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thesexofit

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Better dancer?Janet Jackson vs Paula Abdul?

It would be unfair to compare Janet with Paula on terms of who made the best videos, as Janet's career has been alot longer, but as far as dancing goes, it is a tough choice?

The rivalry was obvious and both made stunning videos in late 80's.....whilst most would prefer Janets music nowadays to Paula's, u have to admit Paula was the better dancer!

Not only did "forever your girl" outsell "control" at the time, but the videos were more advanced chorography wise too, mainly because a then unknown Paula choreographed janet's "control" videos!

But Janet stepped up her game tons with "r nation" video and the vids that followed them! R nation which has her best dancing by far.....but I still side with Paula!

Just check "cold hearted" and u see amazing and UNIQUE dancing that is a mix of ballet and pop with tap etc.....Paula was unique and more versitile then Janet!

Also "knocked out" still stands as having superb dance moves, same with the first version of "the way that u love me"!

"opposites attract" did not have much dancing, but the tap was good

"Vibeology", the last video of hers I remember seeing on quite a bit was superb too but don't ge me wrong, Janet is a great dancer, with "miss u much" "alright" "Nasty" (wonder why?) being steller examples!


As much as u may hate to say it, Paula not only was more original then janet (her mix of dance styles), but also taught Janet how to dance too.....
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Reply #1 posted 11/26/04 7:55am

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i LOVE janet and all, but i have to go with Paula. that bitch can DANCE. i have the cold hearted video on my computer. it's one of my favorite videos ever. i mean...wow. and i'm a dancer myself. Paula is just an extraordinary choreographer. and she's part of the trinity, Her, Fatima Robinson (who did aaliyah's videos, and michael jacksons "Do you remember the time?"and backstreet boys, and sooooo much more...) and Tina Landon (Janet's previous choreographer and she did J-Lo's "Feelin' So Good" video) damn. i miss dancing.
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Reply #2 posted 11/26/04 8:05am

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glamslamkid said:

i LOVE janet and all, but i have to go with Paula. that bitch can DANCE. i have the cold hearted video on my computer. it's one of my favorite videos ever. i mean...wow. and i'm a dancer myself. Paula is just an extraordinary choreographer. and she's part of the trinity, Her, Fatima Robinson (who did aaliyah's videos, and michael jacksons "Do you remember the time?"and backstreet boys, and sooooo much more...) and Tina Landon (Janet's previous choreographer and she did J-Lo's "Feelin' So Good" video) damn. i miss dancing.



Iam a dancer (well I like to dance) and I was just watching both of Paula's home vids again and I thought "damn, I forgot how good she was at dancing".shame "vibeology" is not on one of her home videos.....I used to love that video!

what do u think of that darren Henson bloke and that other one who had his dance series on MTV? (he choreographed for nsync and Britney etc....)

What is so good about Paula is that I can tell her type of dancing as soon as I see it! U can c, without even questioning, that she did Debbie Gibsons "Electric youth" and "anything is possible" videos (both of which r pretty good.though i'm sure NO ONE would agree biggrin ), also I reckon she did Prince's "batdance" video, it looks like it anyway!

Who choreographed Prince's "cream" video by the way? The dancing is very good.....
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Reply #3 posted 11/26/04 9:01am

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yeah she did Batdance. that is true. you can tell her dancing from others. she popped in my head first time i saw the video. i thought she was one of the jokers. well, she might be. and there is NOTHING special about Derrin Henson. the only reason he became popular was because the people he was choreographing for were popular at the time. he ain't dancing no more. but yeah, Paula is hot shit. let me break out my old dancing tapes...
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Reply #4 posted 11/26/04 9:26am

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lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol @ anyone who votes for Paula Abdul.

PLEASE!

PLEASE!

You can not deny Janet's dancing.

Check Pleasure Principle, All Nite (Don't Stop), Rhythm Nation, Escapade, The RN/janet./TVR and AFY tours, Alright, MTV Icon, When I Think of You, Runaway, etc. etc. etc. etc. How is this a close call?

OH MY G*D, PLEASEEEEE. LOL HAAHAHHAHAA. Paula? HAHAHAHHAAHA!!! lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

You're tripping if you vote for Paula Abdul. I mean, yeah, different strokes or whatever, but it's soooo obvious. OMG! LOL.

This is almost funnier those peeps telling me Paula taught Janet everything she knows. LOL! Mannnnn... c'mon??!! LMAO!!!!
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Reply #5 posted 11/26/04 9:32am

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Come on Janfan4L, I love Janet's music and videos but Puala was the better dancer.....think of it from a choreographing ponit of view! No onw danced like paual before or after and janet always got help form other choreographers whuch is cool, but janet herself was not as good at Paula!


I wonder if janet was pissed at Paula 4 breaking into the music industry?

Paula, like many choreographers in general, is very underated!

I understand if u do not like her music but come on seriously U got to be kidding right?
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Reply #6 posted 11/26/04 9:41am

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i have the cold hearted video on my computer. it's one of my favorite videos ever.



Damn, i think we r one of the few who really understand and still appreciate how good Puala was.....did u know the sequence to "cold hearted" is based on a scene from Bob Fosse's "all that jazz"?
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Reply #7 posted 11/26/04 9:58am

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This is like some what came 1st the chicken or the egg shit?????


didn't Paula choregraph her shit back in the days?
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
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Reply #8 posted 11/26/04 9:59am

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boriquateddy said:

This is like some what came 1st the chicken or the egg shit?????


didn't Paula choregraph her shit back in the days?


Yep, she basically gave Janet her fiesty moves on "nasty" "what have u done 4 me lately".....
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Reply #9 posted 11/26/04 10:00am

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BRITNEY SPEARS WOULD DANCE RINGS AROUND BOTH OF THEM
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Reply #10 posted 11/26/04 10:11am

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BRITNEY SPEARS WOULD DANCE RINGS AROUND BOTH OF THEM
[Edited 11/26/04 10:00am]


disbelief rolleyes
I really hope you're joking?
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Reply #11 posted 11/26/04 10:14am

TheDeacon

Have you see Britney in concert? She is a very good dancer. Her moves are sexy and up-to-date whereas Janet's are stale and Paula's are REALLY stale
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Reply #12 posted 11/26/04 10:25am

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Have you see Britney in concert? She is a very good dancer. Her moves are sexy and up-to-date whereas Janet's are stale and Paula's are REALLY stale


Janet's moves are indeed stale, but she's still got some self-respect left in her. Britney on the other hand is a skank ho and I wouldn't walk across the street to watch her lip-sync all the way through a concert. She's a disgrace! I wish the talentless bitch would just disappear for good.
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Reply #13 posted 11/26/04 10:34am

TheDeacon

kisscamille said:

TheDeacon said:

Have you see Britney in concert? She is a very good dancer. Her moves are sexy and up-to-date whereas Janet's are stale and Paula's are REALLY stale


Janet's moves are indeed stale, but she's still got some self-respect left in her. Britney on the other hand is a skank ho and I wouldn't walk across the street to watch her lip-sync all the way through a concert. She's a disgrace! I wish the talentless bitch would just disappear for good.



She can sing, dance and act. Janet CAN'T sing, has stale dance moves and her acting has ALWAYS sucked(remember "Fame" and "Different Strokes---YUK!!!)
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Reply #14 posted 11/26/04 10:34am

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TheDeacon said:

Have you see Britney in concert? She is a very good dancer. Her moves are sexy and up-to-date whereas Janet's are stale and Paula's are REALLY stale



I never think Britney can dance.....she just looks provocative all the time.....thats all she's good at! Usher is so much better dancing wise then Britney.....as 4 Paula looking stale, she would as the music has dated, but u gotta put in into context.....Britneys "dancing" will look dated too.....plus Britney does no contribute anything to her movies i reckon!


U seen "straight up"? Their Puala is just dong spontanious stuff and it still looks good! Even Bob Fosse liked her dancing....."forever your girl" is another Paula video that is great dancing wise, Puala's moves r unpredictable.....something that is very hard to do.....
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Reply #15 posted 11/26/04 10:36am

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thesexofit said:




I never think Britney can dance.....she just looks provocative all the time.....thats all she's good at! Usher is so much better dancing wise then Britney.....as 4 Paula looking stale, she would as the music has dated, but u gotta put in into context.....Britneys "dancing" will look dated too.....plus Britney does no contribute anything to her movies i reckon!


U seen "straight up"? Their Puala is just dong spontanious stuff and it still looks good! Even Bob Fosse liked her dancing....."forever your girl" is another Paula video that is great dancing wise, Puala's moves r unpredictable.....something that is very hard to do.....



OH PLEEEEZ!! Let that old, stale Paula move over and make room for the ever talented Briney Spears.
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Reply #16 posted 11/26/04 10:37am

kisscamille

TheDeacon said:

kisscamille said:



Janet's moves are indeed stale, but she's still got some self-respect left in her. Britney on the other hand is a skank ho and I wouldn't walk across the street to watch her lip-sync all the way through a concert. She's a disgrace! I wish the talentless bitch would just disappear for good.



She can sing, dance and act. Janet CAN'T sing, has stale dance moves and her acting has ALWAYS sucked(remember "Fame" and "Different Strokes---YUK!!!)


No offence, but all I can do is shake my head at you. Britney is talentless and nothing you could ever say or do would convince me otherwise. Have a great day!
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Reply #17 posted 11/26/04 10:39am

TheDeacon

What is i about Britney that you don't like? Tell me "I'm a Slave for You" video was not one of the best dance videos to date; AND the song is funky.
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Reply #18 posted 11/26/04 10:42am

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What is i about Britney that you don't like? Tell me "I'm a Slave for You" video was not one of the best dance videos to date; AND the song is funky.



I give u "slave 4u", that had good moves.....not particually original (yet more bumping and grinding) but yeah it was good.....now compare that to "knocked out" by paula Abdul! It gives u more moves in 20 secs then in Britneys whole video!
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Reply #19 posted 11/26/04 10:55am

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But what makes Britney's stand out is the bumpin and grindin'. Paul could never move her hips like Britney. Paula was a little stiff. She also had gained weight when she performed on MTV video awards in the 90's. She was out of step and very uninspired. I have YET to see that in my girl Britney
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Reply #20 posted 11/26/04 11:42am

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Hi,

I loves me some Janet mighty fierce, but you have to give absolute props to Paula just for versatility alone. And the fact that she's choreographed for mimes, deaf children, and that dance sequence in "Coming to America", that puts her in an elite league of dancers/choreographer. However, when it's just about dancing, I have to give it to Paula for being able to do it all. Janet is FANTASTIC, but until she puts on some tap shows and hoofs it like Paula did, Paula will be forever my girl!

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Reply #21 posted 11/26/04 11:43am

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JANFAN4L said:

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol @ anyone who votes for Paula Abdul.

PLEASE!

PLEASE!

You can not deny Janet's dancing.

Check Pleasure Principle, All Nite (Don't Stop), Rhythm Nation, Escapade, The RN/janet./TVR and AFY tours, Alright, MTV Icon, When I Think of You, Runaway, etc. etc. etc. etc. How is this a close call?

OH MY G*D, PLEASEEEEE. LOL HAAHAHHAHAA. Paula? HAHAHAHHAAHA!!! lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

You're tripping if you vote for Paula Abdul. I mean, yeah, different strokes or whatever, but it's soooo obvious. OMG! LOL.

This is almost funnier those peeps telling me Paula taught Janet everything she knows. LOL! Mannnnn... c'mon??!! LMAO!!!!


come on hun, seriously. Paula has that "fire". i mean i LOVE Janet, i'm a huge fan, but when it comes down to it, Paula would kick Janet's ass all over the studio. I've never seen Janet freestyle. I've seen Paula. Janet can dance and all, but so can a lot of other black people. I don't mean to bring race into this, but just because Janet's black, and Paula's well, a mutt, but mostly caucasian, doesn't mean that Janet is better or has the edge. Paula just kicks the dance floor's ass. Now, maybe back in the day Rhythm Nation Janet, but not All For You R&B Junkie Janet. Paula just has that "IT" that makes her such a fabulous dancer. and it seems to me that you are being biased in your opinion just because you are such a huge Janet fan. i mean, i love Prince, but he isn't the greatest male vocalist, and i wouldn't say so just because he's my favorite musician. and i'm sure you're aware that Paula choreographed Janet's videos from the 80's. yet, we never saw Paula dance in them, maybe she didn't want to embarass Janet lol
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Reply #22 posted 11/26/04 11:45am

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p3r1i9nce said:

Hi,

I loves me some Janet mighty fierce, but you have to give absolute props to Paula just for versatility alone. And the fact that she's choreographed for mimes, deaf children, and that dance sequence in "Coming to America", that puts her in an elite league of dancers/choreographer. However, when it's just about dancing, I have to give it to Paula for being able to do it all. Janet is FANTASTIC, but until she puts on some tap shows and hoofs it like Paula did, Paula will be forever my girl!

biggrin André



I completely forgot about the african dance sequence in "coming to america"! thanx.....I also had no idea that she worked with deaf children.....I got even more respect 4 her now.....didn't anyone remember debbie Gibson's "electric youth" and "anything is possible" videos? Great dancing.....
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Reply #23 posted 11/26/04 12:06pm

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Deaf children or not, Paula is OLD SCHOOL and she needs to stick to American Idol and make room for a younger, hipper, better dancer like Britney(with Christina Aguilera a close 2nd)
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Reply #24 posted 11/26/04 12:17pm

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Paula is a wonderful choregrapher but her actual dancing is way way WAY too stiff and "cheerleader" to be considered natural...


janet (when not doing her lock-pop nation moves) is much more fluid with her dancing.....


interesting sidenote: Rita Moreno (in the dvd of the special edition of West Side Story) talks about how natural and fluid that George Kakaris' dancing was during the movie...and that in her book Fred Astaire was the only other male dancer who was that graceful...i never really noticed that in dancing before....

and thats something Paula lacks BIGTIME!!

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Reply #25 posted 11/26/04 12:19pm

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sosgemini said:[quote]Paula is a wonderful choregrapher but her actual dancing is way way WAY too stiff and "cheerleader" to be considered natural...


you MUST be joking.
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Reply #26 posted 11/26/04 12:22pm

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glamslamkid said:[quote]

sosgemini said:

Paula is a wonderful choregrapher but her actual dancing is way way WAY too stiff and "cheerleader" to be considered natural...


you MUST be joking.



no, im not joking..

are you? rolleyes


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Reply #27 posted 11/26/04 12:23pm

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want proof of the woman's stiffness?


her tap dancing at the start of Straight-Up..


doh!

she was all elephant.
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Reply #28 posted 11/26/04 12:32pm

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TheDeacon said:

What is i about Britney that you don't like? Tell me "I'm a Slave for You" video was not one of the best dance videos to date; AND the song is funky.


The song is Vanity 6's "Nasty Girl".
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Reply #29 posted 11/26/04 12:34pm

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But what makes Britney's stand out is the bumpin and grindin'. Paul could never move her hips like Britney. Paula was a little stiff. She also had gained weight when she performed on MTV video awards in the 90's. She was out of step and very uninspired. I have YET to see that in my girl Britney


Well now you have:









That chick has a linebacker's neck. And what's up with the North/South nipples? Too much tit surgery...disbelief
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