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Thread started 11/23/04 5:29pm

mrdespues

Gwen's L.A.M.B. isn't quite as good as the hype says, but...

It's still a mostly cool album.

My problems with it are that I was really expecting greatness from this record, but the only tracks IMO worth saving are the Andre 300 collabs. Everything else is sucky because it's too overproduced and convoluted. She never gets to the point in some of the lyrics...I guess I just like a song that MEANS something, but I guess this'll grown on me in a while... shrug

Anyone else iffy about this album?

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[Edited 11/23/04 23:27pm]
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Reply #1 posted 11/23/04 5:53pm

Anxiety

no. redface
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Reply #2 posted 11/23/04 6:09pm

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I'm diggin' it,more than the new U2.
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Reply #3 posted 11/23/04 6:10pm

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Nope.
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Reply #4 posted 11/23/04 6:36pm

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It's a no brainer party album
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Reply #5 posted 11/23/04 6:45pm

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Diggin' it. New Wave sound = always awesome.
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Reply #6 posted 11/23/04 9:53pm

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mrdespues said:

I was really expecting greatness from this record, but the only tracks IMO worth saving are the Andre 300 collabs. Everything else is sucky because it's too overproduced and convoluted. She never gets to the point in the lyrics...I guess I just like a song that MEANS something. shrug

Anyone else disappointed with this album?


It's a fun dance record. From the jump she said this is the album she wanted to make, even before she started it last year.
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Reply #7 posted 11/23/04 10:51pm

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I don't understand the hype either but I bought into it. I really love the second half but dislike the first half (except for "What You Waiting For?", probably my favorite song on the album). I think the songs that are really being praised on the site are my least favorite (but especially "Rich Girl", which has nothing going on in it). I don't dislike the record, but so far it isn't smacking on the head and screaming best album of the year. In fact, Janet is going to win that since it is probably the album from this year that I listen to a lot.
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Reply #8 posted 11/23/04 10:54pm

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Not got it yet, when is No Doubt churning out another???
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Reply #9 posted 11/23/04 11:22pm

mrdespues

musicman said:

mrdespues said:

I was really expecting greatness from this record, but the only tracks IMO worth saving are the Andre 300 collabs. Everything else is sucky because it's too overproduced and convoluted. She never gets to the point in the lyrics...I guess I just like a song that MEANS something. shrug

Anyone else disappointed with this album?


It's a fun dance record. From the jump she said this is the album she wanted to make, even before she started it last year.


None of that saves it from being at least partly naff. Let me rephrase my initial statment: I think this album isn't quite as good as the hype says it is.

That said, since my first post I've grown to really enjoy some of the songs, even if they have a sometimes too-sparse and electronic sound to them.

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[Edited 11/23/04 23:25pm]
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Reply #10 posted 11/24/04 12:46am

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mrdespues said:

It's still a mostly cool album.

My problems with it are that I was really expecting greatness from this record, but the only tracks IMO worth saving are the Andre 300 collabs. Everything else is sucky because it's too overproduced and convoluted. She never gets to the point in some of the lyrics...I guess I just like a song that MEANS something, but I guess this'll grown on me in a while... shrug

Anyone else iffy about this album?

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[Edited 11/23/04 23:27pm]


Totally agree with ya. I was so looking forward 2 this album and was a little let down.
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Reply #11 posted 11/24/04 6:38am

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I also agree in that I was SOOOOO looking forward to the album, and can't help feeling a bit let down. Bummer.

That being said, it's a pretty good party record (my favorite kind!) and I'm sure some of the tracks will grow on me.

"Harajuku Girls" in particular is my JAM. razz
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Reply #12 posted 11/24/04 6:44am

VoicesCarry

mrdespues said:

musicman said:



It's a fun dance record. From the jump she said this is the album she wanted to make, even before she started it last year.


None of that saves it from being at least partly naff. Let me rephrase my initial statment: I think this album isn't quite as good as the hype says it is.

That said, since my first post I've grown to really enjoy some of the songs, even if they have a sometimes too-sparse and electronic sound to them.

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[Edited 11/23/04 23:25pm]


Errr....and you have a Bjork avatar, right?
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Reply #13 posted 11/24/04 9:15am

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I really enjoyed LAMB. It has a lot of great tracks and styles, but it does seem kind of scatterbrained and overproduced at times. This kind of album has already been done by Kelis, twice -- check Kaleidoscope and Wanderland. Both of those sounded bugged out and were akin to getting high. When you listen to Kelis' first two albums you felt like you were on drugs -- that's how good it was. Gwen's offering, while eclectic, doesn't quite give off that same vibe. I felt like the album was trying to force its "unconventionality" on the listener whereas Kelis' seemed more natural and free from pretense.

My favorite tracks on LAMB are the Neptunes-produced "Hollback Girl," which sounds like a ghetto pep rally -- this cut grabbed me at first spin. "Cool" is my personal favorite, the track harks back to the style of Return To Saturn-era No Doubt. "Danger Zone" and "Crash" were great as well. "What You Waiting For" can't be denied and I can understand why it was the first single.

Tony Kanal definitely provided the better material on this project. I was very surprised by Jam & Lewis' "Harajuku Girls" -- definitely showed they haven't lost their touch as producers. It was so good that I'm hoping Janet will keep J&L aboard for her next project.

"Rich Girl" didn't click with me (since I've heard the original reggae version over the summer -- which was beaten to a pulp by dance clubs). Eve didn't help matters (she did sound a lot like Lady Saw from "Hey Baby" with her verses).

Nevertheless, it was worth the purchase. One of the better albums of '04.


"You stupid ho," edit.
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Reply #14 posted 11/24/04 10:05am

Anxiety

i think the new order track is gonna grow on me, i think i'm gonna skip past the last track a lot, but otherwise i'm all about this disc right now. nod
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Reply #15 posted 11/24/04 2:20pm

mrdespues

VoicesCarry said:

mrdespues said:



None of that saves it from being at least partly naff. Let me rephrase my initial statment: I think this album isn't quite as good as the hype says it is.

That said, since my first post I've grown to really enjoy some of the songs, even if they have a sometimes too-sparse and electronic sound to them.

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[Edited 11/23/04 23:25pm]


Errr....and you have a Bjork avatar, right?


don't get me wrong, i love electronica, but bjork does it with ART and she writes real SONGS and makes it sound HUMAN. i don't get that feeling from a lot of gwen's record.
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Reply #16 posted 11/24/04 4:56pm

Anxiety

mrdespues said:


don't get me wrong, i love electronica, but bjork does it with ART and she writes real SONGS and makes it sound HUMAN. i don't get that feeling from a lot of gwen's record.


apples and oranges, anyone?

i sincerely doubt stefani's out to tread on bjork's territory. to make too much more of LAMB than dumb fun pop music is to miss the point completely.
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Reply #17 posted 11/24/04 4:59pm

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mrdespues said:

VoicesCarry said:



Errr....and you have a Bjork avatar, right?


don't get me wrong, i love electronica, but bjork does it with ART and she writes real SONGS and makes it sound HUMAN. i don't get that feeling from a lot of gwen's record.



that was actually my problem with the Bjork album. to many humans (literally) and not enough real songs.
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Reply #18 posted 11/24/04 5:04pm

VoicesCarry

mrdespues said:

VoicesCarry said:



Errr....and you have a Bjork avatar, right?


don't get me wrong, i love electronica, but bjork does it with ART and she writes real SONGS and makes it sound HUMAN. i don't get that feeling from a lot of gwen's record.


It's a dumb, fun party record. Perhaps expecting profundity where it ain't never gonna be?
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Reply #19 posted 11/24/04 5:08pm

Anxiety

i don't listen to B52s expecting to hear radiohead. should i?
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Reply #20 posted 11/24/04 5:12pm

mrdespues

VoicesCarry said:

mrdespues said:



don't get me wrong, i love electronica, but bjork does it with ART and she writes real SONGS and makes it sound HUMAN. i don't get that feeling from a lot of gwen's record.


It's a dumb, fun party record. Perhaps expecting profundity where it ain't never gonna be?


I don't expect that, I just expected something that would blow me away. I still think she's a talented girl.
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Reply #21 posted 11/24/04 5:17pm

VoicesCarry

mrdespues said:

VoicesCarry said:



It's a dumb, fun party record. Perhaps expecting profundity where it ain't never gonna be?


I don't expect that, I just expected something that would blow me away. I still think she's a talented girl.


Oh, ok.
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Reply #22 posted 11/24/04 8:17pm

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JANFAN4L said:

I really enjoyed LAMB. It has a lot of great tracks and styles, but it does seem kind of scatterbrained and overproduced at times. This kind of album has already been done by Kelis, twice -- check Kaleidoscope and Wanderland. Both of those sounded bugged out and were akin to getting high. When you listen to Kelis' first two albums you felt like you were on drugs -- that's how good it was. Gwen's offering, while eclectic, doesn't quite give off that same vibe. I felt like the album was trying to force its "unconventionality" on the listener whereas Kelis' seemed more natural and free from pretense.

My favorite tracks on LAMB are the Neptunes-produced "Hollback Girl," which sounds like a ghetto pep rally -- this cut grabbed me at first spin. "Cool" is my personal favorite, the track harks back to the style of Return To Saturn-era No Doubt. "Danger Zone" and "Crash" were great as well. "What You Waiting For" can't be denied and I can understand why it was the first single.

Tony Kanal definitely provided the better material on this project. I was very surprised by Jam & Lewis' "Harajuku Girls" -- definitely showed they haven't lost their touch as producers. It was so good that I'm hoping Janet will keep J&L aboard for her next project.

"Rich Girl" didn't click with me (since I've heard the original reggae version over the summer -- which was beaten to a pulp by dance clubs). Eve didn't help matters (she did sound a lot like Lady Saw from "Hey Baby" with her verses).

Nevertheless, it was worth the purchase. One of the better albums of '04.


"You stupid ho," edit.
[Edited 11/24/04 9:18am]


It's definately worth the purchase. I just think the expectations for the best dance/pop music album ever seemed a bit high. Even the songs that I don't dig as much have their moments. It's a fun pop disc but I think Madonna and Janet do this stuff better, overall. That being said, I think I still might rank it as one of the best of the year (considering I didn't buy much new stuff that I fell in love with).
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Reply #23 posted 11/25/04 1:48am

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I BOUGHT IT TODAY AND I FUCKING LOVE IT!! THE PRODUCTION IS EXTRAVAGANT! biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 11/26/04 2:41pm

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"Hollaback Girl" makes me cringe. For some odd reason, I think of Fred Durst trying to rap when I hear that song. shake but that's just me.
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Reply #25 posted 11/26/04 4:49pm

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"Hollaback Girl" makes me cringe. For some odd reason, I think of Fred Durst trying to rap when I hear that song. shake but that's just me.


I think it sounds like a mixture of Tony Basil's Micky and Queen's "Another One Bite The Dust."

In fact I like the Queen reference in the song.
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musicman said:

AnckSuNamun said:

"Hollaback Girl" makes me cringe. For some odd reason, I think of Fred Durst trying to rap when I hear that song. shake but that's just me.


I think it sounds like a mixture of Tony Basil's Micky and Queen's "Another One Bite The Dust."

In fact I like the Queen reference in the song.


Yeah... it does kinda remind me of "Micky" and "Another One Bites the Dust"....but I like those songs for some reason. shrug I think I'm havin' issues with her voice on that track. lol As a long time No Doubt fan....I hope I'm not growing out her voice.
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