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Reply #30 posted 10/25/04 8:45pm

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Isel said:

SassierBritches said:


yeah...i just think that for every person who doesn't like the record there is another person who does and three who haven't heard it. the album was obviously blacklisted from playlists...nothing else could have kept all nite of the charts. rnb junkie was never even released! slo love was never released! spendin' time with you was never released! there are at least 4 classic janet jackson hit songs on that record and, honestly, in my opinion the cd is a lot of fun. you hear what's hitting on radio today...i know you disagree but i think everything on damita jo is better than most stuff on radio.


I STRONGLY agree. Damita Jo never had a chance. I would understand,however, if Janet decides to something a little different for her tour than JUST support the album due to the backlash and all of the negative press. However, it's a shame, 'coz it's true that many of the tracks on Damita Jo are BETTER BY FAR than a lot of stuff on the radio. Janet should be proud of the cd. In fact, in all honesty, I like Damita Jo better than All4You.


I agree on DJ being better than AFY. I swore I wasn't going to post since I'm so busy and tried but did I miss something? Did Janet perform at the begining? Or was the whole thing her getting an award. Suck! Oh well!
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Reply #31 posted 10/25/04 9:01pm

Isel

VinnyM27 said:

Isel said:



I STRONGLY agree. Damita Jo never had a chance. I would understand,however, if Janet decides to something a little different for her tour than JUST support the album due to the backlash and all of the negative press. However, it's a shame, 'coz it's true that many of the tracks on Damita Jo are BETTER BY FAR than a lot of stuff on the radio. Janet should be proud of the cd. In fact, in all honesty, I like Damita Jo better than All4You.


I agree on DJ being better than AFY. I swore I wasn't going to post since I'm so busy and tried but did I miss something? Did Janet perform at the begining? Or was the whole thing her getting an award. Suck! Oh well!


Janet didn't perform. sad Destiny's Child was GREAT. And Elton John was good. And Jermaine Dupri performed with Chingy. A country western band performed, too, but they made me a little nervous. I'm not a HUGE country western fan. After Janet received her award, I didn't watch the show anymore coz all I wanted to see was Janet. biggrin
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Reply #32 posted 10/25/04 11:00pm

JANFAN4L

Random thoughts and observations on the "Americ... Radio Music Awards":

Kelly Rowland was looking like Damita Jo for real! She sure does take a lot of beauty tips from the Janet hair and make-up school.

LOL @ Jordan Knight cheesin' at Beyoncé.

LOL @ the female MC (not rapper) wrongly pronouncing Sylvester Stallone's name as "Sylvester TALLONE"!?! LOL!!

Wow. Power 106's Big Boy lost a lot of weight.

Every performance was wack.

How is Ursher nominated for a hip hop award? And why do award shows continually do this? So far, I've seen Ursher, Sisqó and TLC wrongly placed in that category in award shows over the years. HELLO, THEY'RE R&B!

Was it just me or when Pussycat Dolls came out to present hardly anyone knew their celebrity status and you could feel the murmuring in the crowd? lol

idea2 Ephiphany idea2: Gretchen Wilson and Big & Rich are to country music what Trina, Li'l Jon & The Ying Yang Twins are to rap.

WILLIAM HUNG has sophomore CD out... NEED I SAY MO'?! Ashlee, there's hope for you yet.

Speaking of Ashlee, her live performance was lame and embarrassing. It was hard for me to watch her. Double worse was her chit-chat with lame a** Carson Daly. Two lame people holding an interview together -- it was a disaster from the start.

And I'm not buying the "Acid RE-Flux" spiel.

Overall, heads didn't know where they were tonight. Janet summed up it greatly in her speech: "Thank you, American, err!...Radio Music Awards!" LMAO!!!!

Another "music" awards show down the sh**ter.

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[Edited 10/25/04 23:16pm]
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Reply #33 posted 10/26/04 6:48am

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Reply #34 posted 10/26/04 7:23am

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i swear Janet should be singing "goodies" and not Ciara....as much as that song gets on my nerves....Janet needs to get out of the 90's.....update her shit...



oh..i didn't watch the show...i just wanted talk about Janet. smile
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Reply #35 posted 10/26/04 7:38am

CinisterCee

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i swear Janet should be singing "goodies" and not Ciara....as much as that song gets on my nerves....Janet needs to get out of the 90's.....update her shit...



oh..i didn't watch the show...i just wanted talk about Janet. smile


I think "Strawberry Bounce" was updated! I like that "Goodies" song.. hated it at first, but now I've warmed up to it.
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Reply #36 posted 10/26/04 9:23am

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VoicesCarry said:



It's a smart move, IMHO. She wants to leave this year behind, and she will, successfully. Look at Madonna and Reinvention - took the bad AL taste out of ppl's mouths pretty quickly.

i see what you're saying. if she waits a bit and does a "hits" tour she can come out smelling like roses in the summer. i just feel like it dismisses the work she put into this record. its like she's saying "i only support albums the masses like" rather than perservering and sticking by her record. she would still be a huge draw to venues if she toured to support this record and it would be the only way to get people to hear the record.

look at her brother...he hasn't toured for an album in a long time and his last commercially successful record (by mj standards) was the one for which he last toured...dangerous. i hate that these people get so big they can't be bothered to actually go out and do the work it takes to support a record. its like if its not an instant hit, they can't be fucked to bother with it.

ok...deep breath...lol

moving on...



Re-Invention was not a greatest hits tour.... if it was why did she perform 7 tracks from American Life? It's just that the rest of the songs were big hits that people label it a greatest hits tour. It was never billed as a greatest hits tour... just as Madonna performing her hits.

Kylie's show is labeled a greatest hits tour

Janet will do tracks from Damita Jo... and they will get a great reaction.

The greatest moment of Re-Invention was Nobody Knows Me... a track most people hadn't heard but everyone loved.
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Reply #37 posted 10/26/04 10:21am

Fleshofmyflesh

Fold up your tents, Kids.
Janet ain't shit (anymore.)
She lost everything because of her poor decision - we all know which one.
Every song she does now has to be overly laced with sex and how free she is and how much she likes to play with herself.
Enough already.
As Prince said himself, he already did all that.
Find a new gimmick.
Your shits whacked.
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Reply #38 posted 10/26/04 10:23am

kisscamille

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Fold up your tents, Kids.
Janet ain't shit (anymore.)
She lost everything because of her poor decision - we all know which one.
Every song she does now has to be overly laced with sex and how free she is and how much she likes to play with herself.
Enough already.
As Prince said himself, he already did all that.
Find a new gimmick.
Your shits whacked.


I agree completely.
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Reply #39 posted 10/26/04 10:24am

Fleshofmyflesh

kisscamille said:

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Fold up your tents, Kids.
Janet ain't shit (anymore.)
She lost everything because of her poor decision - we all know which one.
Every song she does now has to be overly laced with sex and how free she is and how much she likes to play with herself.
Enough already.
As Prince said himself, he already did all that.
Find a new gimmick.
Your shits whacked.


I agree completely.



Thanks Camille. Kiss kiss.
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Reply #40 posted 10/26/04 11:04am

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ehuffnsd said:

SassyBritches said:


i see what you're saying. if she waits a bit and does a "hits" tour she can come out smelling like roses in the summer. i just feel like it dismisses the work she put into this record. its like she's saying "i only support albums the masses like" rather than perservering and sticking by her record. she would still be a huge draw to venues if she toured to support this record and it would be the only way to get people to hear the record.

look at her brother...he hasn't toured for an album in a long time and his last commercially successful record (by mj standards) was the one for which he last toured...dangerous. i hate that these people get so big they can't be bothered to actually go out and do the work it takes to support a record. its like if its not an instant hit, they can't be fucked to bother with it.

ok...deep breath...lol

moving on...



Re-Invention was not a greatest hits tour.... if it was why did she perform 7 tracks from American Life? It's just that the rest of the songs were big hits that people label it a greatest hits tour. It was never billed as a greatest hits tour... just as Madonna performing her hits.

Kylie's show is labeled a greatest hits tour

Janet will do tracks from Damita Jo... and they will get a great reaction.

The greatest moment of Re-Invention was Nobody Knows Me... a track most people hadn't heard but everyone loved.

sorry, i should have been more clear. i went to the re-invention show (twice) and i'm aware it wasn't a greatest hits tour. i've said this in other threads. i was just suggesting that if janet did a greatest hits tour (with a few new tracks thrown in) it would be a huge success. i would prefer her to tour for this record, however, than do any kind of hits tour.
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Reply #41 posted 10/26/04 11:06am

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I used to LOVE Janet, but since Renee left she has been standing still! But worse she is around her crazy family. eek

Last night was the worst and yes sad to say Janet is OVER & totally jumped the shark.

For Janet to get a award and then all of a sudden, bring up some "Make a Wish" Kid eek ??? What a stupid Jacko Move! Who couldn't tell Jacko's Lawyer said "Ok, say this about kids to (show) that ALL us Jackson's are around 12 year old boys"

so lame

Janet what happened to you???? sad
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Reply #42 posted 10/26/04 11:09am

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orgjacko said:

I used to LOVE Janet, but since Renee left she has been standing still! But worse she is around her crazy family. eek

Last night was the worst and yes sad to say Janet is OVER & totally jumped the shark.

For Janet to get a award and then all of a sudden, bring up some "Make a Wish" Kid eek ??? What a stupid Jacko Move! Who couldn't tell Jacko's Lawyer said "Ok, say this about kids to (show) that ALL us Jackson's are around 12 year old boys"

so lame

Janet what happened to you???? sad

i don't think its all that...lol

janet was doing damage control. i still don't agree with the use of the make a wish foundation to do it...i think its very cheap...but i don't think its all that you've made it to be.
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Reply #43 posted 10/26/04 11:39am

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orgjacko said:

I used to LOVE Janet, but since Renee left she has been standing still! But worse she is around her crazy family. eek

Last night was the worst and yes sad to say Janet is OVER & totally jumped the shark.

For Janet to get a award and then all of a sudden, bring up some "Make a Wish" Kid eek ??? What a stupid Jacko Move! Who couldn't tell Jacko's Lawyer said "Ok, say this about kids to (show) that ALL us Jackson's are around 12 year old boys"

so lame

Janet what happened to you???? sad


Sometimes I really miss Rene.
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Reply #44 posted 10/26/04 12:04pm

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JackieBlue said:

orgjacko said:



Janet what happened to you???? sad


Sometimes I really miss Rene.
boxed



It will be alright, Janet. pat
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Reply #45 posted 10/26/04 12:23pm

JANFAN4L

Daamn, who passed out the HATERADE in this thread?!

Y'all hatin' for reeaaallll.


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Reply #46 posted 10/26/04 12:26pm

JANFAN4L

JackieBlue said:

orgjacko said:

I used to LOVE Janet, but since Renee left she has been standing still! But worse she is around her crazy family. eek

Last night was the worst and yes sad to say Janet is OVER & totally jumped the shark.

For Janet to get a award and then all of a sudden, bring up some "Make a Wish" Kid eek ??? What a stupid Jacko Move! Who couldn't tell Jacko's Lawyer said "Ok, say this about kids to (show) that ALL us Jackson's are around 12 year old boys"

so lame

Janet what happened to you???? sad


Sometimes I really miss Rene.
boxed


Yeah, I guess Janet really misses the infidelity, cheating and emotional abuse. Quick, Janet! Run back to Rene and salvage your career, and get gangbanged by James DeBarge while you're at it! rolleyes
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Reply #47 posted 10/26/04 12:29pm

JANFAN4L

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Fold up your tents, Kids.
Janet ain't shit (anymore.)
She lost everything because of her poor decision - we all know which one.
Every song she does now has to be overly laced with sex and how free she is and how much she likes to play with herself.
Enough already.
As Prince said himself, he already did all that.
Find a new gimmick.
Your shits whacked.


clapping OMG, so insightful! Whoop-dee-woo! woot! rolleyes
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Reply #48 posted 10/26/04 12:31pm

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JackieBlue said:

orgjacko said:

I used to LOVE Janet, but since Renee left she has been standing still! But worse she is around her crazy family. eek

Last night was the worst and yes sad to say Janet is OVER & totally jumped the shark.

For Janet to get a award and then all of a sudden, bring up some "Make a Wish" Kid eek ??? What a stupid Jacko Move! Who couldn't tell Jacko's Lawyer said "Ok, say this about kids to (show) that ALL us Jackson's are around 12 year old boys"

so lame

Janet what happened to you???? sad


Sometimes I really miss Rene.
boxed


Rene is a cunt.
'Cause your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance... well, they're no friends of mine.
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Reply #49 posted 10/26/04 12:46pm

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JANFAN4L said:

JackieBlue said:



Sometimes I really miss Rene.
boxed


Yeah, I guess Janet really misses the infidelity, cheating and emotional abuse. Quick, Janet! Run back to Rene and salvage your career, and get gangbanged by James DeBarge while you're at it! rolleyes


Rene’s a bastard without a doubt. I don’t miss him for what he did to or with Janet personally or professionally. It’s completely personal and since he was brought up I mentioned it. I don’t think any fan of Janet’s wants her to return to that life.
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Reply #50 posted 10/26/04 12:54pm

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Don't get me wrong I love me some Jacksons

Got ALL Janet Jackson-Damita Jo of her cds
Got 5 or 6 janet bootleg concerts
Seen every single tour in person

Got all of Mike's sony stuff

But they have run out of ideas.

Mike's run the save the world thing into the ground
Janet's run the sex thing into the ground.

Their dance routines look stale and dated when they do the same rountine with almost matching costumes on every tour.

Maybe they need to both find new direction and producers. Maybe losen up the control over the sound and image of each album and tour, and get fresh ideas.
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Reply #51 posted 10/26/04 1:38pm

VoicesCarry

orgjacko said:

I used to LOVE Janet, but since Renee left she has been standing still! But worse she is around her crazy family. eek

Last night was the worst and yes sad to say Janet is OVER & totally jumped the shark.

For Janet to get a award and then all of a sudden, bring up some "Make a Wish" Kid eek ??? What a stupid Jacko Move! Who couldn't tell Jacko's Lawyer said "Ok, say this about kids to (show) that ALL us Jackson's are around 12 year old boys"

so lame

Janet what happened to you???? sad


NOT EVERYTHING IS ALL ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON

Seriously, I didn't think of him or the scandals once during her speech. I thought it was really classy of her, since all the other winners could only think to thank their managers and stylists, apparently.
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Reply #52 posted 10/26/04 2:20pm

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JANFAN4L said:

Random thoughts and observations on the "Americ... Radio Music Awards":

Kelly Rowland was looking like Damita Jo for real! She sure does take a lot of beauty tips from the Janet hair and make-up school.

LOL @ Jordan Knight cheesin' at Beyoncé.

LOL @ the female MC (not rapper) wrongly pronouncing Sylvester Stallone's name as "Sylvester TALLONE"!?! LOL!!

Wow. Power 106's Big Boy lost a lot of weight.

Every performance was wack.

How is Ursher nominated for a hip hop award? And why do award shows continually do this? So far, I've seen Ursher, Sisqó and TLC wrongly placed in that category in award shows over the years. HELLO, THEY'RE R&B!

Was it just me or when Pussycat Dolls came out to present hardly anyone knew their celebrity status and you could feel the murmuring in the crowd? lol

idea2 Ephiphany idea2: Gretchen Wilson and Big & Rich are to country music what Trina, Li'l Jon & The Ying Yang Twins are to rap.

WILLIAM HUNG has sophomore CD out... NEED I SAY MO'?! Ashlee, there's hope for you yet.

Speaking of Ashlee, her live performance was lame and embarrassing. It was hard for me to watch her. Double worse was her chit-chat with lame a** Carson Daly. Two lame people holding an interview together -- it was a disaster from the start.

And I'm not buying the "Acid RE-Flux" spiel.

Overall, heads didn't know where they were tonight. Janet summed up it greatly in her speech: "Thank you, American, err!...Radio Music Awards!" LMAO!!!!

Another "music" awards show down the sh**ter.

.
[Edited 10/25/04 23:16pm]


But you forgot the best random observation of all....

Even though video called the radio star, radio is still not for the attractive! What the fuck was with that walking (or sitting, as the case was) piece of plastic that talked between the awards! Seriously, that was disturbing!
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Reply #53 posted 10/26/04 5:41pm

JANFAN4L

VoicesCarry said:

orgjacko said:

I used to LOVE Janet, but since Renee left she has been standing still! But worse she is around her crazy family. eek

Last night was the worst and yes sad to say Janet is OVER & totally jumped the shark.

For Janet to get a award and then all of a sudden, bring up some "Make a Wish" Kid eek ??? What a stupid Jacko Move! Who couldn't tell Jacko's Lawyer said "Ok, say this about kids to (show) that ALL us Jackson's are around 12 year old boys"

so lame

Janet what happened to you???? sad




NOT EVERYTHING IS ALL ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON

Seriously, I didn't think of him or the scandals once during her speech. I thought it was really classy of her, since all the other winners could only think to thank their managers and stylists, apparently.


Exactly, Voices.

And to Orgjacko: Your preceding post was straight up ignorant. The boy in attendance that night and her interest in charity didn't just drop out of the sky. If you paid attention to Janet's charitable efforts over the years, you would've known that JANET HAS BEEN AN AVID SUPPORTER OF THE MAKE-A-WISH FOUNDATION SINCE RHYTHM NATION 1814 WAY BACK IN 1989 -- OVER 15 YEARS AGO! Michael's current legal troubles have nothing to do with Janet's personal charitable efforts. What the hell did you think the "Rhythm Nation" album concept was about? Janet has CONTINUALLY supported childrens charities with proceeds from her tours and albums going towards Make-A-Wish, Dreamstreet (the organization, not the album!), America's Promise, Boys & Girls Clubs of America, A Place Called Home, Starlight, Watts-Willowbrook, United Negro College Fund (...hello, do you remember when she gave two girls The Rhythm Nation 1814 Scholarship back in 1990 to attend HBCUs?), etc.

Plus, Janet is an independent entity onto herself. She doesn't piggyback on any entertainer out there. She earned her Legend Award on the merit of her own work. Pulling Michael's name out of the sky in this case is asinine.

It's cool to dislike a celeb. We all have our qualms, myself included. But at least get your facts straight and KNOW CONCRETELY before you throw your opinion out in the world, especially when you're just making up sh*t.

Heads really need to start thinking before they type.
[Edited 10/26/04 17:47pm]
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Reply #54 posted 10/26/04 5:48pm

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SassyBritches said:

VoicesCarry said:



She's done with this album. She's gonna come back strong with a tour next year, and a new album in 2006.

that's just a bad move. people need to be reminded why she's been so popular for so long. i've said it before...tours are supposed to support albums not vice versa.




that's true, but touring to support DamitaJo would only remind people why she's NOT popular anymore lol
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Reply #55 posted 10/27/04 4:01am

DavidEye

Fleshofmyflesh said:

Fold up your tents, Kids.
Janet ain't shit (anymore.)
She lost everything because of her poor decision - we all know which one.
Every song she does now has to be overly laced with sex and how free she is and how much she likes to play with herself.
Enough already.
As Prince said himself, he already did all that.
Find a new gimmick.
Your shits whacked.



Ouch! lol


I don't think Janet is over,but she really needs to try something new.Get rid of Jam and Lewis and go in a bold,challenging direction.Sex-themed R&B albums are a dime-a-dozen these days.
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