superspaceboy said:

I think Mariah & Janet may disagree with you here
how can Madonna release a statement saying she doesn't diss other artists?
Has she forgotten her Jealous outburst against Mariah and Janet?
it's karma
and anyway it's Madonna!! she's not even a real singer! or respected artist

She' just basically a "menopausal Britney" really?
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GangstaFam said:

Well, I certainly think that the production of her albums has become more sophisticated over the past decade or so, but as we all know, a good studio guru can make ANYone sound great. I mean, you don't really think Madge's voice is hitting that high note in "Ray of Light", do you? Color me cynical, but I'm sure that was some studio wizardry right there.

VoicesCarry said:

So does Madonna.

Cloudbuster said:

Glad you said it CB and I agree with you. She's bored the hell out of me for years and I think she's the phoniest entertainer out there today. Elton may be having one of his famous tantrums, but he speaks the truth.

I just wish she would focus more on writing a decent tune rather than pissing about with producers who dress up her work with clicks, whirrs, beeps and other distracting gimmicks.

interestingly, she wasn't actually lip-synching on this tour, aside from a few backing tapes with the vocal effects on them.


unlike when i saw Elton John in 1999, supposedly just him and his piano, when there were all sorts of background music tapes playing throughout. synths, horns, hell even drums.


anyway, i like Elton a lot, but it's apparent that he must have a new album on the way for him to start throwing public tantrums again, and returning to ripping other celebrities new assholes. it's just par for the course...


really, i wish he'd go back on drugs. he was a lot more rational back then.

Though I agree that it's not mature for anyone to diss another artist in public, I can understand where Eltie is coming from. I've gone on forums and talked about lipsyncing and how it's not artistic to me. I mean Hillary Duff can't sing. She's the anti-christ. She NEVER sings live. Now look at Madonna, who's had a tremendous career and never lipsynced at the start of her career. Now she's on the same level as Hillary Duff. Sad.

CynicKill said:

which part didn't you understand?

madonna
did
sing
live
on
her
tour

SassyBritches said:

I'd say it was 60/40.

Harlepolis said:

HOLAAAAAH!!!

gvnblkr said:

Hola? Aight!

PA-YOW!



Shit, lets keep it real for a change here. The only reason why MOST Maddy's gay fans dig her so much is becoz of her fashion sense(she's a fashion chameleon) and the fact that they always see a BROADWAY NOVELTY ACT SHOW when they go to her concerts instead of seeing a real live pre4mance, not to mention her "stunts" which she's famous for(and the joke is she's conisdered bald & ambitous for pulling them ). Other than that shit, they declare "BORING"

You know damn well as I do that if Maddy doesn't have ALL of that layered FLUFF on top of her skinny sick lookin' ass, those mofos wouldn't be around raving about her wack shit.

gvnblkr said:

Hola? Aight!

PA-YOW!



Shit, lets keep it real for a change here. The only reason why MOST Maddy's gay fans dig her so much is becoz of her fashion sense(she's a fashion chameleon) and the fact that they always see a BROADWAY NOVELTY ACT SHOW when they go to her concerts instead of seeing a real live pre4mance, not to mention her "stunts" which she's famous for(and the joke is she's conisdered bald & ambitous for pulling them ). Other than that shit, they declare "BORING"

You know damn well as I do that if Maddy doesn't have ALL of that layered FLUFF on top of her skinny sick lookin' ass, those mofos wouldn't be around raving about her wack shit.

Harlepolis said:

gee...thanks for speaking for me. call me crazy but i sense just a little bit of a bias in your statement.

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jayaredee said:

Funnily enough Elton has a new album out soon.

twink69 said:

Did Elton himself write this post?

I think the comment should have read "Madonna doesn't rag on other people...anymore." I don't recall Madonna ever saying anything negative about Janet Jackson. Janet sorta did about Madonna, but even that was minor at worst (something to the effect of "If you can't say something nice, don't say it at all"). The exchanges between Madonna and Mariah - regardless of their nature - were hysterical.

kisscamille said:

I'm not a big fan of Madonna but I always like to know what she's up to. I actually thought American Life was okay. Not a great album but certainly better than Music. I just wish she would focus more on writing a decent tune rather than pissing about with producers who dress up her work with clicks, whirrs, beeps and other distracting gimmicks.

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[Edited 10/5/04 9:52am]

SassyBritches said:

No baby, you're an individual. I can't speak for you(or anybody else for that matter).

You sense a bias in my statment just as well that I sense everything that I said in my previous post about most of Maddy's gay fans. Right or wrong, thats my opinion.

P.S. mind you, I said "MOST", I didn't generalize.

i'd like to see that old queenie bitch sing and dance for almost 2 hours. whateva, treva.

Harlepolis said:

um, sweetie, when you say "most" that means you indeed do make a generalization.

SassyBritches said:

You don't say, huh?

If I really wanted to make a generalization I would've said "ALL" and got this shit over with. But I guess I can't win with ya'll folks, either way

Ah well.....

jayaredee said:

Hi-fucking-larious!! I love Elton John. And I'm glad Muse won that award instead. They rock!!!

If I may deconstruct Madonna just a bit, Madonna has always been a mainstay in the gay community, ever since her first record hit the airwaves and everyone thought she was black. It's hard to say if Madonna's fashion sense had much affect on little gay boys at that stage.

When it comes to icon-dom, it's hard to pinpoint what makes one and what doesn't. What is true is that you know one when you see one. Madonna was pretty much born one.

The problem with icon-dom is the tendency for an act to digress into camp, therefore diminishing their artistic merit. Madonna has digressed into camp many a time. It's almost safe to say that her "coolness" factor has suffered because of it. One critic argued that once an artist becomes a gay icon it's the kiss of death in terms of coolness. They also mentioned Marilyn Monroe and George Michael as two of the stars who have remained unscathed after becoming gay icons.
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RipHer2Shreds said:

I might have heard it second hand, but what I thought Janet said was that she knew people who worked for Madonna and "they" said she was a bitch. Madonna did her fair share of ragging on people but I don't think Janet was that big of a target. Mariah was, however.

Harlepolis said:

I thought "most" was indeed a generalization .

CynicKill said:

I never thought that heffer was black nor do I know anyone I know ever thought she was black!!! PLEASE...what are you talking about....It's not like we are talking about Teena Marie here...