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Fight Breaks Out During Vibe Awards Taping SANTA MONICA, Calif. (Nov. 16) - A fight broke out near the stage at the Vibe awards ceremony as rapper Snoop Dogg and producer Quincy Jones were preparing to honor Dr. Dre., and one person was stabbed, authorities and witnesses said. An audience member holds up a chair shortly after a fight broke out in the audience at the Second Annual Vibe Awards. Dozens of people sitting near the stage Monday inside a hangar at the Santa Monica Municipal Airport began shoving each other as the show wound down about 7:30 p.m., a photographer who covered the event for The Associated Press said. News video showed chairs being thrown, punches flying, people chasing one another and some being restrained. It was unclear if the stabbing preceded or followed the fight. The victim, a 26-year-old man, was taken to a hospital and was listed in stable condition. No arrests were made. Witness Frank Williams told KCAL-TV that Dr. Dre was involved in the brawl. "I saw Dr. Dre fighting somebody," Williams said. "I don't know if he was fighting back. But there was a guy taken out basically bloodied." Andrea Ferguson, employed by a public relations firm that worked with Vibe for the awards ceremony, called the incident a "disruption" but declined to provide details. She added the show was allowed to continue but it was halted for about five minutes. Dr. Dre, who was scheduled to receive a Vibe Legend Award for his lifetime contributions to hip-hop, had not come on stage yet when the fight erupted. Jones and Snoop Dogg stood on stage without saying anything. "My understanding is that it was somewhat chaotic in there," police Lt. Frank Fabrega said in a press conference following the fight. About 1,000 people attended the event; some scurried for the exits when the melee began. "It's really important that we don't take a negative incident like this and do away with the awards," Suge Knight told reporters. The show was taped Monday and was expected to be broadcast Tuesday. R&B singer Usher led the awards with five nominations, followed by Alicia Keys, who has four nominations. Vibe magazine focuses on urban culture and entertainment. The awards are voted on by music journalists and "regional tastemakers." 11/16/04 02:47 EST  &  | |
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Is anyone really surprised??  This shit is becoming the norm at these type of award shows. | |
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kisscamille said: Is anyone really surprised??
This shit is becoming the norm at these type of award shows. It is and I think the little individual Award shows like these should be cancelled. It's embarassing. & | |
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CherrieMoonKisses said: kisscamille said: Is anyone really surprised??
This shit is becoming the norm at these type of award shows. It is and I think the little individual Award shows like these should be cancelled. It's embarassing.Agreed! If I were a part of the hip/hop/rap music community I would be very embarrassed. How do they get knives/weapons into these events anyway? Is it just a normal thing to be packing a weapon when you attend an awards show? Can't they leave their weapons at home just once!! | |
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kisscamille said: CherrieMoonKisses said: It is and I think the little individual Award shows like these should be cancelled. It's embarassing.Agreed! If I were a part of the hip/hop/rap music community I would be very embarrassed. How do they get knives/weapons into these events anyway? Is it just a normal thing to be packing a weapon when you attend an awards show? Can't they leave their weapons at home just once!! It seems like the majority of these award show fights are over on the West coast. & | |
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GHETTO FANTABULOUS!!!! I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Alright. Lets clear up a couple of things. I KNEW that's what this thread was going to be about when I clicked on it.
Fights happen at other awards shows. You don't hear about them because the negative publicity would hurt attendance. A "publicisized" fight at the Grammys would make it seem unsafe and thereby hurting chances of participants. Rest assured, you won't hear about a Grammy fight (unless it involves celebs) because there is an understanding that the media has with large scale events like that. Bad publicity equals NO ACCESS. It just so happens that black folk in general don't share the fear of violence that others do. We don't welcome it, but its nothing shocking. Secondly - security. There just isn't enough of it. Event planners work with the budget of the event to work things out as best as they can. Unfortunately, they ALWAYS underestimate the amount of secutiry needed. They should be more thorough. Blame the shows for not hiring enough help to handle situations like that. Thirdly, the press/media/etc. is ALWAYS looking for a reason to bad mouth hip-hop. It has become commonplace in media to highlight every negative thing that goes on at any "urban" oriented event. Its just another day at the office for them. Demonizing all that's black is status quo when it comes to events. You can't fault the industry for having the events. They are as EQUALLY relevant as the Grammys and others. Hip hop is whats paying the industry's bills. A lot of hip hop artists would much rather get recognition from the Vibe Awards or the Source Awards than get a Grammy - because the Grammys represent all that is pop in the eyes of the hip hop community. Vibe & Source focus on hip hop. Artists are pitted against each other without Velevt Revolver, Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson murking up the mix. To them it is more of a status of accomplishment as a hip hop artist. Going pop is often viewed as the beginning of the end for a hip hop artist careerwise. Its easy to play armchair critic when it comes to these events, but actually pulling it off is much harder of a task that what is being credited. They have a host of negative media and a stigma to deal with as well as all the security and organizational necessities with a fraction of the budget. Or "trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents" as some would say. Props to them for pulling it off another year. Its an uphill battle, but eventually they will level out. | |
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First off, this is not a "little individual award show". This was the Vibe awards, backed by the legendary Quincy Jones. By no means does he represent the ignorant foolishness that took place last night. What you are seeing here is the actions of one jealous individual who felt the need to embarrass Dr. Dre during his moment to shine. This jackass took it upon himself to punch Dre in the face just as he was about to go onstage to receive his award. This is when the maylay began. It personally pains me to wake up and see repeatedly on the morning news the images of this bullshit. Because it fuels the thinking similar to some of the comments listed here. One persons actions becomes the "norm" of all the people. This simply is not the case. What also needs to be reported is that the show did continue and Dre accepted his award. The show did not end in violence.  God bless everyone. NO exceptions. | |
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Kissmequick said: First off, this is not a "little individual award show". This was the Vibe awards, backed by the legendary Quincy Jones. By no means does he represent the ignorant foolishness that took place last night. What you are seeing here is the actions of one jealous individual who felt the need to embarrass Dr. Dre during his moment to shine. This jackass took it upon himself to punch Dre in the face just as he was about to go onstage to receive his award. This is when the maylay began. It personally pains me to wake up and see repeatedly on the morning news the images of this bullshit. Because it fuels the thinking similar to some of the comments listed here. One persons actions becomes the "norm" of all the people. This simply is not the case. What also needs to be reported is that the show did continue and Dre accepted his award. The show did not end in violence.
Well whoop tee doo.  There will always be fights at these shows. Even if it doesnt end in violence, violence will end up somewhere in the mix. Congrats to Dre. & | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Alright. Lets clear up a couple of things. I KNEW that's what this thread was going to be about when I clicked on it.
Fights happen at other awards shows. You don't hear about them because the negative publicity would hurt attendance. A "publicisized" fight at the Grammys would make it seem unsafe and thereby hurting chances of participants. Rest assured, you won't hear about a Grammy fight (unless it involves celebs) because there is an understanding that the media has with large scale events like that. Bad publicity equals NO ACCESS. It just so happens that black folk in general don't share the fear of violence that others do. We don't welcome it, but its nothing shocking. Secondly - security. There just isn't enough of it. Event planners work with the budget of the event to work things out as best as they can. Unfortunately, they ALWAYS underestimate the amount of secutiry needed. They should be more thorough. Blame the shows for not hiring enough help to handle situations like that. Thirdly, the press/media/etc. is ALWAYS looking for a reason to bad mouth hip-hop. It has become commonplace in media to highlight every negative thing that goes on at any "urban" oriented event. Its just another day at the office for them. Demonizing all that's black is status quo when it comes to events. You can't fault the industry for having the events. They are as EQUALLY relevant as the Grammys and others. Hip hop is whats paying the industry's bills. A lot of hip hop artists would much rather get recognition from the Vibe Awards or the Source Awards than get a Grammy - because the Grammys represent all that is pop in the eyes of the hip hop community. Vibe & Source focus on hip hop. Artists are pitted against each other without Velevt Revolver, Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson murking up the mix. To them it is more of a status of accomplishment as a hip hop artist. Going pop is often viewed as the beginning of the end for a hip hop artist careerwise. Its easy to play armchair critic when it comes to these events, but actually pulling it off is much harder of a task that what is being credited. They have a host of negative media and a stigma to deal with as well as all the security and organizational necessities with a fraction of the budget. Or "trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents" as some would say. Props to them for pulling it off another year. Its an uphill battle, but eventually they will level out. I respect how you're heart is in the right place but I'll tell you what, I'll blame those GROWN ASS MOFOS for not growing the fuck up when they should,,NOT anybody else! Like someone said in another board "This is embarassing to the black community as a whole because you know that in a lot of white people's minds one of us reflects all of us". | |
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CherrieMoonKisses said: Kissmequick said: First off, this is not a "little individual award show". This was the Vibe awards, backed by the legendary Quincy Jones. By no means does he represent the ignorant foolishness that took place last night. What you are seeing here is the actions of one jealous individual who felt the need to embarrass Dr. Dre during his moment to shine. This jackass took it upon himself to punch Dre in the face just as he was about to go onstage to receive his award. This is when the maylay began. It personally pains me to wake up and see repeatedly on the morning news the images of this bullshit. Because it fuels the thinking similar to some of the comments listed here. One persons actions becomes the "norm" of all the people. This simply is not the case. What also needs to be reported is that the show did continue and Dre accepted his award. The show did not end in violence.
Well whoop tee doo. There will always be fights at these shows. Even if it doesnt end in violence, violence will end up somewhere in the mix. Congrats to Dre. I'm wondering why you picked my post to make this comment when BlaqueKnight also pointed out the same information. Also, you prove my point by making blanket statement about the group instead of the individual. Not all shows end up with violence in the mix. I have to agree 100% with BlaqueKnight and say blame the shows for not hiring enough help to handle situations like that. Also,the media is ALWAYS looking for a reason to bad mouth hip-hop. God bless everyone. NO exceptions. | |
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Harlepolis said: BlaqueKnight said: Alright. Lets clear up a couple of things. I KNEW that's what this thread was going to be about when I clicked on it.
Fights happen at other awards shows. You don't hear about them because the negative publicity would hurt attendance. A "publicisized" fight at the Grammys would make it seem unsafe and thereby hurting chances of participants. Rest assured, you won't hear about a Grammy fight (unless it involves celebs) because there is an understanding that the media has with large scale events like that. Bad publicity equals NO ACCESS. It just so happens that black folk in general don't share the fear of violence that others do. We don't welcome it, but its nothing shocking. Secondly - security. There just isn't enough of it. Event planners work with the budget of the event to work things out as best as they can. Unfortunately, they ALWAYS underestimate the amount of secutiry needed. They should be more thorough. Blame the shows for not hiring enough help to handle situations like that. Thirdly, the press/media/etc. is ALWAYS looking for a reason to bad mouth hip-hop. It has become commonplace in media to highlight every negative thing that goes on at any "urban" oriented event. Its just another day at the office for them. Demonizing all that's black is status quo when it comes to events. You can't fault the industry for having the events. They are as EQUALLY relevant as the Grammys and others. Hip hop is whats paying the industry's bills. A lot of hip hop artists would much rather get recognition from the Vibe Awards or the Source Awards than get a Grammy - because the Grammys represent all that is pop in the eyes of the hip hop community. Vibe & Source focus on hip hop. Artists are pitted against each other without Velevt Revolver, Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson murking up the mix. To them it is more of a status of accomplishment as a hip hop artist. Going pop is often viewed as the beginning of the end for a hip hop artist careerwise. Its easy to play armchair critic when it comes to these events, but actually pulling it off is much harder of a task that what is being credited. They have a host of negative media and a stigma to deal with as well as all the security and organizational necessities with a fraction of the budget. Or "trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents" as some would say. Props to them for pulling it off another year. Its an uphill battle, but eventually they will level out. I respect how you're heart is in the right place but I'll tell you what, I'll blame those GROWN ASS MOFOS for not growing the fuck up when they should,,NOT anybody else! Like someone said in another board "This is embarassing to the black community as a whole because you know that in a lot of white people's minds one of us reflects all of us". co-sign God bless everyone. NO exceptions. | |
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Here's where you can downloud the video:
http://abclocal.go.com/ka...wards.html Click the 'Chaos at the Vibe Awards' link in the upper right hand corner.... | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Alright. Lets clear up a couple of things. I KNEW that's what this thread was going to be about when I clicked on it.
Fights happen at other awards shows. You don't hear about them because the negative publicity would hurt attendance. A "publicisized" fight at the Grammys would make it seem unsafe and thereby hurting chances of participants. Rest assured, you won't hear about a Grammy fight (unless it involves celebs) because there is an understanding that the media has with large scale events like that. Bad publicity equals NO ACCESS. It just so happens that black folk in general don't share the fear of violence that others do. We don't welcome it, but its nothing shocking. Secondly - security. There just isn't enough of it. Event planners work with the budget of the event to work things out as best as they can. Unfortunately, they ALWAYS underestimate the amount of secutiry needed. They should be more thorough. Blame the shows for not hiring enough help to handle situations like that. Thirdly, the press/media/etc. is ALWAYS looking for a reason to bad mouth hip-hop. It has become commonplace in media to highlight every negative thing that goes on at any "urban" oriented event. Its just another day at the office for them. Demonizing all that's black is status quo when it comes to events. You can't fault the industry for having the events. They are as EQUALLY relevant as the Grammys and others. Hip hop is whats paying the industry's bills. A lot of hip hop artists would much rather get recognition from the Vibe Awards or the Source Awards than get a Grammy - because the Grammys represent all that is pop in the eyes of the hip hop community. Vibe & Source focus on hip hop. Artists are pitted against each other without Velevt Revolver, Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson murking up the mix. To them it is more of a status of accomplishment as a hip hop artist. Going pop is often viewed as the beginning of the end for a hip hop artist careerwise. Its easy to play armchair critic when it comes to these events, but actually pulling it off is much harder of a task that what is being credited. They have a host of negative media and a stigma to deal with as well as all the security and organizational necessities with a fraction of the budget. Or "trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents" as some would say. Props to them for pulling it off another year. Its an uphill battle, but eventually they will level out. No disrespect to you at all, but do you really believe this?? Why is it ALWAYS someone else's fault? Why can't grown people take responsibility? Blame the shows for not hiring enough help to handle situations like that. WTF?? Are you serious? It's beliefs such as this that make me shake my head and wonder WTF!! | |
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That's just effin' ridiculous. Blatant lack of respect, responsibility combined with immaturity and hatred. Easy to point the finger but hard to look in the mirror. This behavior is just tired and selfish. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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deleted [Edited 11/16/04 10:37am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Harlepolis said: BlaqueKnight said: Alright. Lets clear up a couple of things. I KNEW that's what this thread was going to be about when I clicked on it.
Fights happen at other awards shows. You don't hear about them because the negative publicity would hurt attendance. A "publicisized" fight at the Grammys would make it seem unsafe and thereby hurting chances of participants. Rest assured, you won't hear about a Grammy fight (unless it involves celebs) because there is an understanding that the media has with large scale events like that. Bad publicity equals NO ACCESS. It just so happens that black folk in general don't share the fear of violence that others do. We don't welcome it, but its nothing shocking. Secondly - security. There just isn't enough of it. Event planners work with the budget of the event to work things out as best as they can. Unfortunately, they ALWAYS underestimate the amount of secutiry needed. They should be more thorough. Blame the shows for not hiring enough help to handle situations like that. Thirdly, the press/media/etc. is ALWAYS looking for a reason to bad mouth hip-hop. It has become commonplace in media to highlight every negative thing that goes on at any "urban" oriented event. Its just another day at the office for them. Demonizing all that's black is status quo when it comes to events. You can't fault the industry for having the events. They are as EQUALLY relevant as the Grammys and others. Hip hop is whats paying the industry's bills. A lot of hip hop artists would much rather get recognition from the Vibe Awards or the Source Awards than get a Grammy - because the Grammys represent all that is pop in the eyes of the hip hop community. Vibe & Source focus on hip hop. Artists are pitted against each other without Velevt Revolver, Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson murking up the mix. To them it is more of a status of accomplishment as a hip hop artist. Going pop is often viewed as the beginning of the end for a hip hop artist careerwise. Its easy to play armchair critic when it comes to these events, but actually pulling it off is much harder of a task that what is being credited. They have a host of negative media and a stigma to deal with as well as all the security and organizational necessities with a fraction of the budget. Or "trying to make a dollar out of 15 cents" as some would say. Props to them for pulling it off another year. Its an uphill battle, but eventually they will level out. I respect how you're heart is in the right place but I'll tell you what, I'll blame those GROWN ASS MOFOS for not growing the fuck up when they should,,NOT anybody else! Like someone said in another board "This is embarassing to the black community as a whole because you know that in a lot of white people's minds one of us reflects all of us". Harlepolis, with all due respect, I could give a fuck about whats on white peoples minds.A bunch of kids went crazy at Woodstock a few years ago and BURNED THE BITCH TO THE GROUND. Did that end festivals? no. Did anyone blame the entire white culture for the actions of that crowd? no.Every year after college games, drunk white students turn over cars, fight with the cops and smash store front windows. Does that mean an end to collegiate games? no. Im not condoning what happend at the Vibe awards. Its actually sickening, but I wasnt there so I cant "own" any of the responsibility. Neither can you. (Unless you punched Dre  )
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found1 said: Harlepolis said: I respect how you're heart is in the right place but I'll tell you what, I'll blame those GROWN ASS MOFOS for not growing the fuck up when they should,,NOT anybody else! Like someone said in another board "This is embarassing to the black community as a whole because you know that in a lot of white people's minds one of us reflects all of us". Harlepolis, with all due respect, I could give a fuck about whats on white peoples minds.A bunch of kids went crazy at Woodstock a few years ago and BURNED THE BITCH TO THE GROUND. Did that end festivals? no. Did anyone blame the entire white culture for the actions of that crowd? no.Every year after college games, drunk white students turn over cars, fight with the cops and smash store front windows. Does that mean an end to collegiate games? no. Im not condoning what happend at the Vibe awards. Its actually sickening, but I wasnt there so I cant "own" any of the responsibility. Neither can you. (Unless you punched Dre )
peace. [Edited 11/16/04 11:11am] Yeah, but did folks made a fuss about it? Thats what I'm saying. I'm not going to debate with you over this becoz its a FACT! The 1st thing when someone sees an urban award show(even before it happens),,,automaticaly they'll think "Oh, ghetto!" dismissing the nice & intelligent group of people that attended that SAME award show. Whereas nobody says shit about the troubles that happen in so called rock & roll festivals. So think what you want to, I already rest my case! ***EDIT: Oh, and don't you find it a lil' bit funny how everyone focus on Source & Vibe awards as if they're expecting a war in there? [Edited 11/16/04 11:21am] | |
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Yet another reason to add to my list of reasons why I don't watch these shows. | |
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