By Dr. K. C. Arceneaux
November 13, 2004

The release of redacted documents, on November 12, 2004, that are among the evidence in the child molestation case against Michael Jackson could collapse the case, or at the very least, cast serious doubt on the conspiracy charges against him. The documents include correspondence between then Jackson attorney Mark Geragos and William Dickerman, attorney for "Jane Doe," the mother of Jackson's accuser. The letters were sent immediately following the period during which Ms. Doe said she was imprisoned by Jackson employees and was fearful for her life. However, the letters are very mundane, if combative, and concern the return of household belongings. There is no mention of events remotely resembling the accusations made in the Grand Jury indictment.

The letters reveal a prolonged and acrimonious exchange between the attorneys, beginning on March 26 and ending on May 17, 2003. The letters concern return of items that had been removed from Ms. Doe's home and placed in storage. In the letters, there is squabbling about when and where to deliver the belongings, and concern about who would make payments on a storage facility. And yet, this exchange occurs immediately after the period that Ms. Doe claims she and her children were falsely imprisoned by Jackson's staff. The question here is simple. If Ms. Doe thought she and her children had been imprisoned and her life threatened, as she later claimed, why did she not tell Dickerman, her attorney? Kidnapping is a much more serious issue than who will pay for the storage of furniture.

Ms. Doe's accusations against Jackson are similar to charges she made against her now-ex husband in a divorce dispute. About the Jackson case, Ms. Doe said in a police interview leaked to the media in September, 2004, that she felt that "Somebody was going to kill the kids and me. Mostly the kids." In the divorce dispute, she accused her husband of molesting their daughter, kidnapping, and threatening her life. In judge's chambers, the daughter recanted statements she had made earlier, and said that the father did not make death threats. Russell Halpern, attorney for the boy's father, said that he believes the mother scripted her children. Halpern said the father once showed him a script his wife had allegedly written for their children to use when they were questioned in a civil deposition. "She wrote out all their testimony. I actually saw the script. I remember my client showing me, bringing the paperwork to me."

The charges against Michael Jackson are not the first time Ms.Doe has leveled charges of sexual abuse against someone. It is the third. In addition to the charges made against her husband, Ms. Doe also accused security guards of sexually abusing her by fondling her breasts and crotch in a parking lot. The guards had followed her son and husband from the store and accused them of shoplifting. The boy reportedly was carrying a stack of unpaid-for clothing. Ms. Doe alleged that the abuse went on for seven minutes, as her family apparently looked on helplessly. As in the Jackson case, there was a memory delay before accusations were made. Ms. Doe remembered two years after the parking lot incident that she had been (allegedly) sexually abused; these accusations were added to her three million dollar civil case against J.C. Penney.

Tom Griffen, Penney's attorney, said in an interview by Mike Taibbi on the Abrams Report, March 4, 2004,"It became readily apparent that this was an incident, in my opinion, a scam to extract money from J. C. Penney." The case was settled out of court, for a reported $137,000. According to Griffen, the settlement was to avoid the risk of losing in a jury trial. One also assumes that the negative publicity would not have been desirable for the company. The psychiatrist retained by Penney to examine Ms. Doe said that he felt she scripted her children's stories to match hers.

Veracity seems to be a serious problem with this family. In the first indictment Jackson was charged with seven counts of child molestation. In the second indictment, by a grand jury presided over by Santa Barbara prosecutor Tom Sneddon, the instances of molestation had declined from seven to three, with one alleged molestation attempt. Where did the other three molestations go? Did the boy in question, now a mature teenager, testify to seven instances of molestation and then remember that three of them did not happen? Or, now that he is older and wiser, is he less cooperative? Inexplicably, the grand jury indictment added charges not present in the first indictment. Jackson now has been accused of conspiracy to commit twenty-eight felony acts, including conspiring to commit child abduction; false imprisonment; extortion; committing lewd acts upon a child; attempting to commit a lewd act; and administering an intoxicating agent to a child.

The timeframe of the alleged molestations has changed, as well. In the first indictment, the dates were given as from February 7, 2003, to March 10, 2003. These dates were changed in the grand jury indictment, from February 20 to March 12. In a pre-trial hearing on November 8, 2004, Jackson attorney Susan Yu said, "The chronologies are critical to the defense because the dates of the alleged molestations in the original complaint (in December) are different from the dates in the indictment (in April)." Yu said, "These dates are different because the (accuser's) family changed their story. They changed their story because they are not telling the truth."

Author: K. C. Arceneaux, Ph.D., is a Pushcart nominee and winner of a Tara Fellowship from the Heekin Group. First North American Serial Rights, Copyright November 13, 2004.

http://www.mjredemption.c...rchive.htm
[Edited 11/15/04 21:47pm]

call me crazy but something tells me we won't be hearing about this on cnn or the local nightly news.

it wouldn't be nearly as sensational as a conviction.

It doesn't make for exciting news so I doubt many people are interested. It seems there's a lot of folk that just want him to be guilty. Which is pretty sick in itself.

Hopefully, more people will read this article since it does a good job of summarizing a few of the key points in this "case" thus far.

Michael Jackson is Innocent.

Cloudbuster said:

I'm still not convinced he's all that innocent,I would like to believe so..but...
Maybe this is a topic I shouldn't reply on,correct me if I'm wrong...
Other thread,maybe..

jkj10 said:

Well to put it politely its not really your call
But i understand, alot of people wan't him to be guilty
afterall he is a "Freakish Creature"
and if your one of those its best to stay away from these threads
expecially if he isn't convicted

To these documents?
hell who knows
I doubt the case will be thrown out
But even MJ skeptics Considered that Conspiracy charge Really Weird
from the info i've heard the Prosecutions case is collapsing
First, The forensic evidence turned up negative
and now this,
Bad bad bad bad bad
Sneddon most be counting on the childs testimony to win the case
otherwise
its just falling apart

This whole thing is annoying and a waist of Mj's time. For all wankers in the world please "Leave Him Alone".

I hope nobody comments on this thread without reading ALL the first post AND taking it on board.

similar things about the mother have come out over the last year. didn't change anything before, won't change it now.

It's a fuckin shame that none of this information is being reported on news networks. Whether they believe he's guilty or innocent shouldn't matter, their job is to report news. Fair and Balanced my ass.

Thriller81 said:

Exactly. Michael may or may not be guilty. I, of course, don't know for sure, but I hope he's innocent.

You're right though. This won't make it most news sources. Regardless of whatever the truth might be, the public wants Michael to be guilty. And in his business, you essentially are whatever the public says you are. Even if he's found not guilty, he will be anyways in the eyes of Joe and Jane Public.

meow85 said:

Joe and Jane Public will be sitting in those juror seats. That's the scary thing.

Very Scarey indeed
For a man who's been called wacko jacko for nearly a decade
its a very interesting case
One to go in the history books
Does Public Image overshadow the judicial system?

I think people will be in for the shock of a lifetime once this "case" goes to trial. Many people don't know the details about this case including the fact that MJ was no where near this family during the alleged time of "abuse".

It's amazing that it's come this far.

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[Edited 11/17/04 18:25pm]

amit1234 said:

it really isnt amazing i expected it
its a second offence,
this needed to happen sooner or later,

Might mend a tarnished image

The mainstream media didn't report the revelations of the Raymond Chandler's book either "All That Glitters: The Crime and the Cover-up" =>
Jordie told his mother that after she and Kelly had fallen asleep, Michael asked him if he had seen 'The Exorcist,'" writes Chandler. "When he said no, Michael played it for him. The movie frightened him and he did not want to go back to his room alone, so Michael suggested he stay with him." http://www.atgbook.net/
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[Edited 11/17/04 23:00pm]

A year or or so ago,I heard some crazy stories about the accuser and his mother.Apparently,they once pulled a scam at a JCPenney's store where they sued for a huge amount of money,claiming that they were beaten by the security guards.Even the boy's father admitted that the mother forced the son to lie,just so they could get the money.Does anyone recall this story? I wonder if it will come up in the trial? Their credibility may be a big focus of this case.

I'm sure that the accuser's credibility will be thoroughly attacked by the defense. I've tried to have an open mind about this, and see things from both points of view. For a while there, I was beginning to think he may actually be guilty, but more and more I'm thinking not. Sure, Jackos a freak, but that doesn't make him a pedophile. If anything, it makes him an easy target.

DavidEye - I believe this is the article you're referring to?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4448227/

Is The Michael Jackson Molestation Case A Shakedown?

Attorney from shoplifting case 6-years-ago says family is trying to scam King of Pop for money

Updated: 1:39 p.m. ET March 4, 2004

New questions are emerging about the family of the boy accusing Michael Jackson of molestation. Are they money hungry? NBC News has obtained documents that critics say raise some serious red flags. NBC news correspondent Mike Taibbi reports.

It was a simple case of alleged shoplifting at a J.C. Penny's store, followed by a brief scuffle, in August of 1998 except that it involved the family of the boy who 5 years later would accuse pop star Michael Jackson of molesting him.

In this case, though the shoplifting charges were dropped, the boy, his brother and mother accused security guards of viciously beating them without provocation.

“It became readily apparent that this was an incident, in my opinion, a scam, to extract money from J.C. Penny," says attorney Tom Griffin.

Griffin represented Penny's, which ultimately paid a $137,500 settlement to the family days before the scheduled trial in 2001. The family had sued for $3 million.

"If it was a cooked-up scam… why pay anything? The worst case scenario is that a jury's going to believe what she said and that they're going to tee off on you," says Griffin.

The public record of the case only briefly describes the stories told by the opposing sides. J.C. Penny's claims that the boy was sent out of the store by his father with an armful of shoplifted clothes and that the whole family was quickly detained with the mother starting that brief scuffle.

The family claims that both boys were modeling clothes for J.C. Penny's, not stealing them and that they'd all been brutally beaten by store security guards for no reason.

But NBC news has obtained more than 100 pages of documents not in the public record, including defense deposition excerpts and psychiatric reports and the documents give a far more detailed version of J.C. Penny's case.

The psychiatrist hired by Penny's found the mother to be schizophrenic, delusional and severely depressed, "sad over being a nobody," she'd said, "a sad housewife getting fat."

Her own therapist found her to be anxious and depressed after the incident, but not delusional.

Penny's says that more than 2 years after the incident the mother added on the charge that one security guard had also sexually fondled her breasts and pelvic area for up to 7 minutes.

The Penny's psychiatrist says she "rehearsed" her two sons to back up her "farfetched" story -- in what "sounded like scripted copies of (her) testimony" -- that they and she had all suffered broken bones, in addition to her sexual assault. Penny's insists there was no evidence to back up any of the allegations.

Griffin says, "She just came up with this fairy tale, not a fairy tale, a horror story, and ran with it."

Because of the gag order in the Michael Jackson molestation case none of the principals in that case would comment for this story. Two people who remain close to the family did tell NBC News they still absolutely believe the family's story of what happened at Neverland.

Some might wonder what a 6-year-old shoplifting case has to do with the molestation charges against Michael Jackson: Griffin, J.C. Penny's lawyer, says that based on his experience with the family he can guess about a possible connection.

“They're going for a home run this time, this is a shakedown, shakedown, part 2."

Well, how reliable is that article itself?

Novabreaker said:

Which article?
the shoplifting thing?
its reliable it was disbuted last year
The Accusers Father mentioned it to Jacksons Lawyers and they dug it up
launched to the media


in2 you know i bought the book
"All that glitters", bought it used of course, but the curiosity exceded me
theirs absolutely nothing in thier
Speculation purely
its not graphic like "Michael Jackson was my lover"
in fact it even denounces michael jackson was my lover
but its nothing
the kid was caught in the traps of money
it even points the finger at the father
you can tell is was written purely to extract monetary sums
not to reveal any lost truths
lol
im glad i bought it used lol

what i wanna know is why doesn't Jordy come out and support the current Accuser
he's got nothing to be afraid of he's all grown up now
if i was molested i'd want the bastard to go down
doesn't anybody else agree?

Luv4OneAnother - I completely agree.

Luv4oneanotha said:

If you were molested you probably wouldn't have a choice!

BinaryJustin said:

with teh action ive been getting these days
i'd probably enjoy it

JediMaster said:

Of course he could be guilty. But he's just as likely not to be. The fact that he's a bit freaky and (more than likely) has mental and emotional problems does make him an easy target.

amit1234 said:

Yes,that's the story I was talking about.Thanks for posting it

Hey DavidEye - No problem!

Here's another article you might be interested in...

http://www.theaustralian....02,00.html

Jackson Accuser Family Seeks Cash

From correspondents in Los Angeles
May 27, 2004

THE family of Michael Jackson's alleged molestation victim is suing child welfare officials seeking financial damages over a leak in the case, lawyers said today.

The action is the first time the family of the boy, now believed to be 14, has sought financial compensation in the Jackson case, raising fresh speculation over whether cash could be a motivating factor in the affair.

The family filed a lawsuit against the Los Angeles Department of Children and Family Services over the leaking of a confidential memo that said a departmental investigation had found there was no evidence to suggest Jackson had sexually assaulted the boy.

Larry Feldman, the lawyer who filed the suit on behalf of the youngster's family, which Jackson has accused of attempting to extort money from him, said it sought monetary sanctions for the DCFS's alleged violation of the family's privacy.

The memo stated that Los Angeles police and child welfare officials concluded in the probe that was carried out last year before charges were laid against him in Santa Barbara that the child sexual abuse allegations against Jackson were "unfounded".

The family claims in its suit that it seeks financial damages from the department because officials did not have the "human decency to apologise for violating their privacy".

DCFS officials said they were "aggressively" pursuing an investigation into how the document was leaked.

But Dana Cole, a lawyer who has worked with Jackson's defence team, said the lawsuit was suspect.

"I think there is an inconsistency here," he told AFP.

"All along, the family has emphasised that this was not about money and now they are saying they want money.

"This may lead to the conclusion that there might be a financial motive behind this," he claimed.

Jackson has pleaded not guilty to 10 charges in a sealed indictment handed down against him last month.

The charges include conspiracy with 28 overt acts involving child abduction, false imprisonment, extortion, committing lewd acts upon a child, attempting to commit a lewd act, and administering an intoxicating agent to a child.

A hearing in the case is due to take place in Santa Maria on Friday. Jackson is not expected to attend.

The prosecution today denied claims by one of Jackson's lawyers that it had dragged its feet in handing over huge amounts of witness statements, police reports, tapes, photographs and other materials in the complex case against the "King of Pop".

Prosecutors rejected claims made in court documents yesterday that their slowness to respond to official demands for disclosure of material in the case was inexcusable.

"To date the People have provided the defendant (Jackson) with over 1000 pages of sheriff's reports, including documentary evidence and over 50 audio tapes," prosecutors wrote in their own filing.

They said that while there may be a time lag in handing over the documents, prosecutors "promptly contacted the defence to assure them that the People are complying" with letters demanding disclosure.

"The People take their obligations ... very seriously and are in full compliance with the rules. The defendant's motion is premature and disregards the obligation of the defence to endeavour to resolve discovery issues informally."
[Edited 11/19/04 9:01am]

not to promote Mj's innocence, cause i do believe thiers a possibility he might be guilty
But this case is just weird...
just like 93's investigation was wierd to the extreme
this one takes the cake though
so many co-conspirers
different places
sounds like the script for a bad movie

in speaking of movies

Anybody gonna see Finding Neverland? lol