this is how i see it:

mike should write like he did for the "bad" album--
this album contains some beautiful melodies and fantastic storylines. he should take that and execute it like they did for the "off the wall" album, with live instrumentation. real funk, you know? maybe toughen it up a little, cause this ain't 1979 anymore of course.

MJ

CinisterCee said:

namepeace said:

and don't forget Rod. A classic MJ record consists of MJ, Quincy and Rod.

Did u know that mike turned down songs the Neptunes offered him 4 "invincible" and gave 'em to Justin!

CinisterCee said:

Yep, I cannot see Mike ever doing minimal sounding stuff, can u? Think about it, all his stuff is full sounding and from bad onwards, agressively rythmic sounding synths have always been used.....Mike don't do mellow dance no.! Never have I heard a track of his like that! Closest was "u rock my world" and that was average.....

CinisterCee said:

U remember Wrecks n effect "rump shaker" back in early 90's? Itsays Pharrel is on credits.....surely not the neptunes one?

JackieBlue said:

Jam & Lewis, simply because of the strength of their work and their longevity over the years.

Teddy Riley's best jams were contained mainly in the '90s. He hasn't been hitting in my opinion since Blackstreet's "No Diggity." That was his last big cut.

Rodney Jerkins is about as interchangable as these chicks that sing hooks on rap tracks. I don't see the fuss over him. His creative peak came with Brandy's
"Never Say Never" album and "The Boy Is Mine" in '98. He's not as flexible or as adventurous as Jam & Lewis or even Teddy Riley. His work on MJ's Invincible was decent. But it irks me that he has encourages the artists he works with to leave his calling card at the beginning of the tracks. You know, "YEAH, 2002, DARKCHILD." "Oohhhh, Darkchild." That's really corny, IMO.

Jam & Lewis don't have to do that. They've been jamming for over 20 years -- producing everyone from Janet to Alexander O'Neal, Cherelle, Herb Alpert, Human League, Jordan Knight, etc. --- and they're still making creative stuff (their production on Gwen Stefani's "Harajuku Girls"). They still make quality stuff when they want to and show no signs of fading.

All these people suck.

MJ needs brand new people. A miracle worker.

JANFAN4L said:

I was talking to my older sister who's probably a bigger fan than me, even though we were both raised on MJ, and she says his career is over. I was shocked to hear her say that. I told her it certainly doesn't have to be...MJ's voice is "the most often imitated musical instrument in pop music" to quote Bender magazine. I agree the Cloudy a little bit about MJ producing himself, but I think he should go back even further and start writing with Randy and Jackie. Just MHO, though...

JackieBlue said:

thesexofit said:

Yes. The dumb-ass. If you ask me, Invincible could have used a "Rock Your Body".

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An album with 75% of his own production

Creatively,Jam and Lewis are done.Their recent productions are largely uninspired,sample-heavy and just plain boring.

Rodney Jerkins' sound hasn't really evolved at all.Another year or so and he will be gone too.

Teddy Riley was the mastermind behind the late-80s "New Jack Swing" sound,but none of his recent productions have been successful.His sound is stale.


If MJ ever makes another record,he should steer clear of the usual suspects.At this point,he could make a more interesting CD by locking himself into a studio for a month with an unknown garage rock band.

But who he really needs to get with is Raphael Saadiq.

Ultimately I like when MJ produces himself. I use to wish he'd try Trevor Horn but haen't thought about that in awhile.

namepeace said:

I'd cast my vote for Madlib.

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who? U want him to adlib?

namepeace said:

that is the illest idea, namepeace!