http://www.nme.com/news/s...?ID=110271

SONIC YOUTH frontman THURSTON MOORE has penned the sleevenotes to the long-awaited NIRVANA box set 'WITH THE LIGHTS OUT', which will feature 68 previously unreleased recordings.

Billboard reports that Moore's notes will appear in the boxed set's 60-page booklet, featuring unpublished photos and an in-depth chronology.

Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain was a confirmed Sonic Youth fanatic - the two bands' 1991 European tour is chronicled on the video '1991: The Year That Punk Broke'.

Released on November 22, the four-disc set will feature 81 tracks including 68 previously unreleased recordings - rehearsals, outtakes, Kurt's home demos, as well as a DVD which is confirmed to have unreleased band home movies, live footage, rehearsal footage and 20 full-length video performances. A 60-page booklet will accompany the release.

The title is a reference to a lyric in 'Smells Like Teen Spirit'.

A source told NME.COM: "I’ve seen some of the footage and it’s amazing stuff. There’s a video of them performing at a friend's party with Kurt reading lyrics off a sheet of paper on the wall, footage of them covering 'Seasons In The Sun' in a studio with Kurt on drums and lots of other great stuff."

The artwork for the set is currently being put together, with the likely choice being a ‘landscape’ box, retailing in the region of £40-50.

I can care less about Nirvana, so this does not excite me.

NWF said:

then why'd ya click on the thread, ya silly goose!

Anxiety said:

I just did it to make myself clear about that.

Anxiety said:

Because in recent years it's become cool to kinda hate on Nirvana as if they weren't really a good band. Hey, at least we got the Foos out of it, right?

I never said that they were not a good band. I kinda dug some of their tracks back when they were the shit, but I'm nowhere near a fan or someone who thinks that they're friggin' legends or something.

And still The Posies get no love.





























"I can dream all day, I can dream all day....."

NWF said:

Who in tarnation are The Posies?

OdysseyMiles said:

See what I mean?



From AMG:

The Posies were one of the most popular power pop bands of the '90s; along with other revivalists like Matthew Sweet and Teenage Fanclub, they helped update the classic power pop sound for the alternative age, marrying bright, British Invasion-style melodies and harmonies to loud, grungy guitars and quirky lyrics. The Posies were centered around the partnership of guitarists/vocalists/songwriters Jonathan Auer and Ken Stringfellow, who began recording songs together in Auer's Bellingham, WA, home in 1988. That year, the duo self-released a cassette called Failure, on which they played all the instruments; sounding especially indebted to the Hollies and Simon & Garfunkel, it was soon picked up by the Seattle indie Pop Llama, and wound up getting the band a deal with Geffen. Getting a proper rhythm section in bassist Rick Roberts and drummer Mike Musburger, the Posies made their major-label debut in 1990 with Dear 23, which showcased their budding sense of popcraft with bigger-budget production.

When the Posies returned with a new album in 1993, their hometown Seattle scene had blown wide open. While the band didn't fit into any sort of grunge blueprint, they did toughen up their sound under producer Don Fleming, resulting in their harder-rocking breakthrough album, Frosting on the Beater (the title a masturbation reference). Paced by the college-radio hit "Dream All Day," the album earned an audience among both power pop and alternative rock fans (as well as introducing new bassist Dave Fox). The same year, Auer and Stringfellow backed a reunion of power pop heroes Big Star (namely Alex Chilton and Jody Stephens), a gig they would return to off and on for much of the '90s.
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C'mon, NWF, you gotta give 'em their props, since they were ALL huge New Wave fans! Kurt frequently put Duran Duran's "Rio" into their setlist, and positively gushed about The Cult! Dave is an unabashed fan of Gary Nueman and Prince, just to name a few!

JediMaster said:

I understand that. And I believe they also covered Devo too. But I didn't see any of this influence reflect in their music. So what can I say about that?

NWF said:

listen to some of the stuff on "Insesticide". They even have a New Wave version of "Polly" on there.

JediMaster said:

I think I will.

I guess that Courtney must have legal bills to pay.

I'm surprised they didn't choose to release this on 4 or 5 albums over the years. I'm definitely gonna buy it though.

BinaryJustin said:

this box-set is SO post-courtney. i think this was actually the design of the record label....columbia, isn't it?

i can't wait to hear this....

Anxiety said:

woops, i guess it would be geffen...

I can't wait for this and I've been waiting almost 10 years

I think it's cool Thurston Moore is penning the liner notes, he knew the band so he'll probably give us some interesting stories intead of the rehashed stuff music journalists keep writing about them

and a friend of mine has tons of Nirvana bootlegs so I can safely say there will be some great music on this box xet, some real hidden gems

BinaryJustin said:

isnt

NWF said:

Not new wave enough for you?

Personally, this is just the sort of thing I've been waiting for.

GangstaFam said:

It's not that, man. Everything does not have to be New Wave for me to like it.

It's just that I'm not a fan of Nirvana. I don't see why they're fucking "legends", while The Pixies have been the underdogs for the longest. And you know how much impact they had on Nirvana.

NWF said:

They're legends 'cause they changed the face of modern music. The Pixies are underdogs 'cause they didn't...on the surface. Like the Ramones, they had a huge influence but only on a ton of bands that later ripped them off and sold millions of records. Hey, "underdog" doesn't mean "loser." Although in the early '90s Sub-Pop culture, that wasn't a bad thing.

A dedicated New-Waver as yourself may appreciate the Japanese Hormoaning EP. I was just listening to it this morning, and it still holds up. Here's the tracklisting from allmusic.com:




Oh, jeez, you people got me started on Seattle bands...Mother Love Bone topic coming soon!!!
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NWF said:

I know. I just like giving you a hard time.

And why did U2 and The Cure make it huge and Joy Division not? Same reason. Some people just miss their chance when musical currents shift.

GangstaFam said:

They were around to make videos.

Sorry.

Thunderbird said:

Yes, but so were The Pixies.

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NWF said:

Grunge is gone. For me, they didn't change the face of much, and I'm sure that had Cobain not offed himself, they wouldn't be nearly as well-remembered.

They are an overrated band if there ever was one.

And now, Courtney is going to milk the memory of Kurt for all it's worth. New box set every few years, I'm sure. Kind of like Yoko commercializing John Lennon's memory.
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VoicesCarry said:

The advent of grunge helped usher guitar rock back into the mainstream, knocking pop music back ten years and effectively killing hair metal. For a good four years, I'd say, 1991-1995, grunge and the associated "slacker" lifestyle penetrated every aspect of pop culture, from music to movies to fashion. That all started with "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and was sealed when Nevermind knocked Dangerous from the #1 spot.

Thunderbird said:

Any lasting changes? Out with one fad (hair metal), in with the new.

VoicesCarry said:

We are only talking about ten years ago, so of course you're still hearing how Nirvana changed the face of popular music. Then again, we're still hearing that about Sgt. Pepper. It did bring the rise of more underground bands to the mainstream and opened the doors for smaller grunge labels (namely Sub Pop), and made it easier for punk bands to hit the mainstream scene in the mid-'90s, like Offspring, Rancid and Pennywise, from smaller labels (namely Epitaph). That brought non-Big Five labels to the public, and more successfully than Prince has done.

Now, it's not uncommon to see mainstream coverage of niche and indie bands, if you're looking for a lasting change. The point is that the "fad" came up from underground rather than being pushed down to the people from corporate America, like boy bands, dance acts, and the aforementioned hair metal. Does that answer your question?
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