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Thread started 11/18/04 1:06am

theAudience

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I had a dream that Fantasia...

...appeared on the Jay Leno Show last night.

She was actually singing a real song with verses, and it had a melody.
When I say a real song, you know, one where there's no guest rapper that comes out of nowhere.
(cough...cough...Ashanti/Ja Rule...cough...cough)
There's was no guide vocal track and the musicians were really playing.

What was that? Oh, it really happened?

Mary J. had better check up.
This sister's got soul and understands the "p" word. (pitch)

woot!

Lord, please keep this woman supplied with good material pray


tA

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Reply #1 posted 11/18/04 1:34am

VANITYSprisonB
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theAudience said:

...appeared on the Jay Leno Show last night.

She was actually singing a real song with verses, and it had a melody.
When I say a real song, you know, one where there's no guest rapper that comes out of nowhere.
(cough...cough...Ashanti/Ja Rule...cough...cough)
There's was no guide vocal track and the musicians were really playing.

What was that? Oh, it really happened?

Mary J. had better check up.
This sister's got soul and understands the "p" word. (pitch)

woot!

Lord, please keep this woman supplied with good material pray


tA

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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


I dont know if you were being funny but ....I love the new song that the radio is playing....She may not be a Ballad-Torch-Singing siren like Kelly but she is proving to be a true vocalist which I had no doubt about.


I dont see her selling the millions that Clay and Kelly have sold but I see her as a solid artist and those that buy her albums are those whose desire is to hear real music at it's best. I can't imagine her recording anything without a studio band.

Go on Fantasia!
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Reply #2 posted 11/18/04 5:31am

VoicesCarry

Her voice doesn't really do it for me but I think she's definitely a very talented singer who'll go far. Hooray for talent!
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Reply #3 posted 11/18/04 5:34am

CinisterCee

mad who you callin' a pitch!
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Reply #4 posted 11/18/04 7:42am

theAudience

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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said:

I dont know if you were being funny but ....I love the new song that the radio is playing....She may not be a Ballad-Torch-Singing siren like Kelly but she is proving to be a true vocalist which I had no doubt about.


I dont see her selling the millions that Clay and Kelly have sold but I see her as a solid artist and those that buy her albums are those whose desire is to hear real music at it's best. I can't imagine her recording anything without a studio band.

Go on Fantasia!

The weak comedic tone was done to really compliment Fantasia.
I just hope she gets a competent team around her that doesn't try to turn her into something she isn't.

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Reply #5 posted 11/19/04 6:55am

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theAudience said:

VANITYSprisonBYTCH said:

I dont know if you were being funny but ....I love the new song that the radio is playing....She may not be a Ballad-Torch-Singing siren like Kelly but she is proving to be a true vocalist which I had no doubt about.


I dont see her selling the millions that Clay and Kelly have sold but I see her as a solid artist and those that buy her albums are those whose desire is to hear real music at it's best. I can't imagine her recording anything without a studio band.

Go on Fantasia!

The weak comedic tone was done to really compliment Fantasia.
I just hope she gets a competent team around her that doesn't try to turn her into something she isn't.

tA

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Reply #6 posted 11/19/04 8:22am

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theAudience said:

Lord, please keep this woman supplied with good material pray


tA


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Reply #7 posted 11/20/04 8:43pm

ThreadBare

Fantasia gave me the eye in Wal-Mart. I gave it right on back. wink

Haven't been a huge fan of her music, but I've enjoyed her performances from Leno and the AMA's.

She has "it."
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Reply #8 posted 11/20/04 8:58pm

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ThreadBare said:

Fantasia gave me the eye in Wal-Mart. I gave it right on back. wink

Haven't been a huge fan of her music, but I've enjoyed her performances from Leno and the AMA's.

She has "it."


eek

So you've got Fantasia and Kimberley Locke in the same town?
(What the hell is wrong with my brother?) disbelief

You lucky dog you. lol

tA

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Reply #9 posted 11/20/04 9:13pm

VoicesCarry

The AMG Review - ***

"Love you Clive Davis, thanks for being so gangsta!" So says Fantasia Barrino — now simply billed as "Fantasia," since divas are, by law, not allowed to have more than one name — in the liner notes for her 2004 debut album, Free Yourself. This indicates both Barrino's relative naivete and the nature of Free Yourself itself. Fantasia was the winner of the third American Idiol competition in 2004, and while Clive Davis has sheperded all of the previous AmIdol winners and runner-ups, it's possible that Barrino had spent so little time in the music biz that she didn't grasp the depths of either Davis' legacy or his savviness, the latter of which was clearly on display on each AmIdol record. Under Davis' direction, Kelly Clarkson, Justin Guarini, Ruben Studdard and Clay Aiken all made records tailored for a specific audience, which is the reason they all had great success (well, with one notable exception), so it should come as no surprise that Davis has steered Barrino straight to the streets to make an album that thrives on urban R&B inflections and style. Free Yourself is looser and hipper than any previous AmIdol album. Gone is Matthew Wilder, who contributed to Kelly's debut; gone are Neil Sedaka and Aldo Nova, who featured heavily on Clay's album. In their place are Missy Elliott, Jermaine Dupri and Rodney Jerkins, hip-hop hitmakers that give a good indication that this album is striving to seem fresh and hip, something that no other American Idol album has even attempted. Of course, the showbiz trappings haven't been completely abandoned — Fantasia's show-stopping rendition of Gershwin's "Summertime" has been revived and it's been given an overwraught treatment that's slicker and more mannered than either of her performances of it on the show. And that reveals Fantasia's biggest weakness, which is part of the inherent flaw of American Idol: it rewards contestants that put on a show of being a great singer instead of actually being a great singer. Of all the third season contestants, Barrino trumped all her competitors in terms of sheer dramatics and histrionics, and that made her more memorable than equally talented singers, such as La Toya London. While Fantasia's Macy Grey-meets-Mary J Blige and goes Broadway voice may have made for great television, where it sounded unique when delivered in two-to-three minute bursts, it grates over the course of a 13-track record. There's no doubt that she has chops but the problem is her thin timbre, which is an acquired taste. To doubters, she seems to squwack her songs as much as sing them, but to her fans, it's all part of her idiosyncratic styles. That argument was easier to accept on when she was only on TV, but like all AmIdol winners, she is less impressive on record than she is on the show. Fantasia is a compelling presence on television, and she has more charisma on record than any of her peers, but without the visuals, her vocals seem mannered and overly histronic, which may suit her diva-in-waiting persona but doesn't necessarily make her a diva. Unfortunately, Free Yourself decides to play up that diva fantasy, mythologizing her downtrodden begginings and status as a "Baby Mama," and throwing in several tracks that swagger as if she was already a rival to Mariah. This gives the enterprise a slightly distasteful undercurrent, but the album is well-crafted, rarely sounding like a rush job — only the covers of "Summertime" and "You Were Always on My Mind" sound chintzy and Fantasia never sounds winded the way Ruben did on his record (however, it is inexcusible that the songs don't match the printed track listing on the initial pressings) — and it gets by on its sound and style, both from the producers and Fantasia herself. If it delivers no knock-out punches, at least it maintains the mood and groove from beginning to end, and is considerably more fashionable than anything American Idol has yet to produce.
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Reply #10 posted 11/20/04 9:29pm

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I hope she continues to get good material too. She can really sing. I don't even mind the "yea yea yea yea yea" in errrrry song lol thumbs up!
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Reply #11 posted 11/20/04 10:12pm

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I like her as a performer but not sure about the songs and the way they sound on record as compared to her live performing. I like Kelly Clarkson's voice too but I woudn't rush out to get that album either. I wish them both success though, as real winners trying to make a career for themseleves. It would be nice if they wrote and had more input on their albums as well and didn't leave it all up to Clive (I think Kelly's album might have song writing contributions from her).
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Reply #12 posted 11/20/04 10:20pm

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VinnyM27 said:

I like her as a performer but not sure about the songs and the way they sound on record as compared to her live performing. I like Kelly Clarkson's voice too but I woudn't rush out to get that album either. I wish them both success though, as real winners trying to make a career for themseleves. It would be nice if they wrote and had more input on their albums as well and didn't leave it all up to Clive (I think Kelly's album might have song writing contributions from her).


Who's Hiiiiigh Pitch? This is Kelly Clarkkkkkssssson...









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Reply #13 posted 11/20/04 10:59pm

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CalhounSq said:

VinnyM27 said:

I like her as a performer but not sure about the songs and the way they sound on record as compared to her live performing. I like Kelly Clarkson's voice too but I woudn't rush out to get that album either. I wish them both success though, as real winners trying to make a career for themseleves. It would be nice if they wrote and had more input on their albums as well and didn't leave it all up to Clive (I think Kelly's album might have song writing contributions from her).


Who's Hiiiiigh Pitch? This is Kelly Clarkkkkkssssson...









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I think that's why I like her now.
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Reply #14 posted 11/20/04 11:35pm

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Hopefully her album wont be a R&B lush landfill, cuz I LUB'S ME'S SUM's FANTASIA's!!!!!
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Reply #15 posted 11/21/04 11:17am

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why isnt fantasia's record not getting any play in texas?i see a lack in promotion also with ruben's new song BUT....i loved fantasia's cd single and im waiting 4 tuesday 2 come so i can buy it
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Reply #16 posted 11/21/04 7:46pm

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VoicesCarry said:

The AMG Review - ***

"Love you Clive Davis, thanks for being so gangsta!" So says Fantasia Barrino — now simply billed as "Fantasia," since divas are, by law, not allowed to have more than one name — in the liner notes for her 2004 debut album, Free Yourself. This indicates both Barrino's relative naivete and the nature of Free Yourself itself. Fantasia was the winner of the third American Idiol competition in 2004, and while Clive Davis has sheperded all of the previous AmIdol winners and runner-ups, it's possible that Barrino had spent so little time in the music biz that she didn't grasp the depths of either Davis' legacy or his savviness, the latter of which was clearly on display on each AmIdol record. Under Davis' direction, Kelly Clarkson, Justin Guarini, Ruben Studdard and Clay Aiken all made records tailored for a specific audience, which is the reason they all had great success (well, with one notable exception), so it should come as no surprise that Davis has steered Barrino straight to the streets to make an album that thrives on urban R&B inflections and style. Free Yourself is looser and hipper than any previous AmIdol album. Gone is Matthew Wilder, who contributed to Kelly's debut; gone are Neil Sedaka and Aldo Nova, who featured heavily on Clay's album. In their place are Missy Elliott, Jermaine Dupri and Rodney Jerkins, hip-hop hitmakers that give a good indication that this album is striving to seem fresh and hip, something that no other American Idol album has even attempted. Of course, the showbiz trappings haven't been completely abandoned — Fantasia's show-stopping rendition of Gershwin's "Summertime" has been revived and it's been given an overwraught treatment that's slicker and more mannered than either of her performances of it on the show. And that reveals Fantasia's biggest weakness, which is part of the inherent flaw of American Idol: it rewards contestants that put on a show of being a great singer instead of actually being a great singer. Of all the third season contestants, Barrino trumped all her competitors in terms of sheer dramatics and histrionics, and that made her more memorable than equally talented singers, such as La Toya London. While Fantasia's Macy Grey-meets-Mary J Blige and goes Broadway voice may have made for great television, where it sounded unique when delivered in two-to-three minute bursts, it grates over the course of a 13-track record. There's no doubt that she has chops but the problem is her thin timbre, which is an acquired taste. To doubters, she seems to squwack her songs as much as sing them, but to her fans, it's all part of her idiosyncratic styles. That argument was easier to accept on when she was only on TV, but like all AmIdol winners, she is less impressive on record than she is on the show. Fantasia is a compelling presence on television, and she has more charisma on record than any of her peers, but without the visuals, her vocals seem mannered and overly histronic, which may suit her diva-in-waiting persona but doesn't necessarily make her a diva. Unfortunately, Free Yourself decides to play up that diva fantasy, mythologizing her downtrodden begginings and status as a "Baby Mama," and throwing in several tracks that swagger as if she was already a rival to Mariah. This gives the enterprise a slightly distasteful undercurrent, but the album is well-crafted, rarely sounding like a rush job — only the covers of "Summertime" and "You Were Always on My Mind" sound chintzy and Fantasia never sounds winded the way Ruben did on his record (however, it is inexcusible that the songs don't match the printed track listing on the initial pressings) — and it gets by on its sound and style, both from the producers and Fantasia herself. If it delivers no knock-out punches, at least it maintains the mood and groove from beginning to end, and is considerably more fashionable than anything American Idol has yet to produce.


Good read.
At least the writer didn't indicate that there were any "guest rappers" on it. confused
Maybe she'll learn to relax over time. I'd really like to see her succeed.

tA

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Reply #17 posted 11/21/04 7:53pm

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Out the AI winners so far, and the second placers and other participants, I hope she has the most success. I heard that Latoya London is getting a deal as well, which is richly deserved.
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Reply #18 posted 11/21/04 10:25pm

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...appeared on the Jay Leno Show last night.

She was actually singing a real song with verses, and it had a melody.
When I say a real song, you know, one where there's no guest rapper that comes out of nowhere.
(cough...cough...Ashanti/Ja Rule...cough...cough)
There's was no guide vocal track and the musicians were really playing.

What was that? Oh, it really happened?

Mary J. had better check up.
This sister's got soul and understands the "p" word. (pitch)

woot!

Lord, please keep this woman supplied with good material pray


tA

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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm



i was pleasantly surprised by her performance at the ama's i don't know if she did the same song you heard but it was live and she had back up singers. her performance stood out from the lackluster bs.
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Reply #19 posted 11/22/04 7:03am

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UncleGrandpa said:

Out the AI winners so far, and the second placers and other participants, I hope she has the most success. I heard that Latoya London is getting a deal as well, which is richly deserved.



yeah latoya signed with an independent label check out billboard.com they have the whole story
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