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JANFAN4L

Stevie Wonder Bashes Eminem

Stevie Wonder Bashes Eminem for Jackson Criticism
Sun Dec 5, 7:54 PM ET
Source: http://story.news.yahoo.c..._wonder_dc

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - In a rare public outburst, Stevie Wonder has blasted Eminem (news - web sites) for ridiculing Michael Jackson (news) in a video, and suggested the rapper was hypocritical because he owed his success to poor and black people.

Jackson himself has already lambasted Eminem's video for the song "Just Lose It," which makes light of child molestation charges against the self-styled "King of Pop."

Wonder joined the fray by telling Billboard magazine that he was "really disappointed" in Eminem.

"Kicking someone when he's down is not a good thing," Wonder was quoted as telling the music industry trade publication. "I have much respect for his work, though I don't think he's as good as (late rapper) 2Pac. But I was disappointed that he would let himself go to such a level."

Added Wonder, "He has succeeded on the backs of people predominantly in that lower pay bracket, people of color. So for him to come out like that is bull."

A spokesman for Eminem was not available for comment. The song, hailed by the Los Angeles Times as a "playful look at celebrity voyeurism," is expected to be among the nominees when contenders for the annual Grammy Awards are unveiled on Tuesday.
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Reply #1 posted 12/05/04 10:45pm

Luv4oneanotha

JANFAN4L said:

Stevie Wonder Bashes Eminem for Jackson Criticism
Sun Dec 5, 7:54 PM ET
Source: http://story.news.yahoo.c..._wonder_dc

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - In a rare public outburst, Stevie Wonder has blasted Eminem (news - web sites) for ridiculing Michael Jackson (news) in a video, and suggested the rapper was hypocritical because he owed his success to poor and black people.

Jackson himself has already lambasted Eminem's video for the song "Just Lose It," which makes light of child molestation charges against the self-styled "King of Pop."

Wonder joined the fray by telling Billboard magazine that he was "really disappointed" in Eminem.

"Kicking someone when he's down is not a good thing," Wonder was quoted as telling the music industry trade publication. "I have much respect for his work, though I don't think he's as good as (late rapper) 2Pac. But I was disappointed that he would let himself go to such a level."

Added Wonder, "He has succeeded on the backs of people predominantly in that lower pay bracket, people of color. So for him to come out like that is bull."

A spokesman for Eminem was not available for comment. The song, hailed by the Los Angeles Times as a "playful look at celebrity voyeurism," is expected to be among the nominees when contenders for the annual Grammy Awards are unveiled on Tuesday.


that steamy pile of monkey crap has a grammy nomination?
WTF?
has music really sunk that low...
[Edited 12/5/04 22:46pm]
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Reply #2 posted 12/05/04 10:47pm

boriquateddy

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Oh give me a fuckin break!!!!!
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #3 posted 12/05/04 10:48pm

JANFAN4L

Luv4oneanotha said:



that steamy pile of monkey crap has a grammy nomination?
WTF?
has music really sunk that low...
[Edited 12/5/04 22:46pm]


Hey, Em's already won an OSCAR (WTF?!)

Can't explain it either. shrug
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Reply #4 posted 12/05/04 10:49pm

Luv4oneanotha

JANFAN4L said:

Luv4oneanotha said:



that steamy pile of monkey crap has a grammy nomination?
WTF?
has music really sunk that low...
[Edited 12/5/04 22:46pm]


Hey, Em's already won an OSCAR (WTF?!)

Can't explain it either. shrug

i don't want to throw the race card, but its because he's White!
It F*cking has to be!
theirs no other way!
or he sold his soul to Satan
its one of those 2!
[Edited 12/5/04 22:50pm]
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Reply #5 posted 12/05/04 10:50pm

VoicesCarry

He has succeeded on the backs of people predominantly in that lower pay bracket, people of color

Sorry, Stevie, only people I know who buy Eminem are confused white kids from the suburbs who don't know what real rap is. Black people are smarter than that.
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Reply #6 posted 12/05/04 10:52pm

Luv4oneanotha

VoicesCarry said:

He has succeeded on the backs of people predominantly in that lower pay bracket, people of color

Sorry, Stevie, only people I know who buy Eminem are confused white kids from the suburbs who don't know what real rap is. Black people are smarter than that.
Screw that
The bastard is nominated for grammy
For Just Lose it?
WTF IS THAT ABOUT!
i don't even care about what stevie said
i just want somebody to explain that to me!
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Reply #7 posted 12/05/04 10:57pm

VoicesCarry

Luv4oneanotha said:

VoicesCarry said:

He has succeeded on the backs of people predominantly in that lower pay bracket, people of color

Sorry, Stevie, only people I know who buy Eminem are confused white kids from the suburbs who don't know what real rap is. Black people are smarter than that.
Screw that
The bastard is nominated for grammy
For Just Lose it?
WTF IS THAT ABOUT!
i don't even care about what stevie said
i just want somebody to explain that to me!


No, they said he likely would be when the nominations are announced tomorrow.

And how do you explain the Grammys. Steely Dan album of the year? There is no explanation.
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Reply #8 posted 12/05/04 11:00pm

Luv4oneanotha

VoicesCarry said:

Luv4oneanotha said:

Screw that
The bastard is nominated for grammy
For Just Lose it?
WTF IS THAT ABOUT!
i don't even care about what stevie said
i just want somebody to explain that to me!


No, they said he likely would be when the nominations are announced tomorrow.

And how do you explain the Grammys. Steely Dan album of the year? There is no explanation.

STEELY DAN WON ALBUM OF THE YEAR?
WTF!
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Reply #9 posted 12/05/04 11:01pm

Hotlegs

Fuck It, I am just going to speak my mind. I am glad that Stevie spoke his mind and set the media straight. Eminen needed to be put in his place. I say more power to Stevie. Right Oh Stevie. fro horns
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Reply #10 posted 12/05/04 11:03pm

Luv4oneanotha

Hotlegs said:

Fuck It, I am just going to speak my mind. I am glad that Stevie spoke his mind and set the media straight. Eminen needed to be put in his place. I say more power to Stevie. Right Oh Stevie. fro horns

Not to sound cold hearted, and mean
i love stevie i really do
but... Stevie can't see the video
i don't mean that in a offensive way
but its a plain fact
he's just backing up his Pal
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Reply #11 posted 12/05/04 11:06pm

VoicesCarry

Luv4oneanotha said:

VoicesCarry said:



No, they said he likely would be when the nominations are announced tomorrow.

And how do you explain the Grammys. Steely Dan album of the year? There is no explanation.

STEELY DAN WON ALBUM OF THE YEAR?
WTF!


Two Against Nature, 2000. That was one of the funniest wins ever.
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Reply #12 posted 12/05/04 11:07pm

Hotlegs

Luv4oneanotha said:

Hotlegs said:

Fuck It, I am just going to speak my mind. I am glad that Stevie spoke his mind and set the media straight. Eminen needed to be put in his place. I say more power to Stevie. Right Oh Stevie. fro horns

Not to sound cold hearted, and mean
i love stevie i really do
but... Stevie can't see the video
i don't mean that in a offensive way
but its a plain fact
he's just backing up his Pal


Even if Stevie wasn't able to see the video, someone translated to him what was going on it and he fond it to offensive appparently. Furthermore, it is his right and obligation to speak on. Again, I say more power to Stevie. fro horns

music " The revelution will not be televised."
[Edited 12/5/04 23:07pm]
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Reply #13 posted 12/05/04 11:10pm

Luv4oneanotha

VoicesCarry said:

Luv4oneanotha said:


STEELY DAN WON ALBUM OF THE YEAR?
WTF!


Two Against Nature, 2000. That was one of the funniest wins ever.

who where they up against?
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Reply #14 posted 12/05/04 11:16pm

VoicesCarry

Luv4oneanotha said:

VoicesCarry said:



Two Against Nature, 2000. That was one of the funniest wins ever.

who where they up against?


Beck - Midnight Vultures
Radiohead - Kid A
Paul Simon - You're The One
Eminem - Marshall Mathers LP

It just typefied the "let's give it to the old soft rock geezers" mentality.

But wasn't the Backstreet Boys "Millennium" nominated for album of the year the year before? I mean that's how much credibility these awards have.
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Reply #15 posted 12/05/04 11:23pm

Luv4oneanotha

VoicesCarry said:

Luv4oneanotha said:


who where they up against?


Beck - Midnight Vultures
Radiohead - Kid A
Paul Simon - You're The One
Eminem - Marshall Mathers LP

It just typefied the "let's give it to the old soft rock geezers" mentality.

But wasn't the Backstreet Boys "Millennium" nominated for album of the year the year before? I mean that's how much credibility these awards have.
[Edited 12/5/04 23:17pm]

WTF!
amd they won?
lmfao maybe the christians are right
Armageddon is upon us!
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Reply #16 posted 12/05/04 11:23pm

GrayKing

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the only thing more tired than Eminim taking cheap potshots at easy-target celebrities is those celebrities (and others) mouthing off about how disappointed they are in him or how vile they find him to be.


lord, it just goes on and on rolleyes
"Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one."
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Reply #17 posted 12/05/04 11:31pm

Hotlegs

GrayKing said:

the only thing more tired than Eminim taking cheap potshots at easy-target celebrities is those celebrities (and others) mouthing off about how disappointed they are in him or how vile they find him to be.


lord, it just goes on and on rolleyes


Eminen trifilin video in a sublimal manner let people know that racism is alive and well in America. I glad that the celebrities do put Emimen in his fucking place. Whereas, when if joe public was to complain and put Eminen in his place, we wouldn't have this thread and nobody would give a fuck. Again, I say more power to Steve Harvey, Geraldo Rivera, and Steve Wonder. fro horns

music " The revelution will not be televised."
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Reply #18 posted 12/05/04 11:35pm

GrayKing

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Hotlegs said:

GrayKing said:

the only thing more tired than Eminim taking cheap potshots at easy-target celebrities is those celebrities (and others) mouthing off about how disappointed they are in him or how vile they find him to be.


lord, it just goes on and on rolleyes


Eminen trifilin video in a sublimal manner let people know that racism is alive and well in America. I glad that the celebrities do put Emimen in his fucking place. Whereas, when if joe public was to complain and put Eminen in his place, we wouldn't have this thread and nobody would give a fuck. Again, I say more power to Steve Harvey, Geraldo Rivera, and Steve Wonder. fro horns

music " The revelution will not be televised."



that's such bullshit. racist rolleyes so no white person on earth is allowed to make fun of one person who happens to be black ever, under any circumstances? even if that person isn't even black, and it isn't even the person's race that's being lampooned?


nobody's got their titties in a knot over him making fun of Madonna or Pee Wee Herman or MC Hammer.
"Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one."
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Reply #19 posted 12/05/04 11:35pm

Luv4oneanotha

Oh C'mon the video was not racist
it was stupid!
yes i'll give ya that
but racist

hell Em poked fun at Elvis, and nobody complained
but when its michael negroe fundamentalist have a bug up thier ass

I like Mj
but we seriously have to stop defending him, and his Paranoia everybody must love me complex
The Right to PARODY is an amendment
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Reply #20 posted 12/05/04 11:55pm

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I think it's bullshit people wanna bitch and moan and cry the race card all the time when even Black people themselves clown Michael for not being black enough...oh poor thing...half of ya need crying towels for real....ya'll just mad because Em is a white boy gettin it...that mafucka paid his dues ya'll act like he's some hollywood bi-product like half of the shit ya'll listen to. If u know anything about hip hop and battletested MC's u would know what i am talking about...sure he garnered crossover success and I will agree White folks are more tolerant to his ranting and raving then most black hip hop artists who are equally as as controversial...I just don't see how half of ya'll are going to judge him on hip hop merits when all most of you do is post threads about who is better Madonna or Janet???? I figure it like this he's is comedic in a sense the mafucka pop shit about everybody...now we want to be on some sensitive oh it's Micheal shit...PUHLEASE!!!!!
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #21 posted 12/06/04 12:21am

Luv4oneanotha

boriquateddy said:

I think it's bullshit people wanna bitch and moan and cry the race card all the time when even Black people themselves clown Michael for not being black enough...oh poor thing...half of ya need crying towels for real....ya'll just mad because Em is a white boy gettin it...that mafucka paid his dues ya'll act like he's some hollywood bi-product like half of the shit ya'll listen to. If u know anything about hip hop and battletested MC's u would know what i am talking about...sure he garnered crossover success and I will agree White folks are more tolerant to his ranting and raving then most black hip hop artists who are equally as as controversial...I just don't see how half of ya'll are going to judge him on hip hop merits when all most of you do is post threads about who is better Madonna or Janet???? I figure it like this he's is comedic in a sense the mafucka pop shit about everybody...now we want to be on some sensitive oh it's Micheal shit...PUHLEASE!!!!!

Well he is a Hollywood Biproduct now
he lost all his hhip hop merits
he's not funny anymore
he's just old now...
IMO
has nothing to do with makin fun of mike
I just think Em Sucks
GARBAGE
he needs to walk his ass back to 8 mile and get new material
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Reply #22 posted 12/06/04 12:25am

Hotlegs

boriquateddy said:

I think it's bullshit people wanna bitch and moan and cry the race card all the time when even Black people themselves clown Michael for not being black enough...oh poor thing...half of ya need crying towels for real....ya'll just mad because Em is a white boy gettin it...that mafucka paid his dues ya'll act like he's some hollywood bi-product like half of the shit ya'll listen to. If u know anything about hip hop and battletested MC's u would know what i am talking about...sure he garnered crossover success and I will agree White folks are more tolerant to his ranting and raving then most black hip hop artists who are equally as as controversial...I just don't see how half of ya'll are going to judge him on hip hop merits when all most of you do is post threads about who is better Madonna or Janet???? I figure it like this he's is comedic in a sense the mafucka pop shit about everybody...now we want to be on some sensitive oh it's Micheal shit...PUHLEASE!!!!!


Give me a fucking break. Eminen is a punk just like his protegee 50 cent. If 50 was to pull the same bullshit as Eminen, I would call his ass out. He ass knows better not to pull a dumb ass stunt like that So , you need to save the race card banter for real. As for Maddona's old dried up cunt and Janet's Tittygate Scandal, I really couldn't give a fuck about those bitches. Please kill all the negativity and deal with the heart of the issue. As Steve said, he shouldn't be kicking a man while he is down. End of Story period.
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Reply #23 posted 12/06/04 12:34am

Hotlegs

Luv4oneanotha said:




Well he is a Hollywood Biproduct now
he lost all his hhip hop merits
he's not funny anymore
he's just old now...
IMO
has nothing to do with makin fun of mike
I just think Em Sucks
GARBAGE
he needs to walk his ass back to 8 mile and get new material



nod Exactly. Well Said.
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Reply #24 posted 12/06/04 12:48am

Sdldawn

well there goes another few hundred thousand extra sold cd's...



lol
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Reply #25 posted 12/06/04 1:06am

Janfriend

VoicesCarry said:

Luv4oneanotha said:


who where they up against?


Beck - Midnight Vultures
Radiohead - Kid A
Paul Simon - You're The One
Eminem - Marshall Mathers LP

It just typefied the "let's give it to the old soft rock geezers" mentality.

But wasn't the Backstreet Boys "Millennium" nominated for album of the year the year before? I mean that's how much credibility these awards have.
[Edited 12/5/04 23:17pm]


Uh, did you even hear Millennium?
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Reply #26 posted 12/06/04 1:17am

jacktheimprovi
dent

I like Eminem, or rather "liked" I honestly haven't been paying attention to him since the Eminem show because A. I don't watch MTV B. I hate the current state of mainstream hip hop (and music in general). I like Eminem in some respects, he is different than just about anybody else out there, you've got to grant him that. However, I do think he's quickly becoming tired. All this "controversy" regarding his latest videos is such trivial bullshit. All this attention is ultimately benefiting him, no matter what Michael or Stevie or anybody else thinks of him.

Stevie is right though, it's not very dignified, original or new to lampoon Michael Jackson now.
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Reply #27 posted 12/06/04 1:25am

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Isn't Eminem the one who wouldn't let Weird Al make a parody video of him because he was afraid it would hurt his image? Isn't Eminem the guy who was ready to punch that joking puppet dog in the mouth at some awards show for making jokes about him? If Eminem can't take a joke, how does he expect anyone else to? He makes a living off of making fun of celebs. He's a hypocrite.
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Reply #28 posted 12/06/04 1:28am

Luv4oneanotha

WildStyle said:

Isn't Eminem the one who wouldn't let Weird Al make a parody video of him because he was afraid it would hurt his image? Isn't Eminem the guy who was ready to punch that joking puppet dog in the mouth at some awards show for making jokes about him? If Eminem can't take a joke, how does he expect anyone else to? He makes a living off of making fun of celebs. He's a hypocrite.

damn where has weird al been in the last few years?
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Reply #29 posted 12/06/04 1:34am

Sdldawn

Luv4oneanotha said:

WildStyle said:

Isn't Eminem the one who wouldn't let Weird Al make a parody video of him because he was afraid it would hurt his image? Isn't Eminem the guy who was ready to punch that joking puppet dog in the mouth at some awards show for making jokes about him? If Eminem can't take a joke, how does he expect anyone else to? He makes a living off of making fun of celebs. He's a hypocrite.

damn where has weird al been in the last few years?



? hmm well weird al made the parody... so obviously he didnt mind.

he did a parody of lose yourself
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