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PrintableAnxiety said: GrayKing said: le sigh....
i'd like Eminem a lot more if his attacks were more scathing and original. more like that Mariah song someone posted awhile back. he too often goes for the easy targets, and the easy jokes at that. like i need Eminem to tell me boy bands are lame. or that MJ's a pedophile and his hair caught on fire. or that George W. Bush sucks as a president. gee, what next.... ripping janet's nipple a new one, or bashing ashlee simpson for lip-synching? hell, i wish he'd even go back to fag-bashing. that would at least set his "controversies" apart from your run-of-the-mill Jay Leno monologue.  now THERE'S some good criticism.  I liked him until he got to big and USA Today called him, "The King Of Rap." That's just ridiculous, I guess their going by sales? Anyway, the song is not one of his best but it's more about the message. The video is excellent...sort of wish Prince did something like that. - Mr. Man perhaps, instead of the weaker, light hearted, Cinamon Girl. | |
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goat2004 said: Anxiety said: now THERE'S some good criticism. I liked him until he got to big and USA Today called him, "The King Of Rap." That's just ridiculous, I guess their going by sales? Anyway, the song is not one of his best but it's more about the message. The video is excellent...sort of wish Prince did something like that. - Mr. Man perhaps, instead of the weaker, light hearted, Cinamon Girl. i don't buy the people who call eminem "the dylan of rap" or the king of rap or whatever. he's a clever lyricist, he's got a good schtick, he's done a lot of things right to be an effective pop star - but i'm sorry, the dude's no freakin' mega-genius. when he quits sucking on dr. dre's teat and when he starts putting music on his albums that doesn't sound like video game music, maybe i'll have a change of mind...but probably not by much. | |
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SassyBritches said: i always find it funny that when celebs promote dems they get praise and when they promote reps they get bashed. if that's some kind of machine at work i don't know what is.
Oh really? Look what happened to the Dixie Chicks when they criticized Bush last year.They didn't get alot of "praise",they suffered a media backlash. But what a difference a year makes.Now that people are starting to wake up and see Bush for what he is,it's not surprising that celebrities are getting praised for bashing him.What I find most amazing is the fact that there aren't too many celebrities lining up to defend Bush,or to counter the anti-Bush attacks with an attack of their own. | |
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The song was pretty unimpressive, but  to the Candy for the video. (or to whoever thought up the concept)"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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DavidEye said: SassyBritches said: i always find it funny that when celebs promote dems they get praise and when they promote reps they get bashed. if that's some kind of machine at work i don't know what is.
Oh really? Look what happened to the Dixie Chicks when they criticized Bush last year.They didn't get alot of "praise",they suffered a media backlash. But what a difference a year makes.Now that people are starting to wake up and see Bush for what he is,it's not surprising that celebrities are getting praised for bashing him.What I find most amazing is the fact that there aren't too many celebrities lining up to defend Bush,or to counter the anti-Bush attacks with an attack of their own. What about Madonna! "American Life" wasn't that terrible of a single (in fact, I love it). Madonna's singles used to always do well...until she went anti-Bush. | |
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EvilWhiteMale said: The video won't play.
I heard some of the song. It's a shitty track but I guess Bush-haters will love it. Eminem's an idiot though. He's getting all huffy and puffy, thinking that there's gonna be a draft. Sorry, it only plays on liberal computers. | |
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VoicesCarry said: EvilWhiteMale said: The video won't play.
Sorry, it only plays on liberal computers.  | |
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VoicesCarry said: EvilWhiteMale said: The video won't play.
I heard some of the song. It's a shitty track but I guess Bush-haters will love it. Eminem's an idiot though. He's getting all huffy and puffy, thinking that there's gonna be a draft. Sorry, it only plays on liberal computers. or computers with open minds ---------------------------------
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Most important thing is missing from this thread; M's words.
I tease him alot cuz of his haordo, but he is the most exciting MC to step forward since 2Pac. Here are the lyrics to Mosh; And to the Republic for which it stands One nation under God Indivisible... It feels so good to be back.. I scrutinize every word, memorize every line I spit it once, refuel and re-energize and rewind I give sight to the blind, my insight through the mind I exercise my right to express when I feel it's time It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as I say to fight, you take it as I'mma whip someone's ass If you don't understand, don't even bother to ask A father who has grown up with a fatherless past Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has Or at least shows no difficulty multi-task And in juggling both perhaps mastered his craft Slash entrepreneur who has held onto few more rap acts Who's had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half Of his career typical manure moving past that Mr. kisses ass crack, he's a class act Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back [Chorus:] Come along follow me as I lead through the darkness As I provide just enough spark that we need to proceed Carry on, give me hope, give me strength Come with me and I won't steer you wrong Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog To the light at the end of the tunnel We gonna fight, we gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march Through the swamp, we gonna mosh through the marsh Take us right through the doors (c'mon) All the people up top on the side and the middle Come together lets all bomb and swamp just a little Just let it gradually build from the front to the back All you can see is a sea of people some white and some black Don't matter what color, all that matters we gathered together To celebrate for the same cause don't matter the weather If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better They ain't gonna stop us they can't, we stronger now more than ever They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know Stomp, push, shove, mush, Fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home (c'mon) [Chorus] Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us Mosh pits outside the oval office Someone's tryina tell us something, Maybe this is god just sayin' we're responsible For this monster, this coward, That we have empowered This is Bin Laden, look at his head noddin' How could we allow something like this without pumping our fists Now this is our final hour Let me be the voice in your strength and your choice Let me simplify the rhyme just to amplify the noise Try to amplify the times it, and multiply by six... Teen million people, Are equal at this high pitch Maybe we can reach alqueda through my speech Let the president answer a higher anarchy Strap him with an Ak-47, let him go, fight his own war Let him impress daddy that way No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our own soil No more psychological warfare, to trick us to thinking that we ain't loyal If we don't serve our own country, we're patronizing a hero Look in his eyes its all lies The stars and stripes, they've been swiped, washed out and wiped And replaced with his own face, Mosh now or die If I get sniped tonight you know why, Cause I told you to fight. [Chorus] And as we proceed, To Mosh through this desert storm, In these closing statements, if they should argue Let us beg to differ As we set aside our differences And assemble our own army To disarm this Weapon of Mass Destruction That we call our President, for the present And Mosh for the future of our next generation To speak and be heard Mr. President, Mr. Senator Do you guy's hear us...hear us... Commentary from the site that hosts the video; Eminem's Mosh Music Video - Directed by GNN's Ian Inaba Directors Note: Most Americans are well aware that in 2000, the presidential election was decided by 537 votes. From hanging chads to the hourly updates of the manual recount, this story was obsessively covered by the mainstream press. However, what wasn’t covered was what journalist Greg Palast discovered that thousands of primarily minority voters were scrubbed from the voter registry in Florida and prevented from potentially changing the course of America’s turbulent last four years. By the spring of 2004 all around the country, groups from both sides of the aisle were organizing and activating plans to impact the coming presidential election from MoveOn to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Here at GNN we were finishing our book, True Lies , two related documentary projects and barely had enough time for our own attempt of an online voter registration campaign. Through Palast’s reporting and our own investigations into electronic voting machines and the crossover campaign that defeated Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, we became increasingly aware of the fallibility of elections and the fragile state of America’s most fundamental democratic process. We also knew the potential power of the youth vote. With more than 55 million voters between the ages of 18 and 35, this demographic group accounts for 36% of the total eligible voters in the U.S. And as witnessed in 2000 it all comes down to who shows up to vote on election day. So on the eve of one of the most spirited elections in recent times, it’s time to try and turn out the vote. As a music video director, ideas for videos usually come independent of the song and are then adapted to fit the timing and lyrics of the featured track. I initially developed a concept for this video in June 2004 and contacted Interscope shortly after to find out what artists in their roster would be releasing albums near the election. The goal was to make a video that inspired young people to vote because they too often disregard it as a powerless exercise. To show them that political decisions do impact their daily lives and that voting is the most powerful act we all have to voice our opinion and effect change. And to educate and reiterate the point that whether or not people want to accept it, there are forces in play that attempt to suppress the youth and minority vote. When I got the callback that our favorite conspirator of controversy, Eminem would be releasing an album in November, I knew we had the potential to say something that would be heard by the masses. And after hearing the song later that month it seemed Mr. Mathers had also been in the lab concocting his own plans for the election and it was precisely the anthem I had been looking for. So with less than six weeks to deliver we put together a team and forgot about what it meant to sleep. In order to produce animation for a song that runs 5:20 in just over 5 weeks we were going to need a lot of green tea and mate and a little help from Marshall himself. This video was made possible by a team of artists who came together inspired by a song and video that might be able to effect the next four years of all of our lives. Two years ago, this video would not have been approved by a single record label. A year ago it would never had the possibility of being played on television. But with the changing tide of public sentiment marked by the success of our last video for Chronic Future, an anti-war message that made it into rotation on TRL we think it might just have a chance. Now, it’s up to the broadcasters. Will they ban the top selling musical artist for being anti-establishment while they allow other propaganda to air? Or will they finally allow an artist who has the courage to speak out to take center stage and utilize the airwaves for something other than typical celebrity fodder? Stay tuned here for updates on the unfolding antics and remember to show up and vote for you candidate of choice on November 2nd. | |
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I'm not a fan of hip-hop or Eminem but I gotta admit I thought the video was really good.
Question for you guys: Are they playing this video on MTV? Is it on high rotation? I don't have MTV/VH1/BET (long story) so I'm not up to date with what is getting played on there. If it's getting airplay, great. If it's not, then it's kind of a waste if millions of people don't see it before Nov 2nd. | |
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emilio319 said: I'm not a fan of hip-hop or Eminem but I gotta admit I thought the video was really good.
Question for you guys: Are they playing this video on MTV? Is it on high rotation? I don't have MTV/VH1/BET (long story) so I'm not up to date with what is getting played on there. If it's getting airplay, great. If it's not, then it's kind of a waste if millions of people don't see it before Nov 2nd. It aired for the first time yesterday on TRL,so it should start getting played more starting today "Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
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here's the link http://launch.yahoo.com/a...ID=1037847 I hate the fact they can play Em's video and not P's  |
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I was SURPRISED that he came out with this.
This is a very very good video!!! Cant wait till it reach the masses Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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What can I say? It is a most excellent video. |
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moderatorpennylover said: here's the link http://launch.yahoo.com/a...ID=1037847 I hate the fact they can play Em's video and not P's
 I thought they do play Prince's videos? | |
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I'm very impressed with this video & song.& that's saying alot since I'm not a fan of Eminem.. | |
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This video's excellent. It's dark (although not his darkest) and very clever. Most seem to be agreed on the video but a lot already seem to be knocking the the actual track. O.K., it's not genius but I think it's still fairly good at doing it's job (lyrically) in making a high profile public statement, esp. reaching the awareness of the younger youth masses, who no doubt are always one of the largest target groups ( even though they may not be old enogh to vote  ).
I guess all that Eminem does since The Slim Shady LP reaches everywhere
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I think whetehr you agree with his message or not,this is a pretty cool video. "I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill" | |
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Anxiety said: GrayKing said: le sigh....
i'd like Eminem a lot more if his attacks were more scathing and original. more like that Mariah song someone posted awhile back. he too often goes for the easy targets, and the easy jokes at that. like i need Eminem to tell me boy bands are lame. or that MJ's a pedophile and his hair caught on fire. or that George W. Bush sucks as a president. gee, what next.... ripping janet's nipple a new one, or bashing ashlee simpson for lip-synching? hell, i wish he'd even go back to fag-bashing. that would at least set his "controversies" apart from your run-of-the-mill Jay Leno monologue. now THERE'S some good criticism. i do like the song and video though  "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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