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PrintableAnxiety said: three damn words: KNOW YOUR SHIT.
i've seen other performers screw up, and i've also seen them bounce back from it and save the performance. hell, i remember one of the most impressive performances on TV that i've ever seen was pearl bailey stopping a live telecast performance during an awards show, midsong, to say "i'm sorry, that sounded horrible, let's try it again". people love that shit because it takes balls to do it on live television. the bottom line, as far as everything i've seen and everything i know and everything i've been taught about performing is this: DON'T DROP THE BALL. and that's just was miss thing did on SNL. she coulda told the band to stop and then started whatever song she wanted, and if she played it cool it could have been passed off as a tribute to elvis costello's performance and she woulda gotten some unintentional hipster cred. but she didn't. she stumbled off stage like a loser. i don't care whose "fault" it is - in my eyes, little bo peep showed that she doesn't have the chops to be a true performer. a true performer gets off on being on that stage so much, that a fuck-up like what happened on SNL isn't gonna stop them from winning the audience. Anx man, you are my boy  .
Stop and start over if you have to. Who cares if it's live t.v., the audience ain't goin' anywhere!  She just didn't use her head at all. And yes, if she loved to perform, she would try to give the audience something instead of leaving them hangin' like that. She simply doesn't care, and is only interested in looking good for them. BK made a great point too about her mistake.
It was the way she handled it that was so wrong. I knew just by watching her reality show that her voice was on the  side. That's all the more reason to make sure you know what you're doing up there! By just walking off, she's telling everyone there and everyone watching at home; "I'm nothing without my backing vocal, I'm outta here". It's the way she she handled the situation onstage that truly makes her an amateur. | |
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it just pisses me off that this kid screwed up such a plum opportunity, when there are so many really great up-and-coming performers out there - WITH TALENT - who would give their left arm for that kind of a chance.
but they're not jessica simpson's sister, so like whatever.  | |
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Anxiety said: but they're not jessica simpson's sister, so like whatever. Yeah that's what is shitty about SNL choosing her as a guest. Some of the blame should be placed on SNL for their shitty choice. | |
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OdysseyMiles said: Anxiety said: three damn words: KNOW YOUR SHIT.
i've seen other performers screw up, and i've also seen them bounce back from it and save the performance. hell, i remember one of the most impressive performances on TV that i've ever seen was pearl bailey stopping a live telecast performance during an awards show, midsong, to say "i'm sorry, that sounded horrible, let's try it again". people love that shit because it takes balls to do it on live television. the bottom line, as far as everything i've seen and everything i know and everything i've been taught about performing is this: DON'T DROP THE BALL. and that's just was miss thing did on SNL. she coulda told the band to stop and then started whatever song she wanted, and if she played it cool it could have been passed off as a tribute to elvis costello's performance and she woulda gotten some unintentional hipster cred. but she didn't. she stumbled off stage like a loser. i don't care whose "fault" it is - in my eyes, little bo peep showed that she doesn't have the chops to be a true performer. a true performer gets off on being on that stage so much, that a fuck-up like what happened on SNL isn't gonna stop them from winning the audience. Anx man, you are my boy .
Stop and start over if you have to. Who cares if it's live t.v., the audience ain't goin' anywhere! She just didn't use her head at all. And yes, if she loved to perform, she would try to give the audience something instead of leaving them hangin' like that. She simply doesn't care, and is only interested in looking good for them. BK made a great point too about her mistake.
It was the way she handled it that was so wrong. I knew just by watching her reality show that her voice was on the side. That's all the more reason to make sure you know what you're doing up there! By just walking off, she's telling everyone there and everyone watching at home; "I'm nothing without my backing vocal, I'm outta here". It's the way she she handled the situation onstage that truly makes her an amateur.co-sign! 
hey, OM, i been meaning to ask you, where is this avatar and sigline from. it looks familiar but i can't place it. bold underline edit. [Edited 10/26/04 11:22am] | |
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fantasyislander said: OdysseyMiles said: Anx man, you are my boy .
Stop and start over if you have to. Who cares if it's live t.v., the audience ain't goin' anywhere! She just didn't use her head at all. And yes, if she loved to perform, she would try to give the audience something instead of leaving them hangin' like that. She simply doesn't care, and is only interested in looking good for them. BK made a great point too about her mistake.
It was the way she handled it that was so wrong. I knew just by watching her reality show that her voice was on the side. That's all the more reason to make sure you know what you're doing up there! By just walking off, she's telling everyone there and everyone watching at home; "I'm nothing without my backing vocal, I'm outta here". It's the way she she handled the situation onstage that truly makes her an amateur.co-sign!
hey, OM, i been meaning to ask you, where is this avatar and sigline from. it looks familiar but i can't place it. bold underline edit. [Edited 10/26/04 11:22am] That Kurt Russell movie? When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, they act as a prism and form a rainbow. The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. Regardless of the day, I'm glad you were born. | |
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Thunderbird said: fantasyislander said: co-sign!
hey, OM, i been meaning to ask you, where is this avatar and sigline from. it looks familiar but i can't place it. bold underline edit. [Edited 10/26/04 11:22am] That Kurt Russell movie? which kurt russell movie? | |
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fantasyislander said: Thunderbird said: That Kurt Russell movie? which kurt russell movie?   | |
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fantasyislander said: Thunderbird said: That Kurt Russell movie? which kurt russell movie? The one with Lo Pan, silly!!! [Edited 10/26/04 11:46am] When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, they act as a prism and form a rainbow. The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. Regardless of the day, I'm glad you were born. | |
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acid reflux....now i think i've heard it all.  what's next for her then, a string of antacid commercials? | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: acid reflux....now i think i've heard it all.
what's next for her then, a string of antacid commercials? perfect! i can see it now! mylanta has a new spokesperson! | |
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fantasyislander said: Handclapsfingasnapz said: acid reflux....now i think i've heard it all.
what's next for her then, a string of antacid commercials? perfect! i can see it now! mylanta has a new spokesperson!my manager says mylanta.  | |
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BlaqueKnight said: I know that many of you have never actually seen how a sequenced performance is put together, so let me clarify this:
From what I see, it actually WAS the drummer's fault. Her unprofessionalism was her own fault, but cueing the wrong song is the fault of whomever is responsible for running the sequence. That is usually the job of the drummer or the keyboardist. Some sequencers trigger vocal samples; some artists use DAT (Digital Audio Tape) machines. Obviously, her drummer did. The drummer cued up the wrong song. Ashlee, not being a musician (or a real singer, but I digress) didn't catch that it was wrong at first, so she thought she had a longer intro than she actually did. When the vocals started without her, she realized the fuck up and did her little happy dance and history was written once again. Lots of artists do tracked shows. This is nothing new or specific to Ashlee. Even Prince has tracked portions of his performances in the past. She was just so very obvious about her mistake that it shows her lack of experience. All these excuses are really embarrassing. If she had continued on and picked up where the vocals were, it would have been a simple blurb across message boards "Did you see Ashlee Simpson miss her cue on SNL?" and "Ashlee Simpson lip-syncs!" Surprise, surprise. Instead, her "hoe-down" and leaving the stage caused all of this comotion. What she should be apologizing for is not being professional and finishing what she started. All these LIES about her voice and touring, the lighting being wrong, her tea being mango instead of "throat coat", her shoes being on too tight, her hairstylist combing her hair in the wrong direction and whatever else REALLY shows that she is miles away from being like her sister in the performance dept. great reply. Like you said everyone uses a sequence backing track during performances now. But she should've handled it better. I question wether her mic was even on for the second song. I mean it would've been easy to stop the tape and just start singing the song they wanted to play. | |
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Anxiety said: it just pisses me off that this kid screwed up such a plum opportunity, when there are so many really great up-and-coming performers out there - WITH TALENT - who would give their left arm for that kind of a chance.
but they're not jessica simpson's sister, so like whatever. That's exactly what pisses me off about this whole thing, too. | |
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I have devised a simple test to see whether she can sing or not. Hopefully this should resolve the Ashlee Simpson question once and for all.
Having been accused of heathen crimes, she is to be tied to this oaken stool down at yonder creek. The stool shall be lowered into the raging torrent, where it shall be held for longer than any earthly being might survive without the Lord's good air. Upon emergence, if she is expired, then we have been much mistaken, and she shall be buried as a Christian. However, if life should continue to pulse through her, then she is a witch, and I say we burn her at the stake!!! I think all will agree that this should settle the matter. (Oh wait, what about the whole singing thing....? Ah, to hell with it... I say burn the witch!!! Burn her now!!!  "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin | |
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deebee said: I have devised a simple test to see whether she can sing or not. Hopefully this should resolve the Ashlee Simpson question once and for all.
Having been accused of heathen crimes, she is to be tied to this oaken stool down at yonder creek. The stool shall be lowered into the raging torrent, where it shall be held for longer than any earthly being might survive without the Lord's good air. Upon emergence, if she is expired, then we have been much mistaken, and she shall be buried as a Christian. However, if life should continue to pulse through her, then she is a witch, and I say we burn her at the stake!!! I think all will agree that this should settle the matter. (Oh wait, what about the whole singing thing....? Ah, to hell with it... I say burn the witch!!! Burn her now!!! 
I say we let her go.... | |
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OdysseyMiles said: I say we let her go.... Hmmmmm..... That sounds like witch-talk to me.....!  "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin | |
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deebee said: OdysseyMiles said: I say we let her go.... Hmmmmm..... That sounds like witch-talk to me.....! burn him!! burn him at the stake!! oh, sorry OM, i just got all caught up in the moment.  | |
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OdysseyMiles said: leosqtpie said: A for this comment "if you know how to use your voice correctly, you wont wear it out".You are so wrong. there are alot of musicians who know how to use there voice's and have great technique that get the vocal cords torn by crazy ass touring.
Uh yeah, this is true, but Ashlee Simpson ain't "crazy ass touring". Metallica is "crazy ass touring". Ashlee's been doing spot dates to promote her record. She ain't flyin' all over Japan or Australia. It was evident on her reality show (soundin' like Courtney Love with a cold in the studio) that she does not know how to use her voice. lol the girl just can't sing period! she's off key. | |
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Ashlee grates my nerves as much as the next music lover, but c'mon guys, she actually wasn't as awful as I expected last night. From descriptions of the performance I thought she was out of key or something, but she pretty much sounded like I expected, almost like her record without the glossy filtering. At least she was in key.
The problem is she ain't a rocker. The difference between her performance and that of earlier performer Gretchen Wilson are paramount. I think it's telling that the little country block stole the show. Abd I was surprised Destiny's Child did such a lipsynced performance after all this scandal. There mics were live for like 20 seconds. |
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CynicKill said: Ashlee grates my nerves as much as the next music lover, but c'mon guys, she actually wasn't as awful as I expected last night. From descriptions of the performance I thought she was out of key or something, but she pretty much sounded like I expected, almost like her record without the glossy filtering. At least she was in key.
Whawha-what?! What performance did you watch? She made my dog howl. | |
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CinisterCee said: She made my dog howl.
you know you ain't even right! | |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: acid reflux....now i think i've heard it all.
what's next for her then, a string of antacid commercials?she could do commercials for placebos. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: Universaluv said: In a post titled, "I'm trying!" she wrote, "Seriously, I don't sleep much for a start, and with flying from A to B and flying all over the f---ing place, it's just getting to me. And it showed. Joke is on me, you seem to enjoy it." In response to her Lucky magazine quote, she posted, "I know what I said, but when I get as worn out and beaten down as I do, sometimes I do not have the energy or the voice left. I have almost lost it due to nonstop moving about. So it is the only option."
Boo frickin' hoo-hoo. Cry me a river. Then go out and get a real job, dummy. this is my favorite response  "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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VoicesCarry said: Simpson said she suffers from a chronic condition of "severe" acid reflux disease — a condition in which the stomach's liquid content regurgitates into the esophagus — and that it began acting up at around 6 p.m. on Saturday, causing her to "completely [lose] my voice."
i know that if i had ashlee simpson's career, my stomach liquid content would regurgitate into my esophagus. hell, that happens to me just watching/listening to her. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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I want some Boston Market sweet potatoes.  Lemme go. &  | |
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What gets me about all this is the BS she was selling about not lip-synching. Sure, P has lip-synched on a couple of TV performances when he was having vocal problems (and he almost always has his bands parts pre-recorded for these, to prevent live TV screw-ups), but stays away from it in concert, which is his hard stance. Lots of artists do this, but Ashlee had to act like she NEVER would do such a thing (even though its pretty obvious that she always does).
To add to it, she did that whole retarded dance, then tried to start blaming everything else possible. 
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SPeaking of bad SNL stuff, is it just me, or does the guy impersonating Bush sound NOTHING like him??? Terrible!
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JediMaster said: SPeaking of bad SNL stuff, is it just me, or does the guy impersonating Bush sound NOTHING like him??? Terrible!
they lost their stranglehold on good dubya impersonations when will ferrell left the show. | |
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I still want to know when SNL started allowing lip synching???
Until J.Lo I never saw anyone do it on that show. THey should use this as oppty to take a high ground and forbid it from now.  |
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