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Thread started 11/22/04 3:49am

LoveAlive

How is Meschell Ndegeocello's "COOKIE:MIXTAPE" album?

How is this album?
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Reply #1 posted 11/22/04 3:51am

Supernova

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'Tis aiight.

But "Earth"...oh, "Earth"...sigh...sounds like she collaborated with Stevie on that arrangement.
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Reply #2 posted 11/22/04 3:55am

LoveAlive

Supernova said:

'Tis aiight.

But "Earth"...oh, "Earth"...sigh...sounds like she collaborated with Stevie on that arrangement.



what would u say is better..COOKIE or her latest CD?
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Reply #3 posted 11/22/04 4:13am

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'Tis aiight.

But "Earth"...oh, "Earth"...sigh...sounds like she collaborated with Stevie on that arrangement.

Earth and Jabril are definitely two of the finest moments on that CD worship
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Reply #4 posted 11/22/04 4:18am

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I like comfort woman more... but love Hot Night
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Reply #5 posted 11/22/04 4:22am

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chickengrease said:

Supernova said:

'Tis aiight.

But "Earth"...oh, "Earth"...sigh...sounds like she collaborated with Stevie on that arrangement.

Earth and Jabril are definitely two of the finest moments on that CD worship

I feel that there's been a disturbance in the force. confuse

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Reply #6 posted 11/22/04 4:24am

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theAudience said:

chickengrease said:


Earth and Jabril are definitely two of the finest moments on that CD worship

I feel that there's been a disturbance in the force. confuse

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peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


Huh? confuse

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Reply #7 posted 11/22/04 4:24am

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LoveAlive said:

Supernova said:

'Tis aiight.

But "Earth"...oh, "Earth"...sigh...sounds like she collaborated with Stevie on that arrangement.



what would u say is better..COOKIE or her latest CD?

Comfort Woman is better than Cookie, but I wouldn't be without either one. Forced to choose, CW is the one I'd recommend. And all her albums are worthy of your time.
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Reply #8 posted 11/22/04 5:09am

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Cookie is a great album. it has a lot of spoken word thru out and it's also very dark i found of lots lots of groove.
lots of peaks and valleys and you can also hear some Princely moments in there.
Comfort Woman has a lot of reggae influence in it. it is a very sensual album - good to make love to.
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Reply #9 posted 11/22/04 7:15am

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chickengrease said:

Earth and Jabril are definitely two of the finest moments on that CD worship


co-sign dancing jig

The album is cool and worth getting, but those too tracks are mind blowing.
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Reply #10 posted 11/22/04 7:15am

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Cookie is good for like the first 3 or so tracks, then it just falls off. Comfort Woman is very focused and concise - a great album all the way through.
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Reply #11 posted 11/22/04 7:19am

Raijuan

"You sell your soul like you sell a peice of ass..." cool
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Reply #12 posted 11/22/04 8:45am

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Some of y'all crazy eek I'd say Bitter & Cookie are MeShell's best works. Comfort Woman is currently my fave by her BUT Cookie is the jam. MANY songs on there that are simply undeniable. I highly recommend it - I slept on it for nearly a year & was MAD when I discovered how good it is nod
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Reply #13 posted 11/22/04 10:09am

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CalhounSq said:

Some of y'all crazy eek I'd say Bitter & Cookie are MeShell's best works. Comfort Woman is currently my fave by her BUT Cookie is the jam. MANY songs on there that are simply undeniable. I highly recommend it - I slept on it for nearly a year & was MAD when I discovered how good it is nod



I MUST disagree....PEACE BEYOND PASSION is her BEST CD in my opinion! That is a C L A S S I C!
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Reply #14 posted 11/22/04 11:09am

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'dead nigga blvd' & 'hot night' are great... and 'trust' drool3
still have to get 'comfort woman', i bought it for an ex-girlfriend and only got to listen to it once before we broke up confused
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Reply #15 posted 11/22/04 1:15pm

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DigitalGardin said:

CalhounSq said:

Some of y'all crazy eek I'd say Bitter & Cookie are MeShell's best works. Comfort Woman is currently my fave by her BUT Cookie is the jam. MANY songs on there that are simply undeniable. I highly recommend it - I slept on it for nearly a year & was MAD when I discovered how good it is nod



I MUST disagree....PEACE BEYOND PASSION is her BEST CD in my opinion! That is a C L A S S I C!



I'm with you all the way on that one lol

Comfort Woman is a fantastic return to form as I thought Cookie is her weakest album with only 'Earth' & 'Jabril' (as already mentioned) standing alongside anything on PBP & Comfort Woman. Musn't forget 'Bitter' either - a strong strong album.
Me'Shell is up there with D'Angelo - long may she continue to bring the top grooves & the funk
The Funk, the whole funk & nothin' but the funk, ya dig?!
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Reply #16 posted 11/22/04 4:22pm

chickengrease

DigitalGardin said:

CalhounSq said:

Some of y'all crazy eek I'd say Bitter & Cookie are MeShell's best works. Comfort Woman is currently my fave by her BUT Cookie is the jam. MANY songs on there that are simply undeniable. I highly recommend it - I slept on it for nearly a year & was MAD when I discovered how good it is nod



I MUST disagree....PEACE BEYOND PASSION is her BEST CD in my opinion! That is a C L A S S I C!


I love 'em all, but I agree that Peace Beyond Passion is the best. nod
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Reply #17 posted 11/22/04 5:37pm

dancerella

i bought this cd earlier this year and was very dissapointed. it was way too mellow for me. i'm probably not the best person to ask, as i'm not into "neo soul" but i always thought she seemed cool, so i really wanted to like it.
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Reply #18 posted 11/22/04 5:44pm

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For me...Peace Beyond Passion ranks #1, mostly because she is searching and finding throughout that whole album.

I love Cookie, and much like Calhoun2 I didn't immediately get into it and then one day it dropped on my ass like an atom bomb BAM! and I thought....why the hell did I sleep on this shit for so long? Jabril is the secret weapon nod Such a starkly dark and honest admission.

And Comfort Woman, what an intimate album. I feel like I'm in a cocoon when I listen to that CD. I love every single one of her albums. They are all strong, no weakness. I hope she shares her gift for many years. I did have the chance to thank her personally for sharing her gift of music at an in-store appearance. She signed the front of my CD booklet for Peace Beyond Passion and she addressed it to "Supa" touched

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Reply #19 posted 11/22/04 5:50pm

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A great album it is.
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Reply #20 posted 11/22/04 6:17pm

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NdegéOcello's fourth album Cookie: The Anthropological Mixtape is a mesmerizing affair. It's triptych in quality: A blazing sociopolitical critique one minute, a soulful slow burner the next, the album then turns right around and becomes a conversation piece breathing with the sensibilities of Miles Davis. The multi-layered quality of this record is amazingly assembled. She returns true to form on her long awaited follow-up to 1999's Bitter.

Created almost a year before its forthcoming release date Cookie serves as a fine wine. It's lyrical virtues and musical possibilities are inimitable and only get better with age. The incendiary "Hot Night" serves as the perfect backdrop to a long, troubling summer with a blistering rap by Talib Kweli and sound bites by Angela Davis.

Ironically, Me'Shell makes prophecies for the year to come with lines like "Suffer in the World Trade paradise with me now" - the album being created nearly four months before the attacks on America. "God.Fear.Money" is a piece that demystifies the perception of celebrity ("I was way down for the revolution, until I found it was contingent upon some corporate sponsorship / And if Jesus was alive today, he'd be incarcerated with the rest of the brothas / Devil'll have a great apartment on the Upper East Side, be a guest VJ on Total Request Live'). The lyrics on Cookie are intelligent, witty and direct.

Cookie isn't all trouble funk though, laced within is a bouquet of sensual arrangements. "I ain't gon' pay your rent, all I got is love and time to spend, can I hang with you" is the plea to true love. "Berry Farms" is a no-holds-barred narrative on a past same-sex relationship with a girl who couldn't love her openly without shame and fear ("She had the kind of kisses that made you sad) and sports one of the most surprising lyrical bridges in years. She explores the gamut of elated ecstasy. "Trust" is among the sexiest songs of her career. Temperate yet mild, it simmers with anticipatory nectar ("Put your tongue in my mouth, make me wet, run your hands down my back, grab my a**"). "Earth" is truly transcending, it floats above one's consciousness with the ubiquity of Roy Ayers.

It also marks a return to the bass playing ferocity that made her first two records Plantation Lullabies and Peace Beyond Passion instant classics and influential sample-templates (just ask Brian McKnight).

"Pleasure is the motivation," comments NdeGéOcello on "Better By The Pound" and indeed, the album is just that. With backing by such luminaries as Gil Scott Heron, Lalah Hathaway and Caron Wheeler, it's a sure thing. It is an album that will stay with you long after everything that currently sits on Billboard fades; Cookie only ripens and glows with time. All embracing, all encompassing, Cookie: The Anthropological Mixtape is NdegéOcello in her element. Easily garnering cult status, she taps into the life of a moment and in turn crafts one of the strongest, most emotive and complex albums of a generation.
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Reply #21 posted 11/22/04 8:34pm

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dancerella said:

i bought this cd earlier this year and was very dissapointed. it was way too mellow for me. i'm probably not the best person to ask, as i'm not into "neo soul" but i always thought she seemed cool, so i really wanted to like it.

Good Lord, I can't see Meshell within any neo-soul confinement. It's sorta like calling Chic a disco band. Neither represent it, both trandscend it. They just happened to be making Soul and dance music while the categories gained prominence.
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Reply #22 posted 11/22/04 8:42pm

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i love all of them (though i haven't heard comfort woman yet... she hasn't come up in the rotation since before that came out), but Peace Beyond Passion and Bitter are my favorites.
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Reply #23 posted 11/22/04 9:21pm

dancerella

Supernova said:

dancerella said:

i bought this cd earlier this year and was very dissapointed. it was way too mellow for me. i'm probably not the best person to ask, as i'm not into "neo soul" but i always thought she seemed cool, so i really wanted to like it.

Good Lord, I can't see Meshell within any neo-soul confinement. It's sorta like calling Chic a disco band. Neither represent it, both trandscend it. They just happened to be making Soul and dance music while the categories gained prominence.




you know, i had a feeling i'd get some flack for refering to her as neo soul, i wasn't sure how else to phrase it but any how i couldn't get into it. not my cuppa.
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Reply #24 posted 11/22/04 9:29pm

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dancerella said:

Supernova said:


Good Lord, I can't see Meshell within any neo-soul confinement. It's sorta like calling Chic a disco band. Neither represent it, both trandscend it. They just happened to be making Soul and dance music while the categories gained prominence.




you know, i had a feeling i'd get some flack for refering to her as neo soul, i wasn't sure how else to phrase it but any how i couldn't get into it. not my cuppa.

lol Didn't mean to give ya flack. Let's just say I think Meshell hits home runs and most of those under the neo soul banner don't. But at the same time, it's not one of my favorite albums by her either. Doesn't have the consistency...
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Reply #25 posted 11/22/04 9:44pm

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I can't even begin to explain how much of a hero this woman is to me. From the get-go, her albums have been full of deep political and spiritual musings. They have been infused with the glory of love and the tragedy of pain. Lyrically each of her albums stimulate so much more than the sense of sound. The fact that she is out as a gay woman makes me respect her even more. The music world could use more artists like her that challenge not only their listeners but themselves. Thank you God for Me'Shell N'Degeocello worship
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Reply #26 posted 11/23/04 4:06am

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I knew everyone would rush in & call me crazy but that's cool lol Peace Beyond Passion is my least fave MeShell album boxed
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Reply #27 posted 11/23/04 6:08am

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Where's namepeace, he needs to chime in on this thread, he always has some good things to say and MeShell is his girl. nod

((I only have Plantation Lullabies and Comfort Woman--I still need to listen to Cookie, Bitter and the rest))
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Reply #28 posted 11/23/04 4:53pm

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CalhounSq said:

I knew everyone would rush in & call me crazy but that's cool lol Peace Beyond Passion is my least fave MeShell album boxed

If I didn't love you to death this is what that comment would have garnered chair

I'll just save that for Bush and Co. mr.green
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Reply #29 posted 11/23/04 7:14pm

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CalhounSq said:

I knew everyone would rush in & call me crazy but that's cool lol Peace Beyond Passion is my least fave MeShell album boxed



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