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PrintablePagey said: minneapolisgenius said: Hi Pagey.  Minne!! Listening to The Song Remains The Same at this very moment!! Get out of here! So am I!!!  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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lastdecember said: I have seen many American Reviews of the Latest DURAN DURAN cd and Still this band gets NO RESPECT at all. Its amazing that a Band that CREATED VIDEO to be used as an Art Form, never really gets its Due. Instead in a Review from BLENDER magazine it says "DURAN DURAN never really made a good album anyway" and goes on to compare them to an 80's Version of NSYNC. Whatever U feel personally about DURAN is not the point really, statements Like the 90's were DURAN's LOST decade, that they had NO FOCUS at all. Excuse me, I think the WEDDING ALBUM, MEDAZZALAND, and POP TRASH are great FOCUSED statements. Its funny but a Magazine like BLENDER will trash a DURAN DURAN for still recording but then praise FRANZ FERDINAND and the SCISSOR SISTERS and THE KILLERS, who all site DURAN as an Influence and a group that paved the way for them. And the NSYNC and boy band comparison is insane. Just because NSYNC had that kind of FAME for 2-3 years, the comparison is not even close, that would be liking saying the BEATLES in their early days were like the BACKSTREET BOYS. Give it up already, the Boy Band thing was ALL a producer, driven creation. None of the BOY BANDS ever struggled, played instruments, wrote songs, played clubs, or any of that. I think the one thing that has changed over the last 15 years or so is the fact that PRODUCERS have destroyed MUSIC. Thats not say there isnt something positive out there, but the ratio is about for every Joss Stone, Van Hunt and Norah Jones, we get about 50-100 Producer driven artists like, JOJO and Christina Milian and others that pollute the charts. And to say "oh well thats what people like" is another stupid statement, just because people like it doesnt mean its good. Just because its sells, really doesnt mean its good, especially in these times, it just means its the same old thing, and people are afraid to change and take a chance on something thats not like everything else.
My TOP 10 (in no order) Duran Duran- Astronaut **** John Mellencamp- Words and Music ***** Hall and Oates- old kind of soul **** Joss Stone- Mind Body and Soul *** REM- around the Sun **** Tears For fears- Everybody Loves a Happy Ending ***** HEART-Jupiters Darling **** Elton John-Peachtree Road ***** Seal-Best of 91-2004 + Acoustic **** John Lennon-Acoustic **** they'll get the respect they deserve i think they have a good chance to be inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame when they are eligible next year Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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jonylawson said: read my lips...because they are S H I T
a fuckin 80s glamour band who wont go away can you please tell me what sort of musicologist would give duran"respect" in what? songwriting instrumentation? production? they fall in2 the same category as bananarama and wham!good time bubblegum 80s pop. amen. like your opinion counts for anything Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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jonylawson said: read my lips...because they are S H I T
a fuckin 80s glamour band who wont go away can you please tell me what sort of musicologist would give duran"respect" in what? songwriting instrumentation? production? they fall in2 the same category as bananarama and wham!good time bubblegum 80s pop. amen.  This coming from someone who sings the praises of second-rate Beatles knock-offs like Oasis.
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as my dad used to say, opinions are like an a--hole... everyone has got one
Duran Duran is amazing.. I am really digging the 2nd singles box right now... i made a 2-CD singles compilation from the 2 box sets and i can't stop playing them. Great stuff | |
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The amount of ignorance on this thread is stunning. Most of the people posting on here have OBVIOUSLY never really listened to Duran Duran whatsoever. To say they were "Vapid" is to truly miss out on their music.
Simon Le Bob is probably the single most under-rated lyricist alive. His lyrics are FAR from lacking substance. Nick Rhodes pioneered synth sounds that bands today are still ripping off. Duran created tight songs that actually had something to say (how many other top forty bands had hits about Yogic mental diciplines?). To put them in a category with Bananarama or Wham! is just ridiculous. To put them in a category with the boy bands of the 90s is just retarded. Sure, Duran was heavily image oriented, but that doesn't discount their music. They came out of the New Romantic movement of the late 70s and early 80s, which developed as an antidote to punk. Instead of the scraggly look of punk, the New Romantics were sharply dressed. Duran captured this asthetic in a way none of their contemporaries were able to. Naturally, their record label saw the marketing potential of having five dashing men in a band that was taking the relatively new medium of video and running with it. While this strategy was repeated with the boy-bands in the 90s, there was a MAJOR difference with Duran: the music. Duran crafted smart, slick songs that set them apart from the pack. All five members are accomplished musicians who can out-play many of their contemporaries (why else did the boys have to get a guitarist like Warren Cucurrulo of Frank Zappa fame to replace Andy Taylor? Quite simply, they needed someone of that caliber). Its easy to discount them because of their image, but to do so is foolish (and, I might remind everyone, The Beatles were originally marketed primarily because of their image as well). The fact that they still get attention after all this time shows their prowess. They still know how to craft incredible tunes. To say otherwise is to prove ignorance on the subject.
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JediMaster said: The amount of ignorance on this thread is stunning. Most of the people posting on here have OBVIOUSLY never really listened to Duran Duran whatsoever. To say they were "Vapid" is to truly miss out on their music.
Simon Le Bob is probably the single most under-rated lyricist alive. His lyrics are FAR from lacking substance. Nick Rhodes pioneered synth sounds that bands today are still ripping off. Duran created tight songs that actually had something to say (how many other top forty bands had hits about Yogic mental diciplines?). To put them in a category with Bananarama or Wham! is just ridiculous. To put them in a category with the boy bands of the 90s is just retarded. Sure, Duran was heavily image oriented, but that doesn't discount their music. They came out of the New Romantic movement of the late 70s and early 80s, which developed as an antidote to punk. Instead of the scraggly look of punk, the New Romantics were sharply dressed. Duran captured this asthetic in a way none of their contemporaries were able to. Naturally, their record label saw the marketing potential of having five dashing men in a band that was taking the relatively new medium of video and running with it. While this strategy was repeated with the boy-bands in the 90s, there was a MAJOR difference with Duran: the music. Duran crafted smart, slick songs that set them apart from the pack. All five members are accomplished musicians who can out-play many of their contemporaries (why else did the boys have to get a guitarist like Warren Cucurrulo of Frank Zappa fame to replace Andy Taylor? Quite simply, they needed someone of that caliber). Its easy to discount them because of their image, but to do so is foolish (and, I might remind everyone, The Beatles were originally marketed primarily because of their image as well). The fact that they still get attention after all this time shows their prowess. They still know how to craft incredible tunes. To say otherwise is to prove ignorance on the subject. Bravo! Well-said. This notion of something having "substance" or NOT having "substance" is bewildering and amusing to me. That is 100% subjective. Duran Duran has released a string of stellar pop/rock albums that have stood the test of time for 20 years. That ain't easy, folks. | |
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I was never a fan. I don't think they suck, but their music never moved me in any way. I have to feel the music to be drawn to it and I always found Duran Duran to be a bit boring. They never had anything to attract me. | |
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jonylawson said: read my lips...because they are S H I T
Its the internet. We can't read your lips. Glad you know how to spell "shit" though. It describes Oasis to a T a fuckin 80s glamour band who wont go away
Bowie was a 70s "glamour" act. Being glam doesn't discount a band's talent can you please tell me what sort of musicologist would give duran"respect"
Plenty. The overwhelming majority of musicologist are just now starting to cite Duran Duran's contribution and influence. Just read 90% of the reviews for Astronaut and you'll see that the vast majority of them are positive. Most of these reviews cite the bands contributions and influence. Oh, sure, Blender doesn't like them! Big fucking whoop! This is the same magazine that praised Christina Aguilerra's last album, but listed The Doors as one of the worst bands of all time. Yeah, I really take them seriously. in what?
songwriting Absolutely. Listen to "To The Shore" or "The Chauffer" and THEN we'll talk. instrumentation?
Most definitely. Nick Rhodes pioneered the synth sounds of the 80s. Andy Taylor and Warren Cucurullo are both phenomenal guitarists (Guitar Magazine once stated that Cucurrullo deserved to be on a modern guitarist's Mount Rushmore alongside Van Halen, Satriani and Vai) production?
Now your ignorance is REALLY showing. Even their detrator's will acknowledge that Duran always has top-notch production. they fall in2 the same category as bananarama and wham!good time bubblegum 80s pop.
Not even. They fall into a category alongside Depeche Mode, The Cure and New Order. Good, British New Wave that broke new ground in the 80s, and still are going strong today.
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kisscamille said: I was never a fan. I don't think they suck, but their music never moved me in any way. I have to feel the music to be drawn to it and I always found Duran Duran to be a bit boring. They never had anything to attract me.
See, I totally respect opinions like this. I understand that not everyone is moved by the same kind of music. This morning I was watching VH-1 Classic and the video for Violence of Summer came on and I yelled "Yeah" in sheer joy. They we're playing 2 videos by each artist so I knew another one was coming up. I thought of this thread and it dawned on me that Duran Duran make me really happy, they move me. They write all their music, they are creative and passionate about MUSIC... not dance moves, not bling, not lipsyncing... You can't say that about too many artists nowadays, so to compare them to a manufactured boy-band is just ludacris. When they toured in 2003, the critics were comparing them to the Rolling Stones. Sure, I would rather not hear more from the Stones or Aerosmith... I'm not interested in them. But I understand that a lot of people are. All three of these bands write their own music and are passionate about what they do and they make their fans happy. That's what it's all about! | |
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VinaBlue said: kisscamille said: I was never a fan. I don't think they suck, but their music never moved me in any way. I have to feel the music to be drawn to it and I always found Duran Duran to be a bit boring. They never had anything to attract me.
See, I totally respect opinions like this. I understand that not everyone is moved by the same kind of music. This morning I was watching VH-1 Classic and the video for Violence of Summer came on and I yelled "Yeah" in sheer joy. They we're playing 2 videos by each artist so I knew another one was coming up. I thought of this thread and it dawned on me that Duran Duran make me really happy, they move me. They write all their music, they are creative and passionate about MUSIC... not dance moves, not bling, not lipsyncing... You can't say that about too many artists nowadays, so to compare them to a manufactured boy-band is just ludacris. When they toured in 2003, the critics were comparing them to the Rolling Stones. Sure, I would rather not hear more from the Stones or Aerosmith... I'm not interested in them. But I understand that a lot of people are. All three of these bands write their own music and are passionate about what they do and they make their fans happy. That's what it's all about!  what she said!!!
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Dude, Duran Duran Duran gets no respect! | |
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Novabreaker said: Dude, Duran Duran Duran gets no respect!
Its the third "Duran" that does it. Just need two!
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JediMaster said: Novabreaker said: Dude, Duran Duran Duran gets no respect!
Its the third "Duran" that does it. Just need two! No, three! I'm talking about Duran Duran Duran here. It's a whole different group. | |
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Interesting that this is all based on one review. For every one negative, which isn't surprise, cuz that's what makes the world go round; I can list a dozen or more where 'Astronaut' received at least three stars or a B grading for instance in Entertainment Weekly. Of course those who are stuck in an 80's mindset of music videos and pretty boys are going to feel that way regardless. Ever since the original five reunited, they finally got their due from MTV, and lots of accolades from around the world. Just because of one or maybe half a dozen not so favorable reviews doesn't mean overall they aren't getting respect.
As for the critics, basing your dislike on the radio hits is your prerogative, but it's also easy. Even I wouldn't lose any sleep if I don't hear HLTW or Rio for a year or so. If they aren't your cup of tea, so be it, but it would be nice to hear the negative that doesn't boil down to saying 'they suck' or they were only 'teenybopper boy band.' Comments like those are old. There are a couple of posts that had something more to add, and I respect that reasoning more than potshots. "Funkyslsistah… you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude"!
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funkyslsistah said: Interesting that this is all based on one review. For every one negative, which isn't surprise, cuz that's what makes the world go round; I can list a dozen or more where 'Astronaut' received at least three stars or a B grading for instance in Entertainment Weekly. Of course those who are stuck in an 80's mindset of music videos and pretty boys are going to feel that way regardless. Ever since the original five reunited, they finally got their due from MTV, and lots of accolades from around the world. Just because of one or maybe half a dozen not so favorable reviews doesn't mean overall they aren't getting respect.
As for the critics, basing your dislike on the radio hits is your prerogative, but it's also easy. Even I wouldn't lose any sleep if I don't hear HLTW or Rio for a year or so. If they aren't your cup of tea, so be it, but it would be nice to hear the negative that doesn't boil down to saying 'they suck' or they were only 'teenybopper boy band.' Comments like those are old. There are a couple of posts that had something more to add, and I respect that reasoning more than potshots. Well said, and very true. Blender is definitely in the minority (and, again, they had The Doors on their worst band list, as well as on their worst song list, so their credibility is fairly well shot).
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jonylawson said: read my lips...because they are S H I T
a fuckin 80s glamour band who wont go away can you please tell me what sort of musicologist would give duran"respect" in what? songwriting instrumentation? production? they fall in2 the same category as bananarama and wham!good time bubblegum 80s pop. amen. Wondering where u got your music lessons from? If they were as shit as you are saying they wouldn't excist anymore, like so many. you named Wham and banarama...But Duran Duran is still here!!! So stop the bullshit, and get used to the fact they're still around! What Led Zeppelin was for the 70's, Duran Duran has been for the 80's (Not musically, but looking at record sales) At least you can have a little respect for that! Ofcourse you can not like their music, but if you are a music fan, you cannot deny they have been an important band, and they are true musicians!! Jsut liek the Beatles or the Stones deserve respect... because they meant something for the music businnes! So go and read some good music articles, or go back and listen to Jill Scott or Oasis!!  [Edited 11/9/04 12:12pm] the beautiful ones, you always seem to loose | |
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I never got into Duran Duran back in the 80s, but I did like some of their songs. I just never bought any of their albums. I also had NO IDEA that they were as huge as they were. I was totally oblivious to that.  I had started to veer in a different direction, as far as my musical tastes went, so I only heard them on the radio from time to time.
It wasn't until a few years ago that I noticed my husband had some Duran Duran cds in his collection, and I listened to them for the first time. I was pretty impressed, and I still listen to them once and a while. Just not so much right now. and "Girls On Film" song & video?  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: I never got into Duran Duran back in the 80s, but I did like some of their songs. I just never bought any of their albums. I also had NO IDEA that they were as huge as they were. I was totally oblivious to that.
I had started to veer in a different direction, as far as my musical tastes went, so I only heard them on the radio from time to time.
It wasn't until a few years ago that I noticed my husband had some Duran Duran cds in his collection, and I listened to them for the first time. I was pretty impressed, and I still listen to them once and a while. Just not so much right now. and "Girls On Film" song & video? Radical. Which cds does he have? | |
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VinaBlue said: minneapolisgenius said: I never got into Duran Duran back in the 80s, but I did like some of their songs. I just never bought any of their albums. I also had NO IDEA that they were as huge as they were. I was totally oblivious to that.
I had started to veer in a different direction, as far as my musical tastes went, so I only heard them on the radio from time to time.
It wasn't until a few years ago that I noticed my husband had some Duran Duran cds in his collection, and I listened to them for the first time. I was pretty impressed, and I still listen to them once and a while. Just not so much right now. and "Girls On Film" song & video? Radical. Which cds does he have? I have no idea. Whatever one "Girls on Film" is on, and then one from around '84. I don't know the album titles of DD at all, although I'd recognize them if I heard them. 
I suppose I could look it up on allmusic.com, but I'm too lazy.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: VinaBlue said: Radical. Which cds does he have? I have no idea. Whatever one "Girls on Film" is on, and then one from around '84. I don't know the album titles of DD at all, although I'd recognize them if I heard them.
I suppose I could look it up on allmusic.com, but I'm too lazy.
The one with Girls On Film is their self-titled debut. It is a great album, start to finish. The one from 84 might be 7 & the Ragged Tiger... Rio came out in 82. Notorious (87) is really funky. They said they were very inspired by the Parade tour, so they have lots of trumpet on this one. Really great album and one of their best live shows. Big Thing (88) is also quite good. Heck, I love them all!  | |
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VinaBlue said: minneapolisgenius said: I have no idea. Whatever one "Girls on Film" is on, and then one from around '84. I don't know the album titles of DD at all, although I'd recognize them if I heard them.
I suppose I could look it up on allmusic.com, but I'm too lazy.
The one with Girls On Film is their self-titled debut. It is a great album, start to finish. The one from 84 might be 7 & the Ragged Tiger... Rio came out in 82. Notorious (87) is really funky. They said they were very inspired by the Parade tour, so they have lots of trumpet on this one. Really great album and one of their best live shows. Big Thing (88) is also quite good. Heck, I love them all! Well, that's why I couldn't think if the name since it's self-titled. That is a good one from start to finish, and my favorite of what I've heard. Hmm, maybe I've heard Rio as well.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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minneapolisgenius said: Pagey said: Minne!! Listening to The Song Remains The Same at this very moment!! Get out of here! So am I!!! This is freaky 'cause its a day later and I just happened to turn on Houses of the Holy, and am listening to TSRTS again RIGHT NOW! Weird! | |
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JediMaster said: jonylawson said: read my lips...because they are S H I T
a fuckin 80s glamour band who wont go away can you please tell me what sort of musicologist would give duran"respect" in what? songwriting instrumentation? production? they fall in2 the same category as bananarama and wham!good time bubblegum 80s pop. amen. This coming from someone who sings the praises of second-rate Beatles knock-offs like Oasis.
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It's weird how someone here is taking it so personal. DQ | |
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Pagey said: minneapolisgenius said: Get out of here! So am I!!! This is freaky 'cause its a day later and I just happened to turn on Houses of the Holy, and am listening to TSRTS again RIGHT NOW! Weird! AND...5 minutes before I read your first post about listening to it, I had just put it into my portable MP3 player with a bunch of other random songs. "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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I liked them 'till their 'Rio' period,after that they were ,in my opinion,starting to repeat themselves.The videos got better,but that's what happens when you make more money...And Simon Le Bon still isn't much of a singer,I think.. | |
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Pagey said: JediMaster said: This coming from someone who sings the praises of second-rate Beatles knock-offs like Oasis.
Don't knock Oasis or I'll call Liam to kick your butt. Oooooo, I'm scared!!! This is the guy who challenged Mick Jagger to a fight, then got scared when a bunch of Rolling Stone's fans showed up in Mick masks. He's a fucking pussy, and his music sucks donkey balls. If I wanna hear Beatles impersonators, I'll pick up a copy of Beatlemania. At least that's fairly good. So, bring Liam on! I'll kick his little candy-ass! [Edited 11/10/04 8:20am]
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jkj10 said: ...And Simon Le Bon still isn't much of a singer,I think..
until a few years ago I would have agreed with you, but he is really singing great right now!!!! Guess he took some lessons! the beautiful ones, you always seem to loose | |
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