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Thread started 11/25/04 7:08pm

VoicesCarry

Usher is now the only artist to top the Hot 100 for more than half of a calendar year

Thanks, ClearChannel! Keep up the good work.
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Reply #1 posted 11/25/04 8:51pm

variety1317

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I just ... I just don't get it.
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Reply #2 posted 11/25/04 10:00pm

JANFAN4L

VoicesCarry said:

Thanks, ClearChannel! Keep up the good work.


You took the words right out of my mouth.

If Ursher was such a huge chart success? Why hasn't Confessions went Diamond in the U.S. yet? Chart numbers are meaningless nowadays.
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Reply #3 posted 11/25/04 10:15pm

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JANFAN4L said:

VoicesCarry said:

Thanks, ClearChannel! Keep up the good work.


You took the words right out of my mouth.

If Ursher was such a huge chart success? Why hasn't Confessions went Diamond in the U.S. yet? Chart numbers are meaningless nowadays.




well, they do tell you who's sold more albums than whom this week or last. which, really, is all they're meant to do. correct?


also, it's not ClearChannel's fault that this album is selling well. well, not completely. it is their fault that people are hearing the singles incessantly, but they aren't taking them by the hand and walking them to the record store with a gun pointed at their back demanding that they buy the latest expanded deluxe special edition of the last 3 Usher albums. they're merely doing their job. playing the songs. if people like it, they go buy it. if a lot of people are buying it every week, it tells the radio station that there's demand for this album, so they play the songs more. it's a spiral, downward spiral or not being in the eye of the beholder. i'm sure we'd all be pissing ourselves like epileptic chihuahuas if ClearChannel was blasting "Musicology" or "Cinnamon Girl" 15,000 times a day on each channel (sort of like radio was doing with "When Doves Cry" and "Let's Go Crazy" in 1984).


and in the end, it doesn't matter how much a label pushes an artist, and album, or song to a station. the station is only there for one reason: to make money. yes, there's that idealistic hogwash that they're there to "serve the public interest" by licensing the publicly-owned airwaves, blah blah blah. but really, people get into owning/operating stations for one reason: to make money. which means selling airtime to advertisers. which means having an audience to sell to the advertisers. which means having on-air content that a large audience wants to hear. which means playing the same shitty songs 80 times in every 3-hour air cycle.


when people don't want to hear it, they tune out. the station loses audience. it loses ad revenue. and then it either gets its act together and gives the audience what it wants... or more likely changes format or owners.
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Reply #4 posted 11/25/04 10:28pm

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People love crap...
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Reply #5 posted 11/25/04 10:31pm

JANFAN4L

CalhounSq said:

People love crap...


There ya go.
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Reply #6 posted 11/25/04 10:34pm

GrayKing

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CalhounSq said:

People love crap...




bingo
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Reply #7 posted 11/26/04 12:42am

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VoicesCarry said:

Thanks, ClearChannel! Keep up the good work.

falloff
So sad yet so true. Wonder who's going to win the prize next year? hmmm
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Reply #8 posted 11/26/04 12:55am

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JANFAN4L said:

CalhounSq said:

People love crap...


There ya go.


Who won the election again?
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Reply #9 posted 11/26/04 7:06am

thesexofit

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purplecam said:

VoicesCarry said:

Thanks, ClearChannel! Keep up the good work.

falloff
So sad yet so true. Wonder who's going to win the prize next year? hmmm



The man on the left!
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Reply #10 posted 11/26/04 8:02am

Rhondab

CalhounSq said:

People love crap...



I love this crap!! I liked his past 3 cds.


I just don't like him.
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Reply #11 posted 11/26/04 8:59am

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GrayKing said:

JANFAN4L said:



You took the words right out of my mouth.

If Ursher was such a huge chart success? Why hasn't Confessions went Diamond in the U.S. yet? Chart numbers are meaningless nowadays.




well, they do tell you who's sold more albums than whom this week or last. which, really, is all they're meant to do. correct?


also, it's not ClearChannel's fault that this album is selling well. well, not completely. it is their fault that people are hearing the singles incessantly, but they aren't taking them by the hand and walking them to the record store with a gun pointed at their back demanding that they buy the latest expanded deluxe special edition of the last 3 Usher albums. they're merely doing their job. playing the songs. if people like it, they go buy it. if a lot of people are buying it every week, it tells the radio station that there's demand for this album, so they play the songs more. it's a spiral, downward spiral or not being in the eye of the beholder. i'm sure we'd all be pissing ourselves like epileptic chihuahuas if ClearChannel was blasting "Musicology" or "Cinnamon Girl" 15,000 times a day on each channel (sort of like radio was doing with "When Doves Cry" and "Let's Go Crazy" in 1984).


and in the end, it doesn't matter how much a label pushes an artist, and album, or song to a station. the station is only there for one reason: to make money. yes, there's that idealistic hogwash that they're there to "serve the public interest" by licensing the publicly-owned airwaves, blah blah blah. but really, people get into owning/operating stations for one reason: to make money. which means selling airtime to advertisers. which means having an audience to sell to the advertisers. which means having on-air content that a large audience wants to hear. which means playing the same shitty songs 80 times in every 3-hour air cycle.


when people don't want to hear it, they tune out. the station loses audience. it loses ad revenue. and then it either gets its act together and gives the audience what it wants... or more likely changes format or owners.

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Don't you think the record company paid to have the CD double scanned. Right now some woman is suing Sony music because she was not paid for some double scanning project she worked on for Sony. I will never believe Usher is really that popular. To me it is the Ricky Martin thing all over again.

I feel sorry for Usher because he is going to see a big fall in his popularity in terms of his music. You can't ride off of hype forever. i.e. Ricky Martin,
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Reply #12 posted 11/26/04 9:35am

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To me it is the Ricky Martin thing all over again.

I feel sorry for Usher because he is going to see a big fall in his popularity in terms of his music. You can't ride off of hype forever. i.e. Ricky Martin,
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Oh yeah, Ricky martin? WTF happened to that twat? Sorry I did not dig his music at all.....man the double scanning thing sounds nasty.....I never would of thought of that? Clever I admit.....
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Reply #13 posted 11/26/04 9:38am

dragondayz

Usher's album is good. I understand why it's selling well.

And to top it off, he has a new song with Lil Jon and Ludacris that is blowing up the charts already. The song is REALLY nice so you might be hearing Usher's voice on the radio for a while. This new song is going to be really big!
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Reply #14 posted 11/26/04 9:41am

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I HATE USHER
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Reply #15 posted 11/26/04 9:41am

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CalhounSq said:

People love crap...

if only there were a way to get folks to stop lovin it...
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Reply #16 posted 11/26/04 9:42am

thesexofit

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dragondayz said:

Usher's album is good. I understand why it's selling well.

And to top it off, he has a new song with Lil Jon and Ludacris that is blowing up the charts already. The song is REALLY nice so you might be hearing Usher's voice on the radio for a while. This new song is going to be really big!


No, those 3 already did a song this year?.....Ludacris is alright but lil jon is complete poo!
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Reply #17 posted 11/26/04 9:43am

dragondayz

Why do you call his music crap? Have you heard his album?

It's pop music, but that doesn't mean that the music sucks, well IMO anyway. I think that his album is really good.
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Reply #18 posted 11/26/04 9:44am

dragondayz

thesexofit said:



No, those 3 already did a song this year?.....Ludacris is alright but lil jon is complete poo!


Yep, they did do a song already but now they have a new one. I'll post it when I find it!
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Reply #19 posted 11/26/04 9:47am

dragondayz

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Reply #20 posted 11/26/04 10:04am

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I'm not surprized by this at all. What a load of shit. Not to say that I don't like some of the songs in the hot 100 because I'd be a liar if I said I didn't but the top 10 are so predictable and the next 10 are not much different. In fact, the top 10 songs are a joke. I would never buy any of this shit.
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Reply #21 posted 11/26/04 2:33pm

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laurarichardson said:

GrayKing said:





well, they do tell you who's sold more albums than whom this week or last. which, really, is all they're meant to do. correct?


also, it's not ClearChannel's fault that this album is selling well. well, not completely. it is their fault that people are hearing the singles incessantly, but they aren't taking them by the hand and walking them to the record store with a gun pointed at their back demanding that they buy the latest expanded deluxe special edition of the last 3 Usher albums. they're merely doing their job. playing the songs. if people like it, they go buy it. if a lot of people are buying it every week, it tells the radio station that there's demand for this album, so they play the songs more. it's a spiral, downward spiral or not being in the eye of the beholder. i'm sure we'd all be pissing ourselves like epileptic chihuahuas if ClearChannel was blasting "Musicology" or "Cinnamon Girl" 15,000 times a day on each channel (sort of like radio was doing with "When Doves Cry" and "Let's Go Crazy" in 1984).


and in the end, it doesn't matter how much a label pushes an artist, and album, or song to a station. the station is only there for one reason: to make money. yes, there's that idealistic hogwash that they're there to "serve the public interest" by licensing the publicly-owned airwaves, blah blah blah. but really, people get into owning/operating stations for one reason: to make money. which means selling airtime to advertisers. which means having an audience to sell to the advertisers. which means having on-air content that a large audience wants to hear. which means playing the same shitty songs 80 times in every 3-hour air cycle.


when people don't want to hear it, they tune out. the station loses audience. it loses ad revenue. and then it either gets its act together and gives the audience what it wants... or more likely changes format or owners.

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Don't you think the record company paid to have the CD double scanned.


i have no reason to believe that until it's been proven. and neither do you, really.


I feel sorry for Usher because he is going to see a big fall in his popularity in terms of his music. You can't ride off of hype forever. i.e. Ricky Martin,


Ricky Martin had 1 hot album in the US. and quickly felloff after the second single from it. Usher's had a few hit albums now, and several hit songs over the last 7 years. like it or not (and i don't, particularly), he's got a few years under his belt already, and likely has a few more.
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Reply #22 posted 11/26/04 8:37pm

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GooeyTheHamster said:

JANFAN4L said:



There ya go.


Who won the election again?


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Reply #23 posted 11/26/04 8:42pm

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I've heard that Tommy Mottola is Usher's manager and a big stock holder of Clear Channel. Case closed! He deserves the album sales becuae peopl are buying the discs but I think people have the right to hear more options on the radio. This is a shameful day in music.
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Reply #24 posted 11/26/04 8:45pm

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dragondayz said:

Usher's album is good. I understand why it's selling well.

And to top it off, he has a new song with Lil Jon and Ludacris that is blowing up the charts already. The song is REALLY nice so you might be hearing Usher's voice on the radio for a while. This new song is going to be really big!


That new song, along with the Alicia Key's deut, is terrible and trite. I prefer the "classic" Confessions singles to those piles of crap, trying to be a real soul artist.
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Reply #25 posted 11/26/04 8:52pm

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GrayKing said:[quote]

laurarichardson said:



i have no reason to believe that until it's been proven. and neither do you, really.


I feel sorry for Usher because he is going to see a big fall in his popularity in terms of his music. You can't ride off of hype forever. i.e. Ricky Martin,


Ricky Martin had 1 hot album in the US. and quickly felloff after the second single from it. Usher's had a few hit albums now, and several hit songs over the last 7 years. like it or not (and i don't, particularly), he's got a few years under his belt already, and likely has a few more.


I'm not going to defend Ricky Martin and was not and am not a fan, but I don't think the album sank like a stone after the first single. He had several hits from the album...and keep in mind, this was when sell through singles were still sort of available (I believe Ricky's singles were all or mostly "sell throughs") and it wasn't 100% based on Clear Channel. I don't question Usher's sales but I question the hit songs considering the way radio is now.
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Reply #26 posted 11/29/04 4:07am

DavidEye

Yeah,it sucks to see a second-rate wannabee like Usher sell millions,when we all know that there are so many more talented,more deserving artists.But this is why I don't listen to the radio or watch MTV anymore.It's crap.
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Reply #27 posted 11/29/04 6:24am

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GrayKing said:[quote]

laurarichardson said:



i have no reason to believe that until it's been proven. and neither do you, really.


I feel sorry for Usher because he is going to see a big fall in his popularity in terms of his music. You can't ride off of hype forever. i.e. Ricky Martin,


Ricky Martin had 1 hot album in the US. and quickly felloff after the second single from it. Usher's had a few hit albums now, and several hit songs over the last 7 years. like it or not (and i don't, particularly), he's got a few years under his belt already, and likely has a few more.

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First of all there is a pending lawsuit aganist Sony and Universal concerning double scanning and false sales. I will post an article about this later.

Secondly, Usher was a mediorce RnB singer until the last CD. The first couple of CD's he put out as a young teenager were total bombs. The kid is totally overated and people with a lot more talent them him have gone on the decline.
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