Oh, and what's yer fave Stones album? My money's on Let It Bleed; Gimme Shelter has one of the best inros in rock, ever

RocknRollDave said:

Exile on main street. Rubbish how? On guitar?

nikkhendrix said:

Yeah. Well, watching the DVDs, he seems to do nothing for ages, then he pipes up with an out of tune solo. His slide stuff is great, though, to give the poor man a break.

Ron Wood and keith are all about GROOVE and FEEL more than technical competance.....everheard Keiths solo in 'ain't to proud to beg' off 'its only rock 'n' roll'?
UGGGGHHHHH.....

True. Very true. Still, I think Keef is waaaaay ahead of Ron in the groove stakes.


Fave song?


I think I have to go for Do Do Do D (Heartbreaker)..

RocknRollDave said:

I wouldn't say Ronnie Wood is rubbish. He's a competent sideman. He's not in the same league as Brian Jones or Mick Taylor.

Mick Taylor is the best guitar player the stones ever had.....by some margin..... By the way, did you ever hear the story that when keith and Mick were quarreling in the 80's, Mick wanted to bring in Joe Satriani to replace Keith?
Satch was doing guitar duties on Micks solo tour at the time.
Talk about a combination that would NEVER have worked.....Satch in the stones UGGGGGHHHHH
I do not think the rest of the stones would have done it anyway.....

Question: who plays the rhythm guitar on "Hot Stuff"...is that Keef?

And yes, the "Gimme Shelter" intro is subtlely powerful. It's perfect.

nikkhendrix said:

Funny you mention the Satch thing, cos I was just reading a Stones biog, and it was the first I heard of him playing with Jagger. Satch with the Stones would be the bigger mismatch in musical history.


I think Mick Taylor is the best guitarist the Stones have had.

Have any of you heard any of his post-Stones output? I'm curious to know if it's any good or not....?
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I heard his first solo album. He is not much of a song writer. Guitar playing was stellar , as you would imagine.

Favourite album is Beggars Banquet and i think its their best from start to finish. My second fave is Goats Head Soup, real sleazy rock n roll with some great ballads in there too. Exile is overrated with too much filler, the skip button always comes in handy.

nikkhendrix said:

I've seen some concert footage from the mid-seventies and Mick was the best guitarist the Stones ever had. It was also at the height of the heroin, party days and he couldn't hang after the tour. He went on to do some other music but I've never heard any of it.

RocknRollDave said:

It's just you!!

My fav Stones albums are Let it Bleed and Some Girls.

Beggars Banquet is definitely my top Stones album, with Led it Bleed closely behind. Brilliant stuff. Not really a fan of any of the stuff with Ron Wood though.

Ronnie Wood is the ultimate rock 'n' roll guitar player,I believe he plays better solo guitar than Keith does,,,(not talkin' rhythm guitar here)
He used to be great in the Faces,and I believe he still got what it takes to be a Stone:attitude.Technically he might not be Steve Vai or Joe Satriani,to name a few,but he still grooves like the best...

WildheartXXX said:

Are we talkin' Ronnie Wood here,or are we talking bout our fav stones albums?

jkj10 said:

Surely not...?

Angus Young (AC/DC) and Slash are what I would call unltimate Rock n Roll guitarists.....I don't think their style would fit the Stones, of course, but there are TONS of better RnR guitarists than Ronnie. I reckon he only got the gig cos he always looked like he was in the Stones anyway - in other words, he looks the part, but he doesn't sound the part....

WildheartXXX said:

Exile IS overrated

too much filler, production too poor....Tumbling Dice, though - Nice job!

RocknRollDave said:

When you play in the Stones,the ultimate R&R band,you're one of the ultimate guitar players!Yes I love Angus,Yes I love Slash,but they just wouldn't fit in the Stones..If Ronnie wasn't any good,he wouldn't be playing rock 'n' roll for the past 40 years,would he?

Favourite Stones Album: Sticky Fingers. On guitar, Mick Taylor. Keith Richards is a Minimalist Genius Rhythm guitarist and will be remembered for this longer than any other guitarist I can think of.
"Get Your Ya Ya's out", is another favourite of the 'Stones.
Ron Wood, played on The 1st STEREO record ever made,1960
called "TRUTH". Jeff Beck band, featuring Rod Stewart, vocals, Ronnie on rhythm, and of course JEFF BECK,who by the way was inducted into the Rock & Roll hall of Fame in 1965.

FLUX said:

Beck inducted in '65???

jkj10 said:

Jeff Beck, you got it !

FLUX said:

I thought you had to be in the music biz for 25 years,before you get inducted in the R&R music hall of fame...Did he start in '40?????

jkj10 said:

Judging by the wrinkles and creases on his face, I wouldn't rule it out as a possibility...











By the way, I still think Ronnie's a rubbish lead guitarist.



Keith is a sloppy player, sometimes, maybe down to drink/ drugs or whatever, but when he is on form, he is truly original and brings that much-mentioned FEEL to the table. Ronnie's guitar sound on stage is as thin and weedy as he is himself.

jkj10 said:

RocknRollDave said:



Yeh, i went and checked my sources, Tell me if you find otherwise, but in an interview I heard Jeff Beck say he was inducted, with the "Yarbirds", in ' 65.

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jkj10 said:

The Yardbirds didn't play in the 40's either...Did the R&R music hall change their rules about inducting somebody?...Help us out here..

jkj10 said:

O.K., Jeff Beck, on The Letterman show : "So you were inducted into The R&RHOF.With The Yarbird's ..., in 1965, when you visited U.S. ?
Beck ; "yeh, that's right."
I just watched it again, but hey!, i'm gonna look into this further, maybe since 1965 the rules have changed.


Getting back on thread Ron Wood is in my opinion a great Slide guitarist,but i aint heard him play lead or rhythm nearly as well, which is curious as Slide Guitar takes a lot of talent and work.That's it.