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GGDeVille

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Guitarists who made me re-examine my playing

Below is a list of 10 guitarist who made me re-examine my playing or
study the guitar! These are in no particular order!

1-Ernie Isley – “Black”light basement parties/slowdraggin’ to “Voyage To Atlantis”
2-George Benson - “Breezin’”
3-Craig Chaquico – Picturesque mindscapes
4-Jeff Golub – Clean and technically proficient to “duurrrrty” crunching chords
5-Peter Frampton – Voxbox
6-Joe Satriani – Always With Me, Always With You” (Emaj 7/6, F#sus4, Badd4)
7-The Edge(U2) - Rhythm guitar example “Sunday Bloody Sunday”
8-Bo Didley – The Twang Machine, Gainesville Green, Alachua!!!!!
9-Vernon Reid – Speed demon
10-Jesse W. Johnson - The power of fast Blues and a tremelo bar to boot!!

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Reply #1 posted 10/21/04 8:07am

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Influences! I have a question. You ever find yourself totally ripping off your favorite players, then realizing they stole their style from someone else, so you're really stealing that guys's style? Isn't that weird?

That happened with me with Jerry Cantrell, Dave Navarro and Billy Corgan all stealing from Jimmy Page, mostly from the bridge to "Four Sticks." You can hear that in the solos to "Rooster," "My Friends," and the main riff to "Cherub Rock," respectively.
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Reply #2 posted 10/21/04 9:54am

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Thunderbird said:

Influences! I have a question. You ever find yourself totally ripping off your favorite players, then realizing they stole their style from someone else, so you're really stealing that guys's style? Isn't that weird?

That happened with me with Jerry Cantrell, Dave Navarro and Billy Corgan all stealing from Jimmy Page, mostly from the bridge to "Four Sticks." You can hear that in the solos to "Rooster," "My Friends," and the main riff to "Cherub Rock," respectively.


Example: George Benson
When I was a kid during the ‘70s, I heard George Benson. I did everything I could to copy his sound. At that time I had never heard of Wes Montgomery nor could I say that I had listened to any of his music. Of course now I know he was a big influence on Benson. Yet I still don’t own music by Montgomery and will listen Benson on a regular basis. Benson’s guitar playing showed me a totally new approach to music that I had not heard before. He may not have done anything new—he did make me notice what he was doing and it was new to me.
I hope this helps!

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Reply #3 posted 10/21/04 10:41am

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GGDeVille said:

Thunderbird said:

Influences! I have a question. You ever find yourself totally ripping off your favorite players, then realizing they stole their style from someone else, so you're really stealing that guys's style? Isn't that weird?

That happened with me with Jerry Cantrell, Dave Navarro and Billy Corgan all stealing from Jimmy Page, mostly from the bridge to "Four Sticks." You can hear that in the solos to "Rooster," "My Friends," and the main riff to "Cherub Rock," respectively.


Example: George Benson
When I was a kid during the ‘70s, I heard George Benson. I did everything I could to copy his sound. At that time I had never heard of Wes Montgomery nor could I say that I had listened to any of his music. Of course now I know he was a big influence on Benson. Yet I still don’t own music by Montgomery and will listen Benson on a regular basis. Benson’s guitar playing showed me a totally new approach to music that I had not heard before. He may not have done anything new—he did make me notice what he was doing and it was new to me.
I hope this helps!

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I remember guitaist Dave Fuzinski mentioning in an interview that early on, he deliberately tried not to listen to Hendrix, trying not to be influenced too much by him , only to find out later that a lot of the things Dave had absorbed over the years from other players like Hiram Bullock, originally came from Jimi!! I thought that was pretty funny...
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Reply #4 posted 10/21/04 10:46am

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Thunderbird said:

Influences! I have a question. You ever find yourself totally ripping off your favorite players, then realizing they stole their style from someone else, so you're really stealing that guys's style? Isn't that weird?

That happened with me with Jerry Cantrell, Dave Navarro and Billy Corgan all stealing from Jimmy Page, mostly from the bridge to "Four Sticks." You can hear that in the solos to "Rooster," "My Friends," and the main riff to "Cherub Rock," respectively.

For me, it happened with Hendrix. I found myself digging cats and learning their solos note for note, but they were all heavily influenced by Hendrix. In one form or another, be it David Gilmour of Pink Floyd to Brian May Of Queen, u could hear Jimi in their playing and their stylings. My lead guitar influences:
Hendrix
Santana
Jimmy Page
Eddie Hazel
Ace Frehley
Ernie Isley
Prince
Brian May
David Gilmour
Uli Roth/Scorpians
Randy Rhoads
Glen Buxton/Alice Cooper
Neal Schon/Journey
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him."
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Thunderbird said:

Influences! I have a question. You ever find yourself totally ripping off your favorite players, then realizing they stole their style from someone else, so you're really stealing that guys's style? Isn't that weird?

Yeah, most guitarists of this generation have no idea they're using the vocabulary of T-Bone Walker and Chuck Berry to a great degree.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #6 posted 10/21/04 12:58pm

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Example: Frank Marino of Mahogany Rush and Robin Trower. When I got into these cats, right out the gate, I realized how much of their sound BELONGED to Jimi. It was a turn off actually, even though I dig some of their songs. Jimi had many influences such as Albert King. Stevie Ray Vaughn went that route as well, only ending up on Hendrix Street. There are so MANY guitarists that I respect and admire such as Roy Clark and Charlie Christian and more than many, Robert Johnson.
SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Reply #7 posted 10/21/04 2:29pm

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marlon "the magician" mcclain (pleasure)-glide/future now
george johnson(bros johnson)-free yourself be yourself
lee rittenhour (early am attitude/strawberry letter 23)
leroy "sugarfoot" bonner-ohio players (what the hell/fire/alone/sweet sticky thing)
ann wilson-heart(crazy on you/baracuda/alone)
earl klugh-livin inside your love/heartstrings
stevie ray vaughn
b.b. king
eric clapton
tracy chapman-fast car/the promise
ritchie havens-handsome johnny
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Just a suggestion, but as guitarists if you really want to "re-examine" your playing in a very unique way, STOP listening to other guitar players for a bit.

If you're interested is jazzing up your playing, start listening to jazz piano, horn and vocalists to learn lines instead of licks.

You'll be surprised at how differently you'll start thinking about what you play.

tA

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Reply #9 posted 10/22/04 1:07am

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eric clapton does it for me
he is incredable,but not all of his stuff
go check"
five long years
stone free
presence of the lord(with blind faith)
marry you(with bb king)
little wing
why does love have to hurts so bad
river of tears(live version)
anything live,he is so powerful...
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Reply #10 posted 10/22/04 4:48am

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theAudience said:

Just a suggestion, but as guitarists if you really want to "re-examine" your playing in a very unique way, STOP listening to other guitar players for a bit.

If you're interested is jazzing up your playing, start listening to jazz piano, horn and vocalists to learn lines instead of licks.

You'll be surprised at how differently you'll start thinking about what you play.

tA

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Very true. Perhaps this isn't the best example, but I read that the riff in Satisfaction came when Keith Richards was trying to demo where the horns would go, so he played the horn line with a fuzz tone, as an approximation of what it would sound like. Of course, the horns never got added, the fuzz tone lines stayed and the song became a huge hit.
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Reply #11 posted 10/22/04 9:58am

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Supernova said:

Thunderbird said:

Influences! I have a question. You ever find yourself totally ripping off your favorite players, then realizing they stole their style from someone else, so you're really stealing that guys's style? Isn't that weird?

Yeah, most guitarists of this generation have no idea they're using the vocabulary of T-Bone Walker and Chuck Berry to a great degree.


BG thanks for the tip on “Cries Like the Skies”!
Boy do I love that song!!!!!
Hey guys don’t make sit at the “kiddie table for the my next statement!
My friends and family have been and are surprised at my ignorance about Hendrix’s music. I could do a complete bio on the legend—who he was and where he came from but have never listened to much of his work other than his commercially successful releases. I only own one cassette of his work; a compilation called The Essential Jimi Hendrix. Most of what I’ve learned/enjoyed of his playing comes from people that list him as influence. I definitely give credit to his genius and realize his place in music’s history. The guitarist that I listed are people whose careers I have followed and been able to listen to their development from one album/song to the next and put view them in the context of the current music landscape(at the time their music was recorded/released). Unfortunately with Hendrix, I never had that opportunity. The same files suit for Wes Montgomery, Santana, Guy, King, and Waters.
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Reply #12 posted 10/22/04 1:08pm

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RocknRollDave said:

theAudience said:

Just a suggestion, but as guitarists if you really want to "re-examine" your playing in a very unique way, STOP listening to other guitar players for a bit.

If you're interested is jazzing up your playing, start listening to jazz piano, horn and vocalists to learn lines instead of licks.

You'll be surprised at how differently you'll start thinking about what you play.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


Very true. Perhaps this isn't the best example, but I read that the riff in Satisfaction came when Keith Richards was trying to demo where the horns would go, so he played the horn line with a fuzz tone, as an approximation of what it would sound like. Of course, the horns never got added, the fuzz tone lines stayed and the song became a huge hit.
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Wow. The main riff in "Dream On" sounds like it was written on piano - one hand pedal tone, one hand melody - and it translates incredibly well to guitar. One time, in college, I was playing that and a girl stopped by and said, "I heard you playing No Doubt!" Arrgghhh...
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