is better than that. | |
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VoicesCarry said: GrayKing said: I think it sums things up pretty well. "Janet has sex. Again. We've heard it before." More like: "Janet has sex on 3 tracks, but there are 22 on the album." but they're ALL about getting it on. she used to sing about other things too, you know "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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Isel said: Yeah, you guys talking about Janet being oversexed on Damita Jo, go back and listen to the cd again. Really there are only 2 songs that are blatantly sexual. The rest of the songs are just about love and passion.
Obviously, I really like the cd. And whether it be by her own doing or not, I really feel for Janet. I just hate it that her career is now defined by a damn Super Bowl half-time show. She is better than that. well, you reap what you sow. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: VoicesCarry said: More like: "Janet has sex on 3 tracks, but there are 22 on the album." but they're ALL about getting it on. she used to sing about other things too, you know All about "getting it on"? A lot of them are romantic love songs. Isn't that what most albums consist of? | |
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VoicesCarry said: GrayKing said: but they're ALL about getting it on. she used to sing about other things too, you know All about "getting it on"? A lot of them are romantic love songs. Isn't that what most albums consist of? the generic ones, yeah.  "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: VoicesCarry said: All about "getting it on"? A lot of them are romantic love songs. Isn't that what most albums consist of? the generic ones, yeah. Well then I guess you don't listen to Prince's "generic" catalogue. | |
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GrayKing said: VoicesCarry said: All about "getting it on"? A lot of them are romantic love songs. Isn't that what most albums consist of? the generic ones, yeah. Well, then, that constitutes mostly all albums from the rock and pop era. | |
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let me clarify: albums that are comprised SOLELY of romantic love songs are generic. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: Isel said: Yeah, you guys talking about Janet being oversexed on Damita Jo, go back and listen to the cd again. Really there are only 2 songs that are blatantly sexual. The rest of the songs are just about love and passion.
Obviously, I really like the cd. And whether it be by her own doing or not, I really feel for Janet. I just hate it that her career is now defined by a damn Super Bowl half-time show. She is better than that. well, you reap what you sow. Now, you know you love Janet. Whether intentional or not, the woman just made a mistake. The the SB incident is the first time that I can remember Janet has ever done anything so controversial. In her entire career, Janet has held her head high and had been free of any "real" controversy. I just hate that this one incident is going to be the ONLY thing remembered about Janet. It's so sad and unfair coz so many others have done far worse than she. Well,I don't care about the her breast-baring coz I absolutely adore Janet, and I always will. | |
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GrayKing said: let me clarify: albums that are comprised SOLELY of romantic love songs are generic.
Bye bye Minnie Riperton, a shitload of Motown's catalogue, etc etc etc..... | |
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VoicesCarry said: GrayKing said: let me clarify: albums that are comprised SOLELY of romantic love songs are generic.
Bye bye Minnie Riperton, a shitload of Motown's catalogue, etc etc etc..... so be it. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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