Ok so i want have your opinion on some good feminist lyrics in music.

Some obvious to me are

Madonna: Express Yourself
Cyndi Lauper: Girls just want to have fun
Cher: Working Girl
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"No Man's Woman" Sinead O'Connor

"Better Be Good to Me"- Tina Turner
"What About" Janet Jackson
"There You Go" "18 Wheeler" Pink

Oh, and I love Madonna's "What if feels like for a girl"

It addresses how girls/women have to play down their talents and be demure to win acceptance. And how the term girl has devolved to a derogatory epithet.

lyrics go "When you're trying hard to be your best could you be a little less Do you know what it feels like for a girl?"

and
"When you open up your mouth to speak, Could you be a little weak "

The first time I heard this song I was almost moved to tears because it softly but powerfully conveys struggle for girls and women to move beyond traditional stereotypes of being fragile and frivolous.

Check out Queen Latifah, Ani DiFranco and MeShell NdegeOcello.

check out "spellcheck" it's really amazing

"Sister's Are Doin' It For Themselves"--Annie Lennox and Aretha Franklin

P Control - Prince

Slave2daGroove said:

LOL! Your advice was taken and the mistake in the title was fixed. Love that spellcheck!

Can you say HALF of Aretha Franklin's music.

Queen Latifah "U.N.I.T.Y" & "Ladies first"

Monica "Don't take it personal"

Aretha Franklin & Annie Lennox "Sister's are doing it for themselves"

Jill Soulble "I kissed a girl"

any hairy armpitted lilith faired get out of the dirty bath water performer....

and why did i think this title was "Feminist MUNCH!!!"

EMINEM?

Anybody ever listen to The Au Pairs?

Janet Jackson - Control & The Entire Control album "...got my own life, I wanna make my own decisions..."

Mya - Free "...single, sexy and sweet, makin' my own money..."

24K - Don't Go There

Kelly Clarkson - Miss Independent

702 - Where My Girls At?

Aaliyah - More Than A Woman

Destiny's Child - Independent Women (Part I)

Annie Lennox - Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves

Chaka Khan - I'm Every Woman

Whitney Houston - I'm Every Woman

Queen Latifah - Ladies First / U.N.I.T.Y.

u really need to check out

LE TIGRE

with Kathleen Hanna (ex-Bikini Kill)

They have released three albums (self-titled, Feminist Sweepstakes and the recently released This Island), an ep (From The Desk Of Mr Lady) and a remix album (Remixes).


Very cool stuff.

Rock 'n' roll with drum machines and keyboard riffs.

SynthiaRose said:

That's such a powerful song.

DavidEye said:

Yes, that's all good and that but, when we gonna start working on the stereotypes of men too? I'm not saying we men have it the same as women, but a stereotype is a stereotype, whoever it is aimed at.

I get sick of all these " all men are b*stards" comment I see on the org...Am I wrong or what?
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Do you people really consider some of these songs mentioned here "feminist"? Seriously?

Unfortunately, no.

But I'll just call one song out: Miss Independent by Kelly Clarkson.

Sorry, JanFan4L, but this song is insulting.

It essentially suggests that women who act all tough and independent willchange once they fall in love. That every independent girl is just looking for the right man to change her into soft puddy who'll want her doors opened for her and a big strong man to rescue her.

Lyrics go "WHAT HAPPENED TO MISS INDEPENDENT ... ooh, she fell in love."

The words actually mock female independence.

RocknRollDave said:

Women calling men bastards is the least of male problems.
Men degrade themselves by associating manhood with primitive charasterics like mindless sex, rough philistine behavior, and lack of manners.

Indeed songs of male empowerment are needed. Hopefully they will celebrate the need to rise above such images. Men are not their d*cks alone, as some pop culture art portrays.