well now, maybe. but the ideas didn't really come from her in the beginning of her solo career. the 808 stuff and the Nellee Hooper stuff. and whether or not it's appropriating into the top 40, she has been known to appropriate extremely trendy dj's/producers/remixers into her aresenal via maxi-singles and collaborations.

nothing wrong with collaboration, but the early part of her solo career seems like appropriation to me. she was interested in making that type of music, so went to the people that made that type of music and worked with them.

the more sure of herself she's gotten, the more she's moved away from that. Post is a step away from the type of music that made Debut an out-of-the-box critical darling. Homogenic another step away. still "electronica" but moving away.... Verspertine and Medulla are anything but.

GrayKing said:

Spoken like a true newbie expert.

just seems like she kind of fell into that style of music, working with a few people early on, before she left the Sugarcubes and then going full-force with it later.


btw, i'm not a newbie expert. i was born an expert. i've just needed to find new things in my life on which to offer my expertise

GrayKing said:

I don't think it was accidental. She was hanging out with people from that scene and had expressed the feeling that she was outgrowing the Sugarcubes even after their first album in '89. I think her ideas and her musical background were too broad to be contained within the confines of a college rock band. Even the Sugarcubes remix album sounds like a precursor to Debut. And Debut has its moments of club dubbish-ness, but a lot of it was quite strange for that time - One Day, Anchor Song, Human Behaviour, Aeroplane, etc. You could see her jazz and classical training early on. I don't think it was all hired help.

no, but she did hire producers who were well versed in the type of music she was interested in making, and it didn't just come from herself. which would be appropriation, which is what i was saying. the fact that she had never created techno music outside being a vocalist for a couple of DJ's prior to her solo career, but wanted to be one, means she appropriated that into her whole Bjork-thing.

GrayKing said:

I was arguing that she didn't just fall into it. And she was making some 'techno' songs as early as '90 with Graham Massey.

that's what i meant about working as a vocalist for a few DJ's. she did a couple other songs too ("Takk" and another one, i forget). but still, it's obvious she wanted to do that, but wasn't that, so she went to the people who did that best, namely Nellee Hooper, Graham Massey, Howie B., etc. it's not as if "techno" was just springing out of her left and right at the beginning. it was new to her.