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Reply #30 posted 10/05/04 6:59am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

So here's the deal. Manson's site used to carry a special 3 disk set. It had the hits CD, the DVD with all the videos, and an extra DVD with the (s)aint video on it. But it seems they sold out and don't know if they will get more. I think this is fucking stupid, especially with so many fans trying to get it.

However, I've been reading that some people are buying the Japanese version which includes the CD with a few extra tracks, a B-sides/remix CD, and a DVD with all the videos including Personal Jesus and (s)aint. It seems some people are ordering it for about $42 from Amazon Japan. So maybe the DVD can be played here. I'm waiting to hear back from Japan.


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a B-sides/remix CD

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Reply #31 posted 10/05/04 7:16am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

sextonseven said:


Wow. I'm happy I ordered mine awhile back before it sold out. It should arrive any day now.


Did you get it from Manson's site?


Yes I did. My confirmation email says it was shipped October 1st. I'll let you know when it arrives.
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Reply #32 posted 10/05/04 9:09am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

So here's the deal. Manson's site used to carry a special 3 disk set. It had the hits CD, the DVD with all the videos, and an extra DVD with the (s)aint video on it. But it seems they sold out and don't know if they will get more. I think this is fucking stupid, especially with so many fans trying to get it.

However, I've been reading that some people are buying the Japanese version which includes the CD with a few extra tracks, a B-sides/remix CD, and a DVD with all the videos including Personal Jesus and (s)aint. It seems some people are ordering it for about $42 from Amazon Japan. So maybe the DVD can be played here. I'm waiting to hear back from Japan.


Hey Evil, got a link to the page on Amazon Japan???
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Reply #33 posted 10/06/04 7:04am

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JediMaster said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

So here's the deal. Manson's site used to carry a special 3 disk set. It had the hits CD, the DVD with all the videos, and an extra DVD with the (s)aint video on it. But it seems they sold out and don't know if they will get more. I think this is fucking stupid, especially with so many fans trying to get it.

However, I've been reading that some people are buying the Japanese version which includes the CD with a few extra tracks, a B-sides/remix CD, and a DVD with all the videos including Personal Jesus and (s)aint. It seems some people are ordering it for about $42 from Amazon Japan. So maybe the DVD can be played here. I'm waiting to hear back from Japan.


eek

a B-sides/remix CD

eek eek



Yeah, lucky them. We however get the lesser version.
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Reply #34 posted 10/06/04 7:14am

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JediMaster said:

EvilWhiteMale said:

So here's the deal. Manson's site used to carry a special 3 disk set. It had the hits CD, the DVD with all the videos, and an extra DVD with the (s)aint video on it. But it seems they sold out and don't know if they will get more. I think this is fucking stupid, especially with so many fans trying to get it.

However, I've been reading that some people are buying the Japanese version which includes the CD with a few extra tracks, a B-sides/remix CD, and a DVD with all the videos including Personal Jesus and (s)aint. It seems some people are ordering it for about $42 from Amazon Japan. So maybe the DVD can be played here. I'm waiting to hear back from Japan.


Hey Evil, got a link to the page on Amazon Japan???



Yeah, but they said the DVD only plays on Region 2.

http://www.amazon.co.jp

There was a guy on Ebay who was selling a copy from Japan but he said it WOULD play in North America. I don't know if he was full of shit or not, but it sold for over $70.

I'm gonna wait a bit more for the (s)aint video but I may just give in and get the US version. confused
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Reply #35 posted 10/06/04 11:34am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

JediMaster said:



Hey Evil, got a link to the page on Amazon Japan???



Yeah, but they said the DVD only plays on Region 2.

http://www.amazon.co.jp

There was a guy on Ebay who was selling a copy from Japan but he said it WOULD play in North America. I don't know if he was full of shit or not, but it sold for over $70.

I'm gonna wait a bit more for the (s)aint video but I may just give in and get the US version. confused


Is there a track list floating around for the B-sides/remixes disc??? I'm just curious. It would be good for me, since most of my Manson singles were stolen a while back. This would be a nice, easy way to replace them (I really only care about having all the songs anyway). Of course,the bitch is that I just bought the US version!

Thanks for the info!!!
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Reply #36 posted 10/06/04 12:19pm

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JediMaster said:


Is there a track list floating around for the B-sides/remixes disc??? I'm just curious. It would be good for me, since most of my Manson singles were stolen a while back. This would be a nice, easy way to replace them (I really only care about having all the songs anyway). Of course,the bitch is that I just bought the US version!

Thanks for the info!!!



This is what the Japanese version consists of:

DISC 1
01. The Love Song
02. Personal Jesus
03. mOBSCENE
04. The Fight Song
05. Tainted Love
06. The xxxx Show
07. This Is The New xxxx
08. Disposable Teens
09. Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
10.Lunchbox
11.Tourniquet
12.Rock Is Dead
13.Get Your Gunn
14.The Nobodies
15.Long Hard Road Out Of Hell
16.The Beautiful People
17.The Reflecting God
(BONUS TRACKS)
18.(s)Aint
19.Irresponsible Hate Anthem
20.Coma White

DISC 2
01. Next Motherxxxxx (Rimix)
02. The Not So Beautiful People
03. The Horrible People
04. The Tourniquet (Prosthetic Dance Mix)
05. I Don't Like The xxxxx (But The xxxxx Like Me)(Danny Saber Remix)
06. Working Class Hero
07. The Fight Song (Slipnot Remix)
08. mOBSCENE/ Sauerkraut Remix (Rammstein Mix)

(Bonus DVD)
01. Personal Jesus
02. (s)Aint / (s)Aint
03. mOBSCENE
04. This Is The New xxxx
05. Disposable Teens
06. The Fight Song
07. The Nobodies
08. Autopsy
09. The Dope Show
10.I Don't Like The Drugs
11.Rock Is Dead
12.Coma White
13.Long Hard Road Out Of Hell
14.The Beautiful People
15.Tourniquet
16.Man That You Fear
17.Cryptorchid
18.Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
19.Dope Hat
20.Lunchbox
21.Get Your Gunn
22.Disposable Teens Perf.Version
23.Making Of mOBSCENE
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Reply #37 posted 10/06/04 12:41pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

JediMaster said:


Is there a track list floating around for the B-sides/remixes disc??? I'm just curious. It would be good for me, since most of my Manson singles were stolen a while back. This would be a nice, easy way to replace them (I really only care about having all the songs anyway). Of course,the bitch is that I just bought the US version!

Thanks for the info!!!



This is what the Japanese version consists of:

DISC 1
01. The Love Song
02. Personal Jesus
03. mOBSCENE
04. The Fight Song
05. Tainted Love
06. The xxxx Show
07. This Is The New xxxx
08. Disposable Teens
09. Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
10.Lunchbox
11.Tourniquet
12.Rock Is Dead
13.Get Your Gunn
14.The Nobodies
15.Long Hard Road Out Of Hell
16.The Beautiful People
17.The Reflecting God
(BONUS TRACKS)
18.(s)Aint
19.Irresponsible Hate Anthem
20.Coma White

DISC 2
01. Next Motherxxxxx (Rimix)
02. The Not So Beautiful People
03. The Horrible People
04. The Tourniquet (Prosthetic Dance Mix)
05. I Don't Like The xxxxx (But The xxxxx Like Me)(Danny Saber Remix)
06. Working Class Hero
07. The Fight Song (Slipnot Remix)
08. mOBSCENE/ Sauerkraut Remix (Rammstein Mix)

(Bonus DVD)
01. Personal Jesus
02. (s)Aint / (s)Aint
03. mOBSCENE
04. This Is The New xxxx
05. Disposable Teens
06. The Fight Song
07. The Nobodies
08. Autopsy
09. The Dope Show
10.I Don't Like The Drugs
11.Rock Is Dead
12.Coma White
13.Long Hard Road Out Of Hell
14.The Beautiful People
15.Tourniquet
16.Man That You Fear
17.Cryptorchid
18.Sweet Dreams (Are Made Of This)
19.Dope Hat
20.Lunchbox
21.Get Your Gunn
22.Disposable Teens Perf.Version
23.Making Of mOBSCENE


Thanks again!!

Hmmm, the three bonus tracks are cool, but still odd that IDLTHDBTDLM isn't on there!!!

The B-sides disc is a bit of a dissapointment, since it has way more remixes than b-sides.

Cool that the DVD has sAINT and PJ, but where is "Tainted Love"? Also, wasn't there a video to "Astonishing Panorama Of The Endtimes"? Could have sworn there was! I don't know that I want to pay that much money for 2 videos and a few remixes.

Guess its still a mixed bag!!!!
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Reply #38 posted 10/06/04 1:13pm

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JediMaster said:

Thanks again!!

Hmmm, the three bonus tracks are cool, but still odd that IDLTHDBTDLM isn't on there!!!

The B-sides disc is a bit of a dissapointment, since it has way more remixes than b-sides.

Cool that the DVD has sAINT and PJ, but where is "Tainted Love"? Also, wasn't there a video to "Astonishing Panorama Of The Endtimes"? Could have sworn there was! I don't know that I want to pay that much money for 2 videos and a few remixes.

Guess its still a mixed bag!!!!


I think there was a royalties issue with Tainted Love and the Astonishing video was just a Celebrity Deathmatch claymation. So more issues with that.

I really just want all the videos I can get. It sucks that they would leave stuff out.
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Reply #39 posted 10/07/04 7:27am

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I received my Manson CD in the mail yesterday. It's just the regular U.S. CD/DVD version with the (s)AINT video on a separate DVD in a plain white sleeve.
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Reply #40 posted 10/07/04 8:15am

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sextonseven said:

I received my Manson CD in the mail yesterday. It's just the regular U.S. CD/DVD version with the (s)AINT video on a separate DVD in a plain white sleeve.


That one is sold out.
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Reply #41 posted 10/07/04 8:27am

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EvilWhiteMale said:

sextonseven said:

I received my Manson CD in the mail yesterday. It's just the regular U.S. CD/DVD version with the (s)AINT video on a separate DVD in a plain white sleeve.


That one is sold out.


Yeah, I ordered mine back on Sept 28th as soon as I found out about it.
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Reply #42 posted 10/07/04 9:07am

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sextonseven said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



That one is sold out.


Yeah, I ordered mine back on Sept 28th as soon as I found out about it.


That's what I should have done. wall
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Reply #43 posted 10/07/04 12:18pm

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Man, we need to do a Manson B-sides and rarities thread. See who has what!!! Most of my shit was stolen, so I won't be much help, but it would still be a good idea.
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Reply #44 posted 10/07/04 12:46pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

sextonseven said:



Yeah, I ordered mine back on Sept 28th as soon as I found out about it.


That's what I should have done. wall



Why oh why do record labels have to make this shit so complicated for fans, with nineteen verisons of this damn album!
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Reply #45 posted 10/08/04 6:41am

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VinnyM27 said:

EvilWhiteMale said:



That's what I should have done. wall



Why oh why do record labels have to make this shit so complicated for fans, with nineteen verisons of this damn album!



I don't know. It seems like common sense to release more copies of a version that people REALLY want. They could have made a lot more cash if they gave us the full version.
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Reply #46 posted 10/08/04 6:52am

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Agreed. Unfortunately, this is the day and age of gouging consumers for everything they are worth. Look at all the different versions of various DVDs to have come out! DVD isn't even that old of a format, and we already have films that have been released in three or more editions.

In this case, its made even worse by the Japanese record companies. In Japan, many insist on artists turning in a "special" version of an album that is exclusive to that country. I remember reading an interview with Sammy Hagar a few years back about why Van Halen had put an extra track on the Japanese version of their album. He talked, in an obviously annoyed way, about how the Japanese suits were almost ready to refuse to release the album in that country if they didn't get at least one extra track. The band reluctantly obliged, but made sure to put the song on a b-side in the other countires, because they didn't feel it was really fair to the rest of their fans. (I just gotta say, I admire that Prince has consitently refused to give in to this demand).

Now, I DO think Manson should have said "whatever" and just given them one extra track on the greates hits or something, and given us everything else. I'd be quite satisfied if the only extra thing on the Japanese version was "Coma White".
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Reply #47 posted 10/08/04 8:24am

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manson should cover duran duran. id love to hear him do 'union of the snake' or 'night boat'
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Reply #48 posted 10/08/04 9:39pm

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JediMaster said:

Agreed. Unfortunately, this is the day and age of gouging consumers for everything they are worth. Look at all the different versions of various DVDs to have come out! DVD isn't even that old of a format, and we already have films that have been released in three or more editions.

In this case, its made even worse by the Japanese record companies. In Japan, many insist on artists turning in a "special" version of an album that is exclusive to that country. I remember reading an interview with Sammy Hagar a few years back about why Van Halen had put an extra track on the Japanese version of their album. He talked, in an obviously annoyed way, about how the Japanese suits were almost ready to refuse to release the album in that country if they didn't get at least one extra track. The band reluctantly obliged, but made sure to put the song on a b-side in the other countires, because they didn't feel it was really fair to the rest of their fans. (I just gotta say, I admire that Prince has consitently refused to give in to this demand).

Now, I DO think Manson should have said "whatever" and just given them one extra track on the greates hits or something, and given us everything else. I'd be quite satisfied if the only extra thing on the Japanese version was "Coma White".


Yeah. I mean why not put the Personal Jesus and (s)aint video on our shit? It makes no sense with the kind of demand they're getting over here. I'm still holding out in case they get some more copies of the better version.
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Reply #49 posted 10/08/04 9:44pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

JediMaster said:

Agreed. Unfortunately, this is the day and age of gouging consumers for everything they are worth. Look at all the different versions of various DVDs to have come out! DVD isn't even that old of a format, and we already have films that have been released in three or more editions.

In this case, its made even worse by the Japanese record companies. In Japan, many insist on artists turning in a "special" version of an album that is exclusive to that country. I remember reading an interview with Sammy Hagar a few years back about why Van Halen had put an extra track on the Japanese version of their album. He talked, in an obviously annoyed way, about how the Japanese suits were almost ready to refuse to release the album in that country if they didn't get at least one extra track. The band reluctantly obliged, but made sure to put the song on a b-side in the other countires, because they didn't feel it was really fair to the rest of their fans. (I just gotta say, I admire that Prince has consitently refused to give in to this demand).

Now, I DO think Manson should have said "whatever" and just given them one extra track on the greates hits or something, and given us everything else. I'd be quite satisfied if the only extra thing on the Japanese version was "Coma White".


Yeah. I mean why not put the Personal Jesus and (s)aint video on our shit? It makes no sense with the kind of demand they're getting over here. I'm still holding out in case they get some more copies of the better version.



They do that in Japan to get people in Japan to buy the Japanese release. Imports are often cheaper than the domestic releases there, so the extra track is to give incentive to buy that version there.
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Reply #50 posted 10/08/04 10:29pm

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EvilWhiteMale said:

VinnyM27 said:




Why oh why do record labels have to make this shit so complicated for fans, with nineteen verisons of this damn album!



I don't know. It seems like common sense to release more copies of a version that people REALLY want. They could have made a lot more cash if they gave us the full version.



I think that do this in order to rip off compeletists. I woudln't be shocked if someone buys:

The regular CD
The CD with Bonus DVD from America
The CD with Bonus DVD from Japan
The CD with Bonus DVD plus white selved "(s)aint" bonus DVD...from Hell!

Sounds crazy but I'm sure it works. I'm so damn confused now I'm not even sure if the Japanese import is the one that comes with "(s)aint" or doesn't or what....
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Reply #51 posted 10/08/04 10:32pm

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JediMaster said:

Agreed. Unfortunately, this is the day and age of gouging consumers for everything they are worth. Look at all the different versions of various DVDs to have come out! DVD isn't even that old of a format, and we already have films that have been released in three or more editions.

In this case, its made even worse by the Japanese record companies. In Japan, many insist on artists turning in a "special" version of an album that is exclusive to that country. I remember reading an interview with Sammy Hagar a few years back about why Van Halen had put an extra track on the Japanese version of their album. He talked, in an obviously annoyed way, about how the Japanese suits were almost ready to refuse to release the album in that country if they didn't get at least one extra track. The band reluctantly obliged, but made sure to put the song on a b-side in the other countires, because they didn't feel it was really fair to the rest of their fans. (I just gotta say, I admire that Prince has consitently refused to give in to this demand).

Now, I DO think Manson should have said "whatever" and just given them one extra track on the greates hits or something, and given us everything else. I'd be quite satisfied if the only extra thing on the Japanese version was "Coma White".


The reason this Japanese bonus track thing happens is because imports are cheaper than buying the CD from Japan, which makes no sense. Probably becuase the companies are so damn greedy. Hey, at least they release the one verison with the bonus song right away...and not a month later!
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Reply #52 posted 10/09/04 3:09am

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VinnyM27 said:

JediMaster said:

Agreed. Unfortunately, this is the day and age of gouging consumers for everything they are worth. Look at all the different versions of various DVDs to have come out! DVD isn't even that old of a format, and we already have films that have been released in three or more editions.

In this case, its made even worse by the Japanese record companies. In Japan, many insist on artists turning in a "special" version of an album that is exclusive to that country. I remember reading an interview with Sammy Hagar a few years back about why Van Halen had put an extra track on the Japanese version of their album. He talked, in an obviously annoyed way, about how the Japanese suits were almost ready to refuse to release the album in that country if they didn't get at least one extra track. The band reluctantly obliged, but made sure to put the song on a b-side in the other countires, because they didn't feel it was really fair to the rest of their fans. (I just gotta say, I admire that Prince has consitently refused to give in to this demand).

Now, I DO think Manson should have said "whatever" and just given them one extra track on the greates hits or something, and given us everything else. I'd be quite satisfied if the only extra thing on the Japanese version was "Coma White".


The reason this Japanese bonus track thing happens is because imports are cheaper than buying the CD from Japan, which makes no sense.



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