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Reply #30 posted 11/07/04 7:46pm

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Reply #31 posted 11/07/04 8:22pm

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I've never understood Brandy-haters. shrug
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Reply #32 posted 11/07/04 9:10pm

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I think Brandy is fabulous. Truely one of the last young ladies we have standing in the R&B industry today. Just recently, I was defending her on how she is now being more sexy in her image. I think she is doing it tastefully and not nasty in any way at all. Brandy has always been talent first ass last, and that was because she was too young to flaunt her feminity. Now's her time. So be it, as long as she remains focused and doesnt get caught up in the media blitz, God bless her.

I have all four of her albums. The first one, self titled, was off the chain a.k.a. excellent, the second, Never Say Never, was her best to date to me, her third, Full Moon, was different but still had some dead ringers *good ones* on it music and this recent one, Afrodiasiac, is aiiight. Sounds rushed but at least not like everything else that dirty south or crunked out on the radio nowadays.
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Reply #33 posted 11/07/04 9:20pm

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I don't really. Nice voice, needs to project more & stop being so fucking lazy on the mic. neutral
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Reply #34 posted 11/07/04 9:44pm

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" But u knows wes a good kiiiids " Brandy with her brother Ray J on MTV's "Punkd" that shit was hilarious.....
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Reply #35 posted 11/07/04 10:23pm

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Brandy was great when she first appeared in 1994. Today, I think she past her prime.
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Reply #36 posted 11/07/04 11:18pm

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I still think her music is only a'ight, and I still think she's got half human/half alien DNA.





falloff hmmm It's funny you mentioned this fact. Somehow, Brady's facial profile characteristics were somewhat alien in the back of my mind. lol
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Reply #37 posted 11/08/04 5:36am

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JANFAN4L said:

I've never understood Brandy-haters. shrug

I should explain myself, because I'm not so shallow that I would discount a performer without having an actual reason. I just don't see what about Brandy in particular stands out that she was able to secure a record deal. I think she's one of the first of the most recent wave of kids in the last ten years or so whose parents were determined to make them famous, be it in singing, acting or both.

She's got a decent voice, but nothing to write home about. She can act just enough to make it to the end of a film or show without truly wrecking things. But what she does have is a marketable package (and, no, not the porn type of "package"). With the help of stylists and agents, she's got a look that could be sold in posters, billboards, magazines, etc., and it served her career well for a while.

She worked with some producers-of-the-moment and released what I thought were some decent tracks. The Soulshock remix of Brokenhearted (note to self: update my entry on the "remix better than the original version" thread) is one of the best 90s-era R&B ballads, and Sittin' Up In My Room was a cute little song. But was it her voice that made them good or the production?

Just as CalhounSq said, she doesn't project at all. I've yet to hear anything from her that made me say, "Wow, she really can sing." She always sings in such a hushed, whispered tone that I can barely understand what she says. I don't truly dislike her; there are very few performers about whom I can say that. I just don't like what she's about: a music industry that places more value on image than talent.
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Reply #38 posted 11/08/04 5:41am

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I like Brandy,I really do,but I think maybe she should stick to acting.She's a great vocalist,but I think there's just too much competition and there's too many female R&B singers trying to do the "Beyonce" thing.That's why Brandy's latest CD is getting overlooked.Unlike many other singers who make movies,Brandy is a legitimate actress,and she should go back to that.Maybe try another sitcom.


Plus,her lastest CD is mediocre,at best boxed
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Reply #39 posted 11/08/04 10:33am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

JANFAN4L said:

I've never understood Brandy-haters. shrug

I should explain myself, because I'm not so shallow that I would discount a performer without having an actual reason. I just don't see what about Brandy in particular stands out that she was able to secure a record deal. I think she's one of the first of the most recent wave of kids in the last ten years or so whose parents were determined to make them famous, be it in singing, acting or both.

She's got a decent voice, but nothing to write home about. She can act just enough to make it to the end of a film or show without truly wrecking things. But what she does have is a marketable package (and, no, not the porn type of "package"). With the help of stylists and agents, she's got a look that could be sold in posters, billboards, magazines, etc., and it served her career well for a while.

She worked with some producers-of-the-moment and released what I thought were some decent tracks. The Soulshock remix of Brokenhearted (note to self: update my entry on the "remix better than the original version" thread) is one of the best 90s-era R&B ballads, and Sittin' Up In My Room was a cute little song. But was it her voice that made them good or the production?

Just as CalhounSq said, she doesn't project at all. I've yet to hear anything from her that made me say, "Wow, she really can sing." She always sings in such a hushed, whispered tone that I can barely understand what she says. I don't truly dislike her; there are very few performers about whom I can say that. I just don't like what she's about: a music industry that places more value on image than talent.


nod Exactly. You hit it it right on the nail with your comments.
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Reply #40 posted 11/08/04 11:13am

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i think she's just OK. Her voice seems to be weaker now than when she first came out.
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Reply #41 posted 11/08/04 11:39am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

I should explain myself, because I'm not so shallow that I would discount a performer without having an actual reason. I just don't see what about Brandy in particular stands out that she was able to secure a record deal. I think she's one of the first of the most recent wave of kids in the last ten years or so whose parents were determined to make them famous, be it in singing, acting or both.

She's got a decent voice, but nothing to write home about. She can act just enough to make it to the end of a film or show without truly wrecking things. But what she does have is a marketable package (and, no, not the porn type of "package"). With the help of stylists and agents, she's got a look that could be sold in posters, billboards, magazines, etc., and it served her career well for a while.

She worked with some producers-of-the-moment and released what I thought were some decent tracks. The Soulshock remix of Brokenhearted (note to self: update my entry on the "remix better than the original version" thread) is one of the best 90s-era R&B ballads, and Sittin' Up In My Room was a cute little song. But was it her voice that made them good or the production?

Just as CalhounSq said, she doesn't project at all. I've yet to hear anything from her that made me say, "Wow, she really can sing." She always sings in such a hushed, whispered tone that I can barely understand what she says. I don't truly dislike her; there are very few performers about whom I can say that. I just don't like what she's about: a music industry that places more value on image than talent.


The same could be said for Britney Spears, Usher, Jessica Simpson, Mya, Mandy Moore, Justin Timberlake (any singer on the charts who was a Mickey Mouse Club alum), I don't think a few of them *needed* recording contracts, but obviously some A&R rep saw potential. Brandy has talent and she can sing.

I'm not a guru on Brandy's career history, but I do know that she wanted to be a singer since her days as a little girl in the church choir. Her idol was Whitney Houston. Her mother, seeing her daughter's potential and hunger, quit her job to become Brandy's full time manager. Brandy wanted it, too. It wasn't just her mother pressuring her to become a star. If that was the case, she would've fallen flat shortly after her debut.

Brandy (along with Monica and Aaliyah) predates this current crop of TRL-fueled stars by about five years. She's been in the game for a decade (this year being her tenth). She has spoken about throwing in the towel on numerous occasions (due to her disillusionment with the entertainment industry), but she likes singing and she wants to put out records for her fans. She has enough money right now to stop, but she hasn't and I think that's cool. The record industry is a shady business and I think around the Full Moon period that was taking a toll on her emotionally.

Forgive me for throwing out artists from the past, but Billie Holiday wasn't hollerin' and a yellin' (having melisma attacks) and she's considered a premiere songstress. So is Sade, etc. A strong, loud, greasy fat-girl's "singing voice" isn't the #1 chopping-block for estimating an artist. A singer's voice is largely relevant to your own personal tastes. I like Brandy's raspy mezzosoprano, another may not. Brandy could be a little more pro-active about her singing career by performing live and giving great shows, but I've yet to see her put on a tour.

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Reply #42 posted 11/08/04 12:06pm

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Despite what people think or say about her. Brandy is one of the few female R&B artists who can actually sing, IMO. When she first started out you could tell she wanted to be Whitney and wanted nothing more than to sound like her, but judging from her last two albums (Full Moon and Afrodisiac) she has finally ditched the Whitney-sound-alike contest and come into her own (courtesy of the vocal teachings of her father). The runs and riffs she does are amazing and I hope she keeps it up. clapping
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Reply #43 posted 11/08/04 12:34pm

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Rhondab said:

i think she's just OK. Her voice seems to be weaker now than when she first came out.


nod True. I wonder does her age have anything to do with it. When she started out, she was only 16 yrs. old. I am pretty sure that her voice has went throught some changes considering the fact that she is in her mid 20's. Of course, her voice wasn't that spectacular to begin with. She is on equal footing with Monica and all the rest of those studio made singer I hate to say.
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Reply #44 posted 11/08/04 12:57pm

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JANFAN4L said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

I should explain myself, because I'm not so shallow that I would discount a performer without having an actual reason. I just don't see what about Brandy in particular stands out that she was able to secure a record deal. I think she's one of the first of the most recent wave of kids in the last ten years or so whose parents were determined to make them famous, be it in singing, acting or both.

She's got a decent voice, but nothing to write home about. She can act just enough to make it to the end of a film or show without truly wrecking things. But what she does have is a marketable package (and, no, not the porn type of "package"). With the help of stylists and agents, she's got a look that could be sold in posters, billboards, magazines, etc., and it served her career well for a while.

She worked with some producers-of-the-moment and released what I thought were some decent tracks. The Soulshock remix of Brokenhearted (note to self: update my entry on the "remix better than the original version" thread) is one of the best 90s-era R&B ballads, and Sittin' Up In My Room was a cute little song. But was it her voice that made them good or the production?

Just as CalhounSq said, she doesn't project at all. I've yet to hear anything from her that made me say, "Wow, she really can sing." She always sings in such a hushed, whispered tone that I can barely understand what she says. I don't truly dislike her; there are very few performers about whom I can say that. I just don't like what she's about: a music industry that places more value on image than talent.


The same could be said for Britney Spears, Usher, Jessica Simpson, Mya, Mandy Moore, Justin Timberlake (any singer on the charts who was a Mickey Mouse Club alum), I don't think a few of them *needed* recording contracts, but obviously some A&R rep saw potential. Brandy has talent and she can sing.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this. I certainly didn't say she was the only one - that's why I said it was a music industry problem.
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Reply #45 posted 11/08/04 10:02pm

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DavidEye said:

I like Brandy,I really do,but I think maybe she should stick to acting.She's a great vocalist,but I think there's just too much competition and there's too many female R&B singers trying to do the "Beyonce" thing.That's why Brandy's latest CD is getting overlooked.Unlike many other singers who make movies,Brandy is a legitimate actress,and she should go back to that.Maybe try another sitcom.


I enjoyed the first sitcom she was on. I think it was called "Thea". I could tolerate "Moesha". I even enjoyed the movie she did with Diana Ross.

I can't stand her music. Never have and probably never will. I remember watching her in the movie "I Still Know What You Did Last Summer" and wishing the killer would slash up her CDs. lol
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Reply #46 posted 11/09/04 7:12pm

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She is on equal footing with Monica and all the rest of those studio made singer I hate to say.



No, I just can't agree with that. Monica's got pipes for DAYS... She sounded like she was holdin' back on that "Boy is Mine" duet. Control, tone, range, timbre -- Monica's no joke.
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Reply #47 posted 11/09/04 8:11pm

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glamslamkid said:

i really like Brandy. I liked the whole Aaliyah/Brandy/Mya/Monica thing from back in the day. It seems like each of them represented black girls everywhere. I think they're all gorgeous black women. Aaliyah was the tomgirl from around the way that used to hang around guys, and then she blossomed and the same guys developed a crush on her and stopped viewing her as "just one of the guys", Brandy was the shy girl that nobody knew could sing, and it was a mistake to mistake her shyness for being naive, Mya was the ghetto girl that acted like she was too good for everybody,and was too sexy and knew it, and Monica was the "look, don't bring no bullshit around me and waste my time" type chick. Just like there was Aretha, Whitney, Chaka, and Dionne way back, i feel this was our generation. And they had positivity in their songs and it wasn't all about "shake 'yo ass, he's my man, bitch...where's your bentley and rolls royce and house on the hill? get out my face you broke mutha fucka" and i really enjoyed listening to them. But anyway, i like Brandy, cuz Brandy can actually sing, and i think she's a positive role model. We still have yet to see her get half naked and dripping wet in a video shaking her hoo-hoos and her no-no. And i think that she has matured GREATLY and we can see that in how she is now and in her music. Just my twocents though...



You've hit the nail on the head bout each R&B star represnted back in the day. Ahhhh, 95...yeah I was in the 10th grade and "Baby" was in full Airplay. Remember 702's "Thai lil game we play" and subway's "Fire".

As for being a sweeheart, well, she always seemed kinda fast on the low. Plus, she good at talking bull "...we shared a special union..." either you're married or you're not.
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Reply #48 posted 11/09/04 9:15pm

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I think Brandy should go back to whoever produced her first album. To me that is where she sounds the best and where she seems more at home. That first album was more funky then anything she's ever done with Rodney, though I do like some of her stuff with Rodney. The fact is she seemed to have her own sound with her initial producers. With Rodney she sounded more typical R&B. But "Sitting On Top Of The World" did have a funky bassline reminiscent of her first album. Even Babyface knew when to lay down the smooth funk when it came time to produce for Brandy (Sitting Up In My Room) and Lenny knew what to come with as well ("Where Are You Now." That is the name of it right? That song on the "Batman" soundtrack).
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Reply #49 posted 11/10/04 6:48am

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CynicKill said:

I think Brandy should go back to whoever produced her first album.


Keith Crouch-an awesome yet underrated producer/musician. clapping

Not to mention Rahsaan Patterson's lyrics and background vocals all over that debut album. wink
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Reply #50 posted 11/10/04 7:33am

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okaypimpn said:

CynicKill said:

I think Brandy should go back to whoever produced her first album.


Keith Crouch-an awesome yet underrated producer/musician. clapping

Not to mention Rahsaan Patterson's lyrics and background vocals all over that debut album. wink


Yeah! The production on Brandy's first CD was (should I dare say it) FUNKY. As in real funk, like she could have a funk band behind her songs.

I remember I went out and bought Brandy's debut in '94 after seeing a black man in his who appeared to be in his 30s jamming to "Best Friend" at a listening station in a record store. He was just wildly bobbing his head and clapping along to it. I was like, "I'm'a buy that album!"

I still listen to it regularly.
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Reply #51 posted 11/10/04 10:40am

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Yeah! The production on Brandy's first CD was (should I dare say it) FUNKY. As in real funk, like she could have a funk band behind her songs.


As a resident funkologist, I must agree that brady did have some serious funk going on in that first album especially w/the single "Best Friend". Shit, she needs to get some of the funk back into her life and stop frontin. fro afro pick.
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Reply #52 posted 11/10/04 12:46pm

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Hotlegs said:

JANFAN4L said



Yeah! The production on Brandy's first CD was (should I dare say it) FUNKY. As in real funk, like she could have a funk band behind her songs.


As a resident funkologist, I must agree that brady did have some serious funk going on in that first album especially w/the single "Best Friend". Shit, she needs to get some of the funk back into her life and stop frontin. fro afro pick.


Do ya'll remember brother Ray J.'s single, "Let It Go," from the Set It Off soundtrack? Now that was funky!!!!! fro
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Reply #53 posted 11/11/04 6:21am

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I love Brandy's "Never Say Never" album. It was the most excellent exercise in pop/r&b that she has ever delivered. Brandy and Darkchild should always work together!
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Reply #54 posted 11/11/04 7:00am

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dreamfactory313 said:

Brandy and Darkchild should always work together!


Judging from the lackluster sales of Afrodisiac, I have a feeling she'll go back to him. hmmm
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Reply #55 posted 11/11/04 1:38pm

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okaypimpn said:

dreamfactory313 said:

Brandy and Darkchild should always work together!


Judging from the lackluster sales of Afrodisiac, I have a feeling she'll go back to him. hmmm


nod Yep. Exactly.
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Reply #56 posted 11/11/04 1:44pm

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The last album & videos disappointed me
It seemed like she was trying to fit in with whats going on now

She needs good beats and lyrics,she's trying to be hard & edgy and thats not her nature
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Reply #57 posted 11/11/04 1:51pm

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okaypimpn said:

dreamfactory313 said:

Brandy and Darkchild should always work together!


Judging from the lackluster sales of Afrodisiac, I have a feeling she'll go back to him. hmmm


Unfortunately that's probably the case, though she needs to forget all that nonsense and get back with Keith.
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CynicKill said:

okaypimpn said:



Judging from the lackluster sales of Afrodisiac, I have a feeling she'll go back to him. hmmm


Unfortunately that's probably the case, though she needs to forget all that nonsense and get back with Keith.


I concur. Get back with Keith and Rahsaan and let her mama run her life again.
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Reply #59 posted 11/11/04 1:55pm

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