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Reply #30 posted 11/07/04 8:27am

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Define "Greatest Hits" though. There are a lot of budget collections that are like "Greatest Hits" sets.
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Reply #31 posted 11/07/04 8:31am

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meow85 said:

ABeautifulOne said:


2.Backstreet Boys/4-5 years is not the greatest!!!!!



Point 1: As of the release of "Backstreet Boys:The Hits -Chapter One" they'd been together for eight years. In case you were curious, they still haven't broken up, so now it's been eleven. tease

Point 2: Th release of the "greatest hits" compilation was a decision by management to capitalize on Nick Carter's solo release. The group was not happy with this. Ergo, probably not their idea.


And that's my twocents


Someone is into Backstreet. Why would the label release a greatest hits record to capatilize on a solo album that was coming out a year later. Don't understand. Neither did the record buying, who totally passed on Nick's album and I don't think fully embraced the hits set. When you consider it's a hits set from CDs that sold million and millions and is from a group who was wanning in popularity, it was a disaster in the making. .
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Reply #32 posted 11/07/04 8:33am

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dawntreader said:

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Yeah, well everyone's doing that these days. shrug


well i am threadjacking for a second. i am going to see KD Lang wednesday! she never had a greatest hits !


She really should although calling it a "Best Of" might be more fitting.
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Reply #33 posted 11/07/04 8:39am

jayaredee

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Name some artists who have jumped the gun on putting out a gretest hits CD without have enough greatest hits??

Macy Gray..


Britney Spears
Vengaboys (their 1st album was called greatest hits)


You know, whether you like Britney or not, she has 4 albums out with lots of hits.
She has more than enough
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Reply #34 posted 11/07/04 8:41am

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

Lennon said:



Britney Spears
Vengaboys (their 1st album was called greatest hits)


You know, whether you like Britney or not, she has 4 albums out with lots of hits.
She has more than enough


How many of these "hits" actually charted higher than number 40? Unless the #93 peak of "Overprotected" means it was a smash.
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Reply #35 posted 11/07/04 8:43am

jayaredee

VoicesCarry said:

jayaredee said:



You know, whether you like Britney or not, she has 4 albums out with lots of hits.
She has more than enough


How many of these "hits" actually charted higher than number 40? Unless the #93 peak of "Overprotected" means it was a smash.


I don't know the charts, nor do i care.
She has enough hits to me and that's fine
Its not like im gonna buy the album
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Reply #36 posted 11/07/04 8:45am

VoicesCarry

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VoicesCarry said:



How many of these "hits" actually charted higher than number 40? Unless the #93 peak of "Overprotected" means it was a smash.


I don't know the charts, nor do i care.
She has enough hits to me and that's fine
Its not like im gonna buy the album


A bunch of album tracks that were released as singles but did not chart aren't "hits" by any measure. lol I think that's the point of this thread.
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Reply #37 posted 11/07/04 8:47am

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VoicesCarry said:

jayaredee said:



I don't know the charts, nor do i care.
She has enough hits to me and that's fine
Its not like im gonna buy the album


A bunch of album tracks that were released as singles but did not chart aren't "hits" by any measure. lol I think that's the point of this thread.


Oh calm down you closet Britney fan
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Reply #38 posted 11/07/04 8:52am

VoicesCarry

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VoicesCarry said:



A bunch of album tracks that were released as singles but did not chart aren't "hits" by any measure. lol I think that's the point of this thread.


Oh calm down you closet Britney fan


*shudder*

I'm not the one defending her "hits" razz
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Reply #39 posted 11/07/04 9:14am

jayaredee

VoicesCarry said:

jayaredee said:



Oh calm down you closet Britney fan


*shudder*

I'm not the one defending her "hits" razz


yes but you sure know enough about their chart status lol
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Reply #40 posted 11/07/04 9:17am

VoicesCarry

jayaredee said:

VoicesCarry said:



*shudder*

I'm not the one defending her "hits" razz


yes but you sure know enough about their chart status lol


I should, considering I follow charts quite avidly. What's your excuse wink ?
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Reply #41 posted 11/07/04 9:27am

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This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #42 posted 11/07/04 9:37am

Pagey

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2???? I only saw the acoustic one...which is the other one?

Ow yeah, i forgot to mention marlyn Manson..Greatest hits?? Which hits?



The digitally remastered "Rock and Roll" from 1975 there will be some bonus tracks as well!!


I can't WAIT for these! My old tape of Rock and Roll seriously needs to be updated!

Was that acoustic set ever released before?
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Reply #43 posted 11/07/04 9:40am

jayaredee

VoicesCarry said:

jayaredee said:



yes but you sure know enough about their chart status lol


I should, considering I follow charts quite avidly. What's your excuse wink ?


I dunno, im bored
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Reply #44 posted 11/07/04 7:09pm

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B2K, they had 2 albums and a christmas EP
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Reply #45 posted 11/07/04 7:19pm

SammiJ

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B2K, they had 2 albums and a christmas EP

i didnt think anyone was gunna mention them

i was so mad when i heard they had a greatest hits album i was like... eek wtf confused
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Reply #46 posted 11/07/04 7:21pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

B2K, they had 2 albums and a christmas EP


That was pretty sad. I remember seeing that in the Columbia House catalog and hadn't even released it had been released to record stores. I'm sure the only reason it was released so early or at all was because the group had broken up.
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Reply #47 posted 11/08/04 1:53am

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meow85 said:




Point 1: As of the release of "Backstreet Boys:The Hits -Chapter One" they'd been together for eight years. In case you were curious, they still haven't broken up, so now it's been eleven. tease

Point 2: Th release of the "greatest hits" compilation was a decision by management to capitalize on Nick Carter's solo release. The group was not happy with this. Ergo, probably not their idea.


And that's my twocents


Someone is into Backstreet. Why would the label release a greatest hits record to capatilize on a solo album that was coming out a year later. Don't understand. Neither did the record buying, who totally passed on Nick's album and I don't think fully embraced the hits set. When you consider it's a hits set from CDs that sold million and millions and is from a group who was wanning in popularity, it was a disaster in the making. .


The way I understand it, the Backstreet Boys had been frustrated with Jive Records for a long time, especially since *NSYNC signed on. They got fed up with the competitive aspect of recording for Jive, and since a greatest hits record counted for one of the records they needed to fulfill their contract with the label, they agreed to release one as a way of being able to bail faster. And you will recall that after Nick Carter's solo album came out, the group filed suit against Jive Records because they missed the deadline on the next group album, thanks to Jive's insistence that Nick record his solo album first. I think Nick joined onto the suit because he was upset with the way Jive handled his record, seeing as it came out a week before Justin Timberlake's album, and Justin was clearly getting a bigger slice of the promotional pie. So the legal issues are part of the reason why four years have gone by since the release of their most recent studio album. But they're coming back for Chapter Two, and I've definitely missed them. There aren't many singers on the charts these days. I've seen BSB in concert, and they are definitely the real thing.
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Reply #48 posted 11/08/04 2:22am

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VinnyM27 said:

meow85 said:




Point 1: As of the release of "Backstreet Boys:The Hits -Chapter One" they'd been together for eight years. In case you were curious, they still haven't broken up, so now it's been eleven. tease

Point 2: Th release of the "greatest hits" compilation was a decision by management to capitalize on Nick Carter's solo release. The group was not happy with this. Ergo, probably not their idea.


And that's my twocents


Someone is into Backstreet. Why would the label release a greatest hits record to capatilize on a solo album that was coming out a year later. Don't understand. Neither did the record buying, who totally passed on Nick's album and I don't think fully embraced the hits set. When you consider it's a hits set from CDs that sold million and millions and is from a group who was wanning in popularity, it was a disaster in the making. .



nod A bad business decision all around.


BTW, If Carter's actually going through with that 2nd solo album, I hope to God he gets help from someone who actually knows what they're doing this time around. The first one made me barf
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Reply #49 posted 11/08/04 2:30am

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bsbd2luvr said:

VinnyM27 said:



Someone is into Backstreet. Why would the label release a greatest hits record to capatilize on a solo album that was coming out a year later. Don't understand. Neither did the record buying, who totally passed on Nick's album and I don't think fully embraced the hits set. When you consider it's a hits set from CDs that sold million and millions and is from a group who was wanning in popularity, it was a disaster in the making. .


The way I understand it, the Backstreet Boys had been frustrated with Jive Records for a long time, especially since *NSYNC signed on. They got fed up with the competitive aspect of recording for Jive, and since a greatest hits record counted for one of the records they needed to fulfill their contract with the label, they agreed to release one as a way of being able to bail faster. And you will recall that after Nick Carter's solo album came out, the group filed suit against Jive Records because they missed the deadline on the next group album, thanks to Jive's insistence that Nick record his solo album first. I think Nick joined onto the suit because he was upset with the way Jive handled his record, seeing as it came out a week before Justin Timberlake's album, and Justin was clearly getting a bigger slice of the promotional pie. So the legal issues are part of the reason why four years have gone by since the release of their most recent studio album. But they're coming back for Chapter Two, and I've definitely missed them. There aren't many singers on the charts these days. I've seen BSB in concert, and they are definitely the real thing.


You have no idea how happy you've just made me. I'm sure you're aware of how hard it is to find a BSB fan who's able to think beyond "Like OMFG Nick's so cute! I wonder if he'd marry me LOL!"

I've been to a concert too. In spite of the nosebleed seats, I enjoyed it. And as far as I've been able to tell -they rarely, if ever, lipsynched. Take that, Britney. razz
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Reply #50 posted 11/08/04 6:43am

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Reply #51 posted 11/08/04 9:07am

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Okay, here's a question. Many artists have collections without ever being super popular. They're more for giving an introduction to an artist with a lot of importance, but not necessarily a lot of mainstream attention. Things like Singles packages or Anthologies for bands like The Cure or Devo or something like that. Do you think that's cool? Is it mostly in the way they name their collection? i.e. Bjork calling hers a "Greatest Hits".

Singles collected is the way to go. If you think about it, that's what Britney's really was. Just because they paid for all that airplay doesn't mean it was a hit. Singles collections made more sense in the days of the 7" (i.e. Joy Division's Substance), but even still, it's a more modest way of saying, "here's all the songs you might know from the radio."

Either way, it's kind of a label-ender (or a career-ender), and I can't figure out if it's sad or convenient that most of my favorite '90s bands have 2-disc best-of's with DVDs out right now (Live, RCH, STP, Pearl Jam (soon), Nirvana, even MM).
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Reply #52 posted 11/08/04 9:52am

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When I think of "Greatist Hits" I think of the elements "Earth, Wind & Fire" ; The Isley Brothers, the eigth wonder of the world Stevie Wonder, The Beatles artist who put a stamp on music, left their mark. Selling millions of records doesn't put you in a "greatest hits" status. Ashley Simpson sold 3 million+ albums and that stuff surely isn't greatest hits worthy.

B2k (why) hmm
Britney (I don't think so)
Backstreet (I'm sorry but I can only remember like one song from them "I want it that way" or something like that). When I think of Backstreet Boys, I think of Teddy Riley's R&B group BlackStreet (group that came out before BSB) and I think "wow they really didn't have to think much to get that group name"
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Reply #53 posted 11/08/04 9:20pm

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cnutty77 said:

When I think of "Greatist Hits" I think of the elements "Earth, Wind & Fire" ; The Isley Brothers, the eigth wonder of the world Stevie Wonder, The Beatles artist who put a stamp on music, left their mark. Selling millions of records doesn't put you in a "greatest hits" status. Ashley Simpson sold 3 million+ albums and that stuff surely isn't greatest hits worthy.

B2k (why) hmm
Britney (I don't think so)
Backstreet (I'm sorry but I can only remember like one song from them "I want it that way" or something like that). When I think of Backstreet Boys, I think of Teddy Riley's R&B group BlackStreet (group that came out before BSB) and I think "wow they really didn't have to think much to get that group name"



The name supposedly comes from the "Backstreet Market -which is a cool hang out ofr the teens in Orlando."

Rumour has it, it's actually the name of a gay bar in Atlanta. Go figure.
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Reply #54 posted 11/09/04 12:10am

Stripe

The English boyband "Blue"! They're gonna release a "Best Of kinda thing" this November and I think - "What the f..., no songs - need money?"
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Reply #55 posted 11/09/04 3:47am

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cnutty77 said:

Backstreet (I'm sorry but I can only remember like one song from them "I want it that way" or something like that). When I think of Backstreet Boys, I think of Teddy Riley's R&B group BlackStreet (group that came out before BSB) and I think "wow they really didn't have to think much to get that group name"



no actually BSB was out in like 95-96 they were big in europe but they hit jackpot in america around 98 with backstreets back
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Reply #56 posted 11/09/04 3:51am

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meow85 said:

ABeautifulOne said:


2.Backstreet Boys/4-5 years is not the greatest!!!!!



Point 1: As of the release of "Backstreet Boys:The Hits -Chapter One" they'd been together for eight years. In case you were curious, they still haven't broken up, so now it's been eleven.

Point 2: Th release of the "greatest hits" compilation was a decision by management to capitalize on Nick Carter's solo release. The group was not happy with this. Ergo, probably not their idea.



on point no.1:i was speaking of their american years of being out and its been 6 years if theyve been out since 98 in america

on point no.2:i do recall them putting out the greatest hits because of AJ's drinking problem and when they cancelled the tour they decided to put out the hits to make money sincethe hadnt got any on tour
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Reply #57 posted 11/09/04 4:31am

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Reply #58 posted 11/09/04 5:19pm

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ABeautifulOne said:

meow85 said:




Point 1: As of the release of "Backstreet Boys:The Hits -Chapter One" they'd been together for eight years. In case you were curious, they still haven't broken up, so now it's been eleven.

Point 2: Th release of the "greatest hits" compilation was a decision by management to capitalize on Nick Carter's solo release. The group was not happy with this. Ergo, probably not their idea.



on point no.1:i was speaking of their american years of being out and its been 6 years if theyve been out since 98 in america

on point no.2:i do recall them putting out the greatest hits because of AJ's drinking problem and when they cancelled the tour they decided to put out the hits to make money sincethe hadnt got any on tour


confused They didn't cancel the tour. They took a month or so off so AJ could get dried out, then re-scheduled the shows. They lost a bit of money because of the time off, but still made a boatload of $$$
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