Harlepolis said: gvnblkr said: HOLAAAAAH!!! Hola? Aight! PA-YOW! Shit, lets keep it real for a change here. The only reason why MOST Maddy's gay fans dig her so much is becoz of her fashion sense(she's a fashion chameleon) and the fact that they always see a BROADWAY NOVELTY ACT SHOW when they go to her concerts instead of seeing a real live pre4mance, not to mention her "stunts" which she's famous for(and the joke is she's conisdered bald & ambitous for pulling them ). Other than that shit, they declare "BORING" You know damn well as I do that if Maddy doesn't have ALL of that layered FLUFF on top of her skinny sick lookin' ass, those mofos wouldn't be around raving about her wack shit. Was that brick meant for me? Because I don't think you understood my POV. | |
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CynicKill said: gman1966 said: Please. many thought Madonna was black when she first came out. I'm not saying she's the most soulful thing out there, but she was getting a lot of radio play and no one knew who she was. Certainly you know SOMEONE who thought she was black when they first heard "Holiday"? I never thought that heffer was black nor do I know anyone I know ever thought she was black!!! PLEASE...what are you talking about....It's not like we are talking about Teena Marie here... There is NOTHING about that woman that we thought at least in the area I grew up in that she could be black. There is not one ounce of soul in that woman's voice. Nothing. That's what you guys thought not Brutha's and Sista's....Holiday was played on Black radio though I do remember that.... "Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown
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gvnblkr said: Harlepolis said: Hola? Aight! PA-YOW! Shit, lets keep it real for a change here. The only reason why MOST Maddy's gay fans dig her so much is becoz of her fashion sense(she's a fashion chameleon) and the fact that they always see a BROADWAY NOVELTY ACT SHOW when they go to her concerts instead of seeing a real live pre4mance, not to mention her "stunts" which she's famous for(and the joke is she's conisdered bald & ambitous for pulling them ). Other than that shit, they declare "BORING" You know damn well as I do that if Maddy doesn't have ALL of that layered FLUFF on top of her skinny sick lookin' ass, those mofos wouldn't be around raving about her wack shit. Was that brick meant for me? Because I don't think you understood my POV. Nah baby, I was just pulling yo leg. Thats a playful harmless brick | |
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Harlepolis said: gvnblkr said: HOLAAAAAH!!! Hola? Aight! PA-YOW! Shit, lets keep it real for a change here. The only reason why MOST Maddy's gay fans dig her so much is becoz of her fashion sense(she's a fashion chameleon) and the fact that they always see a BROADWAY NOVELTY ACT SHOW when they go to her concerts instead of seeing a real live pre4mance, not to mention her "stunts" which she's famous for(and the joke is she's conisdered bald & ambitous for pulling them ). Other than that shit, they declare "BORING" You know damn well as I do that if Maddy doesn't have ALL of that layered FLUFF on top of her skinny sick lookin' ass, those mofos wouldn't be around raving about her wack shit. Wow. That goes beyond generalization and into stereotyping. [Edited 10/5/04 14:17pm] | |
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Harlepolis said: SassyBritches said: um, sweetie, when you say "most" that means you indeed do make a generalization. You don't say, huh? If I really wanted to make a generalization I would've said "ALL" and got this shit over with. But I guess I can't win with ya'll folks, either way Ah well..... I was in right with ya all the way until this post - now THAT WAS a generalisation! | |
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Harlepolis said: VoicesCarry said: I thought "most" was indeed a generalization . Ok ya'll,,,,,EXCUSE my ignorance. I ment "SOME"! We cool now? are you gay? if not, then you shouldn't be making ANY comments on how gay people feel about madonna or why they feel that way. please keep your sweeping stereotypes and generalizations to you and your crew. um, thanks. | |
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I think Elton is going through menopause in all honesty.
On top of that he cant stand Madonna being the Queen of pop, he wanted to be the queen of pop, so it's all in jealousy. Case closed | |
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jayaredee said: I think Elton is going through menopause in all honesty.
On top of that he cant stand Madonna being the Queen of pop, he wanted to be the queen of pop, so it's all in jealousy. Case closed | |
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Fucking hell, this bloody thing STILL going?
Just like Madonna. | |
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Harlepolis said: gvnblkr said: HOLAAAAAH!!! Hola? Aight! PA-YOW! Shit, lets keep it real for a change here. The only reason why MOST Maddy's gay fans dig her so much is becoz of her fashion sense(she's a fashion chameleon) and the fact that they always see a BROADWAY NOVELTY ACT SHOW when they go to her concerts instead of seeing a real live pre4mance, not to mention her "stunts" which she's famous for(and the joke is she's conisdered bald & ambitous for pulling them ). Other than that shit, they declare "BORING" You know damn well as I do that if Maddy doesn't have ALL of that layered FLUFF on top of her skinny sick lookin' ass, those mofos wouldn't be around raving about her wack shit. if you really MUST go through life being so stupid, you really ought to try not to be so obvious about it... "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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bananacologne said: Fucking hell, this bloody thing STILL going?
Just like Madonna. looks like it took a licking and kept on ticking | |
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minneapolisgenius said: I love this thread.
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Harlepolis said: gvnblkr said: HOLAAAAAH!!! Hola? Aight! PA-YOW! Shit, lets keep it real for a change here. The only reason why MOST Maddy's gay fans dig her so much is becoz of her fashion sense(she's a fashion chameleon) and the fact that they always see a BROADWAY NOVELTY ACT SHOW when they go to her concerts instead of seeing a real live pre4mance, not to mention her "stunts" which she's famous for(and the joke is she's conisdered bald & ambitous for pulling them ). Other than that shit, they declare "BORING" You know damn well as I do that if Maddy doesn't have ALL of that layered FLUFF on top of her skinny sick lookin' ass, those mofos wouldn't be around raving about her wack shit. OKAAAAAYY!!!!! you better say that shit.....I totally agree,and I am Gay too. I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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If he wants diss on Madonna for that, he's dissing on probably way more than half of most 'artists' that go on tour ... | |
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gman1966 said: CynicKill said: There is NOTHING about that woman that we thought at least in the area I grew up in that she could be black. There is not one ounce of soul in that woman's voice. Nothing. That's what you guys thought not Brutha's and Sista's....Holiday was played on Black radio though I do remember that.... Seriously dude, it's not about the black or gay or whatever community. It was the common concensus during her first album that most people assumed she was black. No lie. It wasn't until people saw her video for "Burning Up" and especially "Lucky Star" that they had any clue who she was, even though she was getting a fair amount of airplay. Which brings me to one of my major gripes. Back then, people assumed unfairly that she had to be black cuz "her voice was too soulful and her tracks were too funky" to be a white chick. All these years later, it seems to be the thing to say if you want to look like you know something about music to diss her vocals. It's all bandwagon. If you personally don't like her voice, that's cool. You don't have to. But how so many people insist it's the Bible truth that she can't sing for shit is beyond me. | |
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SassyBritches said: Cloudbuster said: I just wish she would focus more on writing a decent tune rather than pissing about with producers who dress up her work with clicks, whirrs, beeps and other distracting gimmicks.
i understand what you mean but why is it a gimmick when madonna does it but not a gimmick when tricky, bjork, u2, radiohead or whoever does it? It's more of a personal want, really. I think Maddy is at her best when performing straight forward pop songs. Tricky and U2 I respect as artists but I'm not much into them so I don't give a damn what they do. Radiohead... well. Sometimes the clicks, whirrs and beeps are the songs, but I honestly think they do it in a way that manages to enhance their work rather than detract from it. Bjork? Yeah, I got "issues" with her songwriting, too. | |
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Tessa, SassyBritches & RipHer2Shreds,,,
You guys shouldn't read too much into my post, it ain't deep really. Coz acting defensive on me won't get you nowhere,,,I'm just being honest about what I see & feel. Should I suger-coat myself just for the sake of your pleasure? How do you demand people to have an "open mind" when you can't except anybody's opinion with an open mind? I'm not asking you to agree with me but do not accuse me of "generalisation" or "stereotyping" just becoz we are not on the same boat. C'mon now, work with me here. bananacologne I was in right with ya all the way until this post - now THAT WAS a generalisation!
Read that shit again bobo,,,,key word, read "IF" and then read "I WOULD'VE" and make your way though it b4 you join the crowd. Red Beans & Ricely Yours! | |
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GangstaFam said: gman1966 said: There is NOTHING about that woman that we thought at least in the area I grew up in that she could be black. There is not one ounce of soul in that woman's voice. Nothing. That's what you guys thought not Brutha's and Sista's....Holiday was played on Black radio though I do remember that.... Seriously dude, it's not about the black or gay or whatever community. It was the common concensus during her first album that most people assumed she was black. No lie. It wasn't until people saw her video for "Burning Up" and especially "Lucky Star" that they had any clue who she was, even though she was getting a fair amount of airplay. Which brings me to one of my major gripes. Back then, people assumed unfairly that she had to be black cuz "her voice was too soulful and her tracks were too funky" to be a white chick. All these years later, it seems to be the thing to say if you want to look like you know something about music to diss her vocals. It's all bandwagon. If you personally don't like her voice, that's cool. You don't have to. But how so many people insist it's the Bible truth that she can't sing for shit is beyond me. I think the problem is that Madonna's vocals have gone down in subsequent years. She's not singing the way she did on her first album or early tracks like "Who's That Girl". | |
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CynicKill said: GangstaFam said: Seriously dude, it's not about the black or gay or whatever community. It was the common concensus during her first album that most people assumed she was black. No lie. It wasn't until people saw her video for "Burning Up" and especially "Lucky Star" that they had any clue who she was, even though she was getting a fair amount of airplay. Which brings me to one of my major gripes. Back then, people assumed unfairly that she had to be black cuz "her voice was too soulful and her tracks were too funky" to be a white chick. All these years later, it seems to be the thing to say if you want to look like you know something about music to diss her vocals. It's all bandwagon. If you personally don't like her voice, that's cool. You don't have to. But how so many people insist it's the Bible truth that she can't sing for shit is beyond me. I think the problem is that Madonna's vocals have gone down in subsequent years. She's not singing the way she did on her first album or early tracks like "Who's That Girl". True. Of course, most of her fast tempo stuff is what put her on the mark. The ballad that I ever liked by her was Live To Tell. | |
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GangstaFam said: gman1966 said: There is NOTHING about that woman that we thought at least in the area I grew up in that she could be black. There is not one ounce of soul in that woman's voice. Nothing. That's what you guys thought not Brutha's and Sista's....Holiday was played on Black radio though I do remember that.... Seriously dude, it's not about the black or gay or whatever community. It was the common concensus during her first album that most people assumed she was black. No lie. It wasn't until people saw her video for "Burning Up" and especially "Lucky Star" that they had any clue who she was, even though she was getting a fair amount of airplay. Which brings me to one of my major gripes. Back then, people assumed unfairly that she had to be black cuz "her voice was too soulful and her tracks were too funky" to be a white chick. All these years later, it seems to be the thing to say if you want to look like you know something about music to diss her vocals. It's all bandwagon. If you personally don't like her voice, that's cool. You don't have to. But how so many people insist it's the Bible truth that she can't sing for shit is beyond me. Man I don't know what you are talking about....There only very few artists that most black people were suprised that they were white and that was Hall & Oates and Teena Marie..Damn sure was not Madonna...her voice sounding soulful please....this must have been in the white community... "Say it Loud - I'm Black and I'm Proud!!!" - Brother James Brown
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gman1966 said: Man I don't know what you are talking about....There only very few artists that most black people were suprised that they were white and that was Hall & Oates and Teena Marie..Damn sure was not Madonna...her voice sounding soulful please....this must have been in the white community...
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Al the concerts i have seen her in, whether taped or not.. she never sounds like she is lip synching.... her voice does sound like she strains it a bit... but whatever i guess...
She has a point, she dont usually trash people and was uncalled for by Elton. But then again, thats showbiz! The day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom - Anais Nin
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Harlepolis said: Tessa, SassyBritches & RipHer2Shreds,,,
You guys shouldn't read too much into my post, I ain't deep really. Coz acting ignorant on me won't get me nowhere,,,I'm just being stupid about what I see & feel. Should I suger-coat myself just for the sake of not embarrasing myself? How do you demand people to have an "open mind" when you know full and well that they don't have a mind at all? I'm not asking you to agree with me but do not accuse me of "generalisation" or "stereotyping" because what it clearly is is bigotry. C'mon now, work with me here; I'm a special needs person. couldn't have said it better myself "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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Tessa said: Harlepolis said: Tessa, SassyBritches & RipHer2Shreds,,,
You guys shouldn't read too much into my post, I ain't deep really. Coz acting ignorant on me won't get me nowhere,,,I'm just being stupid about what I see & feel. Should I suger-coat myself just for the sake of not embarrasing myself? How do you demand people to have an "open mind" when you know full and well that they don't have a mind at all? I'm not asking you to agree with me but do not accuse me of "generalisation" or "stereotyping" because what it clearly is is bigotry. C'mon now, work with me here; I'm a special needs person. couldn't have said it better myself Looks like I touched a sensitive nerve here to make you do all of that "post reworking" its cool tho. | |
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Harlepolis said: Tessa said: couldn't have said it better myself Looks like you touched a sensitive nerve here and got my psynapses firing and my brain cells working its cool tho. i've never felt this before glad to be of service "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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y'all are cracking me up! | |
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Harlepolis said: Tessa, SassyBritches & RipHer2Shreds,,,
You guys shouldn't read too much into my post, it ain't deep really. Coz acting defensive on me won't get you nowhere,,,I'm just being honest about what I see & feel. Should I suger-coat myself just for the sake of your pleasure? How do you demand people to have an "open mind" when you can't except anybody's opinion with an open mind? I'm not asking you to agree with me but do not accuse me of "generalisation" or "stereotyping" just becoz we are not on the same boat. C'mon now, work with me here. bananacologne I was in right with ya all the way until this post - now THAT WAS a generalisation!
Read that shit again bobo,,,,key word, read "IF" and then read "I WOULD'VE" and make your way though it b4 you join the crowd. Red Beans & Ricely Yours! Hmm...ok, done. Yep - You're right - it was shit! | |
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What did Madonna and Mariah say about each other? | |
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