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Printablejojofran said: I fear that somehow satellite radio will somehow increase in negative music being played. I think that it will be linked to today's cable television. There will be less censorship and vulgar lyrics will increase. It may have some small perks but I genuinely feel that it will turn over to the "dark" side once it takes off. Depends on whether they can survive off of their subscriber base. (And who the majority of that base is.) If not, and they have to "bend over" and get pimped by the industry, you're probably correct. It'll then become a question of follow the money once again. tA  Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: Harlepolis said: Shiiiiit, I've heard discussions like these from RADIO DJs(not to mention: ON AIR). I mean really, DJs feel frustrated & disable to make an action, let alone us common folks. These discussions are uplifting abit,,but I don't let 'em go to my head coz I know what will happen next. As VinnyM27 mentioned earlier, satellite radio might be a viable alternative. (although not a free one) tA Tribal Disorder
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jojofran said: theAudience said: As VinnyM27 mentioned earlier, satellite radio might be a viable alternative. (although not a free one) tA Tribal Disorder I fear that somehow satellite radio will somehow increase in negative music being played. I think that it will be linked to today's cable television. There will be less censorship and vulgar lyrics will increase. It may have some small perks but I genuinely feel that it will turn over to the "dark" side once it takes off. [Edited 11/28/04 14:42pm] I'm definately less concerned about the ganster image of music than with the low quality and varitey of it. I love dance music but you just don't hear it on radio. I really love R&B and hip hop (even the dirty stuff) but there is no vareity on the radio and artists older than 25 are damn near banned. I think satelite, by offering all kinds of vareities, might help to earse the bad image of hip hop as well by offering alternatives and letting the listenter decide. | |
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VinnyM27 said: theAudience said: As VinnyM27 mentioned earlier, satellite radio might be a viable alternative. (although not a free one) tA Tribal Disorder
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Supernova said: I hear you, JanFan. I'm coming from this at the something different has to be tried to shake radio out of its complacency angle, I don't know whether or not this specific concept is a good idea. Especially considering I don't know what the new music of the legends they're talking about is like. Tho I don't take for granted that it can't be of any quality just because I haven't heard it. And you didn't hear this from me, but I don't think Bob Davis (Soul Patrol's founder) is a big fan of Aretha Franklin.
Hell, if it were up to me I'd incorporate Fishbone, Jimi Hendrix, Meshell Ndegeocello and Living Colour into some of these Black radio stations that generally shun them. And in general the long time artists who have been around since the 50s and 60s DO deserve to be heard, even if only to see how well the audience will take to the newer music (or if they will). The same courtesy that younger performers receive. The ageism in the music industry is completely blatant, and as GrayKing said, it's not limited to Black radio. ===== Bob is a big champion of older RnB artist. I am sure he is an Aretha fan. Bob is not speaking about pop stations. | |
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When people stop listening to crap, the radio will change. It's not the radio's fault that people accept it. I have an awesome R&B station that plays "Cutie Pie" and "My Prerogative" as well as the Temps and Tops hits. I listen to that all the time, in case anyone notices. But to cry that people aren't playing the old music, I mean, boo-hoo. That's how radio's always been. People want to hear the new stuff. They can buy the old stuff. When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, they act as a prism and form a rainbow. The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. Regardless of the day, I'm glad you were born. | |
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laurarichardson said: Supernova said: I hear you, JanFan. I'm coming from this at the something different has to be tried to shake radio out of its complacency angle, I don't know whether or not this specific concept is a good idea. Especially considering I don't know what the new music of the legends they're talking about is like. Tho I don't take for granted that it can't be of any quality just because I haven't heard it. And you didn't hear this from me, but I don't think Bob Davis (Soul Patrol's founder) is a big fan of Aretha Franklin.
Hell, if it were up to me I'd incorporate Fishbone, Jimi Hendrix, Meshell Ndegeocello and Living Colour into some of these Black radio stations that generally shun them. And in general the long time artists who have been around since the 50s and 60s DO deserve to be heard, even if only to see how well the audience will take to the newer music (or if they will). The same courtesy that younger performers receive. The ageism in the music industry is completely blatant, and as GrayKing said, it's not limited to Black radio. ===== Bob is a big champion of older RnB artist. I am sure he is an Aretha fan. Bob is not speaking about pop stations. is there really any difference these days? "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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laurarichardson said: Supernova said: I hear you, JanFan. I'm coming from this at the something different has to be tried to shake radio out of its complacency angle, I don't know whether or not this specific concept is a good idea. Especially considering I don't know what the new music of the legends they're talking about is like. Tho I don't take for granted that it can't be of any quality just because I haven't heard it. And you didn't hear this from me, but I don't think Bob Davis (Soul Patrol's founder) is a big fan of Aretha Franklin.
Hell, if it were up to me I'd incorporate Fishbone, Jimi Hendrix, Meshell Ndegeocello and Living Colour into some of these Black radio stations that generally shun them. And in general the long time artists who have been around since the 50s and 60s DO deserve to be heard, even if only to see how well the audience will take to the newer music (or if they will). The same courtesy that younger performers receive. The ageism in the music industry is completely blatant, and as GrayKing said, it's not limited to Black radio. ===== Bob is a big champion of older RnB artist. I am sure he is an Aretha fan. Bob is not speaking about pop stations. 
I never said anything about Bob and pop stations. And he has specifically spelled out his feelings about Aretha after attending the R&B Foundation Awards in recent years. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Excellent letter! Bob Davis speaks the truth!! I've been checking out the "Soul Patrol" website for awhile now,and I always agree with Bob's commentaries. | |
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Supernova said: laurarichardson said: ===== Bob is a big champion of older RnB artist. I am sure he is an Aretha fan. Bob is not speaking about pop stations.
I never said anything about Bob and pop stations. And he has specifically spelled out his feelings about Aretha after attending the R&B Foundation Awards in recent years. ----- Did you not type what Gary King said "it's not limited to Black radio." What Bob is saying is concerning Black radio he not talking about pop stations. Try going back and reading what you typed!!. I use to subscribe to Soul Patrols weekly mailing list. Trust nobody on that list has a problem with Aretha. As far as her talent is concerned. | |
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Esther said: Supernova said:
I never said anything about Bob and pop stations. And he has specifically spelled out his feelings about Aretha after attending the R&B Foundation Awards in recent years. ----- Did you not type what Gary King said "it's not limited to Black radio." What Bob is saying is concerning Black radio he not talking about pop stations. Try going back and reading what you typed!!. I use to subscribe to Soul Patrols weekly mailing list. Trust nobody on that list has a problem with Aretha. As far as her talent is concerned. Among other things comprehension of context is something you have a problem with, not to mention people's names.
Bob has a problem with Aretha, and said so. You don't like it take it up with him, not me. I couldn't care less. And keep trying, like we all know you will... ` [Edited 11/30/04 12:13pm] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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laurarichardson said: Supernova said:
I never said anything about Bob and pop stations. And he has specifically spelled out his feelings about Aretha after attending the R&B Foundation Awards in recent years. ----- Did you not type what Gary King said "it's not limited to Black radio." What Bob is saying is concerning Black radio he not talking about pop stations. Try going back and reading what you typed!!. I use to subscribe to Soul Patrols weekly mailing list. Trust nobody on that list has a problem with Aretha. As far as her talent is concerned. who the fuck is this Gary? "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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One thing I like about Bob is...he is VERY outspoken and is never afraid to say exactly what he feels.He once said something that I didn't agree with,and he and I exchanged a few emails on the subject....lol...but I respect his honesty. | |
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Supernova said: Esther said: ----- Did you not type what Gary King said "it's not limited to Black radio." What Bob is saying is concerning Black radio he not talking about pop stations. Try going back and reading what you typed!!. I use to subscribe to Soul Patrols weekly mailing list. Trust nobody on that list has a problem with Aretha. As far as her talent is concerned. Among other things comprehension of context is something you have a problem with, not to mention people's names.
Bob has a problem with Aretha, and said so. You don't like it take it up with him, not me. I couldn't care less. And keep trying, like we all know you will... ` [Edited 11/30/04 12:13pm] ----- I did not know you had become the grammer cop for Prince. org. It is called a spelling mistake. I am sorry you can't figure that out or just can't admit you screwed up. In the all the time I was a member of Bob's mailing list I never read anything bad about Aretha perhaps that has changed but since it is coming from you I can't take it seriously. | |
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GrayKing said: laurarichardson said: ----- Did you not type what Gary King said "it's not limited to Black radio." What Bob is saying is concerning Black radio he not talking about pop stations. Try going back and reading what you typed!!. I use to subscribe to Soul Patrols weekly mailing list. Trust nobody on that list has a problem with Aretha. As far as her talent is concerned. who the fuck is this Gary? ----- That would be you if I had not made a spelling error.LOL | |
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tA, you were right.  This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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