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Printablenamepeace said: Blaque. I know your views as to the factors in Prince's success, but the fact of the matter is that Prince has been one of the most successful crossover artists of the last 30 years, and only Michael Jackson (and mebbe Janet) can boast greater crossover success. But Prince has been more musically ambitious than his crossover contemporaries, ably blending funk, pop, rock, soul and jazz into an impressive body of work. He's made great music and large coin in the process. Many other artists of color, who are good-to-great in their own right, are doing their own thing and touch on many different influences, including -- INCLUDING -- Prince. And they aspire to have the same kind of success. Prince's success has got to be an impetus (to some degree) for record companies to invest in these new talents. Everybody's looking for the next Prince, MJ, Madonna, Nirvana, 2Pac, whatever. So many of these artists want the KIND OF SUCCESS Prince has had. Wouldn't you? That's a different kind of "wannabe." For a while, growing up, I drank that Kool-Aid, and thought any black person with a record deal wanted to be Prince. But I eventually realized that Prince had had his influences as well -- Miles, Stevie, Al, Joni and the incomparable Jimi, to name a few -- and used many of their ideas to carve out a niche and identity of his own. Which is what these newer cats are doing. I love D'Angelo. Maxwell. Van Hunt. TTD. Lenny. Beck. Dre3K. Me'Shell. So many others for what they do. They do stuff and make sounds Prince can't make. But Prince is an influence on these artists. PERIOD. Many of them have said so loudly and publicly. Of course Prince was an influence on these artists. No one is denying that. But you must admit that Prince fans tend to have an all encompassing view of what is "Prince like". You know just as well as I do that most of the people calling these artists wannabes probably don't mean in the career sense of the word. In the 80s, WB did a most fantastic job of marketing Prince with such vagueness and in such a way that many people think that anyone who: a. dresses "different" b. sings in falsetto c. plays multiple instruments d. mixes different styles of music e. has a "pretty boy" look is emulating Prince when that is simply just not the truth in most cases. As I said, I'm not suggesting that artists not give their influences props, but in no way should an influence be credited for another artist's work. People around here suggest just that. All praise and only praise is to be given to Prince. Sorry. I'm not on purple crack. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Of course Prince was an influence on these artists. No one is denying that. But you must admit that Prince fans tend to have an all encompassing view of what is "Prince like". You know just as well as I do that most of the people calling these artists wannabes probably don't mean in the career sense of the word. In the 80s, WB did a most fantastic job of marketing Prince with such vagueness and in such a way that many people think that anyone who:
a. dresses "different" b. sings in falsetto c. plays multiple instruments d. mixes different styles of music e. has a "pretty boy" look is emulating Prince when that is simply just not the truth in most cases. As I said, I'm not suggesting that artists not give their influences props, but in no way should an influence be credited for another artist's work. People around here suggest just that. All praise and only praise is to be given to Prince. Sorry. I'm not on purple crack. Thanks for the insight. I goaded you a lil' bit. kinda knew you thought that way, especially about WB's marketing of Prince (when he and the label were on the same page, they did great things). But I wanted to see you say it lest anyone believe you're being too harsh on the man. You are indeed right. I think P has made it easier for these artists to do all of the above and get a shot, as Little Richard and Chuck Berry made it easier for James, who made it easier for Sly and Jimi and Shuggie, who made it easier for Prince. Prince's uniqueness is that he has had the greatest combined success (artistic and commercia) of arguably any of these folk. Anyone who believes the music universe revolves around Prince should study his various influences and they will come to the same realization I did. He's a big star, but he's not necessarily the sun. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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okaypimpn said: raveon2tnek said: why is it that these guys so badly wanna be prince?here is the list:
michael jackson terence trent d'arby lenny kravitz maxwell raphael sodiq d'angelo got anyone else in mind? Who is Raphael Sodiq?  Rapheak Sodiq is the lead singer from the group TOni TOny Tone I like Lenny,maxwell and d'angelo. I could think of one.....Van Hunt he's been around for awhile. NIce CD  | |
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This has turned into an interesting discussion.BlaqueKnight always amazes me.Even when you don't fully agree with him,you gotta admit,he seems to know alot. | |
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purplebutterfly2 said: okaypimpn said: Who is Raphael Sodiq? Rapheak Sodiq is the lead singer from the group TOni TOny Tone I like Lenny,maxwell and d'angelo. I could think of one.....Van Hunt he's been around for awhile. NIce CD Oh, okay. I thought his name was "Raphael Saadiq!"  | |
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Georgio was the first name to come to mind. | |
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raveon2tnek said: why is it that these guys so badly wanna be prince?here is the list:
michael jackson terence trent d'arby lenny kravitz maxwell raphael sodiq d'angelo got anyone else in mind? alright guys,its been fun having u all bitch bout who is a wanna be or whatever! indulge me a lil and jus add me names to that list! having fun is what this thread is all about not a literary civil war or an exhibition of music industry know how! | |
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raveon2tnek said: raveon2tnek said: why is it that these guys so badly wanna be prince?here is the list:
michael jackson terence trent d'arby lenny kravitz maxwell raphael sodiq d'angelo got anyone else in mind? alright guys,its been fun having u all bitch bout who is a wanna be or whatever! indulge me a lil and jus add me names to that list! having fun is what this thread is all about not a literary civil war or an exhibition of music industry know how!  True. This thread and org is about  for music as a art form and we must not lose sight of this even when we get heated about a topic. | |
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Lenny Kravitz is a Prince wanna be for sure and so is that skinny guy from Outkast ...but who are these people anyway? I like The Stylistics much better! | |
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okaypimpn said: purplebutterfly2 said: Rapheak Sodiq is the lead singer from the group TOni TOny Tone I like Lenny,maxwell and d'angelo. I could think of one.....Van Hunt he's been around for awhile. NIce CD Oh, okay. I thought his name was "Raphael Saadiq!"  You should be 'shamed of yo'self | |
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priceless said: Lenny Kravitz is a Prince wanna be for sure and so is that skinny guy from Outkast ...but who are these people anyway? I like The Stylistics much better!
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BlaqueKnight said: namepeace said: Blaque. I know your views as to the factors in Prince's success, but the fact of the matter is that Prince has been one of the most successful crossover artists of the last 30 years, and only Michael Jackson (and mebbe Janet) can boast greater crossover success. But Prince has been more musically ambitious than his crossover contemporaries, ably blending funk, pop, rock, soul and jazz into an impressive body of work. He's made great music and large coin in the process. Many other artists of color, who are good-to-great in their own right, are doing their own thing and touch on many different influences, including -- INCLUDING -- Prince. And they aspire to have the same kind of success. Prince's success has got to be an impetus (to some degree) for record companies to invest in these new talents. Everybody's looking for the next Prince, MJ, Madonna, Nirvana, 2Pac, whatever. So many of these artists want the KIND OF SUCCESS Prince has had. Wouldn't you? That's a different kind of "wannabe." For a while, growing up, I drank that Kool-Aid, and thought any black person with a record deal wanted to be Prince. But I eventually realized that Prince had had his influences as well -- Miles, Stevie, Al, Joni and the incomparable Jimi, to name a few -- and used many of their ideas to carve out a niche and identity of his own. Which is what these newer cats are doing. I love D'Angelo. Maxwell. Van Hunt. TTD. Lenny. Beck. Dre3K. Me'Shell. So many others for what they do. They do stuff and make sounds Prince can't make. But Prince is an influence on these artists. PERIOD. Many of them have said so loudly and publicly. Of course Prince was an influence on these artists. No one is denying that. But you must admit that Prince fans tend to have an all encompassing view of what is "Prince like". You know just as well as I do that most of the people calling these artists wannabes probably don't mean in the career sense of the word. In the 80s, WB did a most fantastic job of marketing Prince with such vagueness and in such a way that many people think that anyone who: a. dresses "different" b. sings in falsetto c. plays multiple instruments d. mixes different styles of music e. has a "pretty boy" look is emulating Prince when that is simply just not the truth in most cases. As I said, I'm not suggesting that artists not give their influences props, but in no way should an influence be credited for another artist's work. People around here suggest just that. All praise and only praise is to be given to Prince. Sorry. I'm not on purple crack. ----- No one on this board gives praise only to Prince. Realize you are in the non-prince forum. However, this is a Prince message board so stop coming to this board and being shocked that members are singing Prince's praises. | |
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Terrance Trent Darby reminds me of Prince and Sade, but when I see his videos and the facial expressions, oh my gosh, it's as though he was studying PRINCE morning, noon, and night -- trying to learn to move his mouth like his and move his head like his. Especially when he is at the bar or wherever in the "Sign Your Name" video. I think that's the video.
And Dre3000 -- he should be ashamed! It's obvious that he went and re-listened to all of PRINCE albums. I think he was very jealous and wanted THAT kind of fame, not rap fame. He wanted to appear like a genius, and the quickest way is to copy a genius, but he can't pull it off. He looked more like a genius (somewhat) when he was rapping. At least he was at the top of his game back then, but now he looks silly and mediocre. He thinks he's being "different," but he just looks like a Macy Gray/Badu type now. [Edited 10/6/04 8:36am] The Dreaming Peasant
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laurarichardson said: No one on this board gives praise only to Prince. Realize you are in the non-prince forum. However, this is a Prince message board so stop coming to this board and being shocked that members are singing Prince's praises. Exactly where in any of my messages on this thread am I shocked? There is nothing wrong with singing Prince's praises; there is also nothing wrong with giving other artists their just dues as well. Why don't you realize that artists other than Prince have talent and should get the credit for their own accomplishments instead of bashed with silly fan rants by people so locked into Prince & the WB marketing machine that they can't come to realize that other artists have formed their own ideas and styles? Though they may have borrowed from Prince and others (just as Prince did), they too have their own thing going. You say no one on this board gives praise only to Prince, but some of you sure have a way of tracing a lot of other artists' successes back to Prince. That suggests that the artists themselves should be forever crediting their hard work to Prince. Prince has paved the way for a lot of artists, but most artists got into the studio with the intention of SELF EXPRESSION, not to imitate someone else. | |
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TheDreamingPeasant said: And Dre3000 -- he should be ashamed! It's obvious that he went and re-listened to all of PRINCE albums. I think he was very jealous and wanted THAT kind of fame, not rap fame. He wanted to appear like a genius, and the quickest way is to copy a genius, but he can't pull it off. He looked more like a genius (somewhat) when he was rapping. At least he was at the top of his game back then, but now he looks silly and mediocre. He thinks he's being "different," but he just looks like a Macy Gray/Badu type now.
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okaypimpn said: TheDreamingPeasant said: And Dre3000 -- he should be ashamed! It's obvious that he went and re-listened to all of PRINCE albums. I think he was very jealous and wanted THAT kind of fame, not rap fame. He wanted to appear like a genius, and the quickest way is to copy a genius, but he can't pull it off. He looked more like a genius (somewhat) when he was rapping. At least he was at the top of his game back then, but now he looks silly and mediocre. He thinks he's being "different," but he just looks like a Macy Gray/Badu type now.
why are you yawning? okay, i see your "name" has pimpin' in it, so you would be bored at the thought of someone "dissing" rap. Peasant makes a good point here!!! "The poets are demanding their pay..."
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LittleLamb said: okaypimpn said: why are you yawning? okay, i see your "name" has pimpin' in it, so you would be bored at the thought of someone "dissing" rap. Peasant makes a good point here!!! No he doesn't. I don't care how "Prince-like" The Love Below is, it's a damn good album and Andre has a lot of talent. Sure, I can see, to a certain extent how he might be acting like a prince "wannabe" (trying to play the guitar and do the splits and other stuff), but Andre's his own man. When was the last time prince tried rapping without embarassing himself, or managed to make downright weird music that was still popular. And if you've seen Dre's stage costumes, He'S a WAY crazier dresser than Prince ever was. When prince was starting out he was a wannabe too, he wanted to be jimi, sly, james, stevie etc.. and you could see it in the way he acted, dressed and made music. How many threads have been devoted to prince songs seem to be immitations/rip-offs of old sly or james songs, or about how many parallels there are between prince and stevie or whatever. Everyone emulates their elder betters a little bit; everyone is "derivative" somewhat because pure originality is impossible. I don't think Dre is soooo much like Prince that he should be "ashamed" I just think he's trying to do things other than hardcore G-funk rap. | |
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No he doesn't. I don't care how "Prince-like" The Love Below is, it's a damn good album and Andre has a lot of talent. Sure, I can see, to a certain extent how he might be acting like a prince "wannabe" (trying to play the guitar and do the splits and other stuff), but Andre's his own man. When was the last time prince tried rapping without embarassing himself, or managed to make downright weird music that was still popular. And if you've seen Dre's stage costumes, He'S a WAY crazier dresser than Prince ever was. When prince was starting out he was a wannabe too, he wanted to be jimi, sly, james, stevie etc.. and you could see it in the way he acted, dressed and made music. How many threads have been devoted to prince songs seem to be immitations/rip-offs of old sly or james songs, or about how many parallels there are between prince and stevie or whatever. Everyone emulates their elder betters a little bit; everyone is "derivative" somewhat because pure originality is impossible. I don't think Dre is soooo much like Prince that he should be "ashamed" I just think he's trying to do things other than hardcore G-funk rap.
Yes, Prince emulated some folks, but when I see Prince, I see a man who incorporated other folks' styles along with his own; thus, he became his own thing. Dre300, for some reason to me, is more of a copycat b/c the change was abrupt. It was not smooth. I don't know. I like Dre and I am glad he wants to be beyond hiphop, but it just didn't come off smoothly enough for me-- and for that reason, i shout: FRAUD! That's just the way I feel. And you are right: pure originality is IMPOSSIBLE, but FRAUDS shouldn't be seen as geniuses! I can't stand that. There is a way to emulate your elders without trying to turn into them, without trying to appear as if YOU copied no one when the world knows you did; as if you are sooooo "deep" (i hate that word!). And this is how Dre comes off to me. And the only reason DRE's outfits WERE more extreme than PRINCE's was because that was DRE trying to NOT look like a complete copycat (he was trying to OUTDO prince in the clothing dept. b/c he couldn't OUTDO him in the music sense), but as soon as PRINCE started doing the more calmer look with the suits and stuff, what did dre do? it was suit time, no more fluffy pants and all that for DRE. His hair is even cut low now isn't it!!! "The poets are demanding their pay..."
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Right on BlaqueKnight!
The same old story all over again.....yawn indeed! Sananda a wannabee Prince coz he changed his name and is a spiritual being..... Well let me shine some light here, whattabout the fact most well-known people don't even go by their birthname but choose another? Do you compare these to Prince too? Besides, if you think it's a whimp, well Sananda made it official and will NEVER change it back that's for sure. Here you have a few others: Dre. Dre The D.O.C. Master P Snoop Dogg 50 Cent Eminem Nate Dogg Warren G Jay Z A Alan Alda = Alphonso D'Abruzzo Woody Allen = Allen Konigsberg Julie Andrews = Julia Wells Fred Astaire = Frederick Austerlitz B P.Diddy = Kenneth Edmonds Lauren Bacall = Betty Joan Perske Anne Bancroft = Anna Maria Italiano Pat Benatar = Patricia Andrejewski Tony Bennett = Anthony Benedetto Jack Benny = Benjamin Kubelsky Robert Blake = Michael Gubitosi Bono = Paul Hewson David Bowie = David Robert Jones Boy George = George Alan O'Dowd Charles Bronson = Charles Buchinski Albert Brooks = Albert Einstein Mel Brooks = Melvin Kaminsky George Burns = Nathan Birnbaum Ellen Burstyn = Edna Gilhooley Richard Burton = Richard Jenkins C Nicholas Cage = Nicholas Coppola Michael Cain = Maurice Micklewhite Maria Callas = Maria Kalogeropoulos Vikki Carr = Florencia Casillas Ray Charles = Ray Charles Robinson Chubby Checker = Ernest Evans Cher = Cherilyn Sarkisian Patsy Cline = Virginia Patterson Hensley Claudette Colbert = Lily Chauchoin Robert Conrad = Conrad Robert Falk Alice Cooper = Vincent Furnier David Copperfield = David Kotkin Howard Cosell = Howard Cohen Elvis Costello = Declan McManus Lou Costello = Louis Cristillo Joan Crawford = Lucille Le Sueur Michael Crawford = Michael Dumble-Smith Tom Cruise = Thomas Mapother IV Tony Curtis = Bernard Schwartz D Rodney Dangerfield = Jacob Cohen Doris Day = Doris von Kappelhoff James Dean = James Byron John Denver = Henry John Deutschendorf Jr. Bo Derek = Mary Cathleen Collins Danny DeVito = Daniel Michaeli Angie Dickinson = Angeline Brown Bo Diddley = Elias Bates Phyllis Diller = Phyllis Driver Kirk Douglas = Issur Danielovitch Bob Dylan = Robert Zimmerman E Sheena Easton = Sheena Shirley Orr Elvira = Cassandra Paterson Enya = Eithne Ni Bhraonian F Morgan Fairchild = Patsy McClenny Sally Field = Sally Mahoney W.C. Fields = William Claude Dukenfield Jodie Foster = Alicia Christian Foster G Greta Garbo = Greta Gustafsson Judy Garland = Frances Gumm James Garner = James Bumgarner Crystal Gayle = Brenda Gayle Webb Kathie Lee Gifford = Kathie Epstein Whoopie Goldberg = Caryn Johnson Cary Grant = Archibald Leach H Hammer = Stanley Kirk Burrell Rita Hayworth = Margarita Cansino Pee-Wee Herman = Paul Reubenfeld Barbara Hershey = Barbara Herzstine Billie Holliday = Eleanora Fagan Harry Houdini = Ehrich Weiss Rock Hudson = Roy Scherer Jr. I Ice-T = Tracy Morrow Billy Idol = William Broad J Elton John = Reginald Dwight Don Johnson = Donald Wayne Al Jolson = Asa Yoelson Tom Jones = Thomas Woodward Wynonna Judd = Christina Ciminella K Boris Karloff = William Henry Pratt Danny Kaye = David Kaminsky Diane Keaton = Diane Hall Michael Keaton = Michael Douglas Chaka Khan = Yvette Stevens Larry King = Larry Zeigler Ben Kingsley = Krishna Banji Nastassja Kinski = Nastassja Naksyznyski L Cheryl Ladd = Cheryl Stoppelmoor Veronica Lake = Constance Ockleman Dorothy Lamour = Mary Kaumeyer Michael Landon = Eugene Orowitz Queen Latifah = Dana Owens Stan Laurel = Arthur Jefferson Steve Lawrence = Sidney Leibowitz Bruce Lee = Lee Yuen Kam Huey Lewis = Hugh Cregg Jerry Lewis = Joseph Levitch Jack Lord = John Joseph Ryan Sophia Loren = Sophia Scicoloni Peter Lorre = Laszio Lowenstein Bela Lugosi = Bela Ferenc Blasko M Shirley MacLaine = Shirley Beaty Elle MacPherson = Eleanor Gow Madonna = Madonna Louise Ciccone Lee Majors = Harvey Lee Yeary II Karl Malden = Mladen Sekulovich Barry Manilow = Barry Alan Pincus Jayne Mansfield = Vera Jane Palmer Walter Matthau = Walter Matuschanskayasky Dean Martin = Dino Crocetti Meat Loaf = Marvin Lee Aday Ethel Merman = Ethel Zimmerman George Michael = Georgios Panayiotou Marilyn Monroe = Norma Jean Mortenson (later Baker) Demi Moore = Demetria Guynes Rita Moreno = Rosita Alverio Harry Morgan = Harry Bratsburg N Chuck Norris = Carlos Ray Andre Norton = Mary Alice Norton Notorious B.I.G. = Christopher Wallace P Jack Palance = Walter Palanuik Bernadette Peters = Bernadette Lazzaro Slim Pickens = Louis Lindley Mary Pickford = Gladys Smith Stephanie Powers = Stefania Federkiewicz Prince = Prince Rogers Nelson R Tony Randall = Leonard Rosenberg Johnnie Ray = John Alvin Donna Reed = Donna Belle Mullenger Della Reese = Delloreese Patricia Early Joan Rivers = Joan Sandra Molinsky Edward G. Robinson = Emmanuel Goldenberg Mickey Rooney = Joe Yule Jr. Johnny Rotten = John Lydon Winona Ryder = Winona Horowitz S Susan Sarandon = Susan Tomaling Jane Seymour = Joyce Frankenberg Omar Sharif = Michael Shalhoub Charlie Sheen = Carlos Irwin Estevez Martin Sheen = Ramon Estevez Talia Shire = Talia Coppola Sinbad = David Atkins Slash = Saul Hudson Suzanne Somers = Suzanne Mahoney Robert Stack = Robert Modini Barbara Stanwyck = Ruby Stevens Ringo Starr = Richard Starkey Connie Stevens = Concetta Ingolia Sting = Gordon Sumner Donna Summer = La Donna Gaines T Mr. T = Lawrence Tero Danny Thomas = Muzyad Yakhoob Tiny Tim = Herbert Khaury Rip Torn = Elmore Rual Torn Jr. Randy Travis = Randy Traywick Sophie Tucker = Sophia Kalish Tina Turner = Annie Mae Bullock Twiggy = Leslie Hornby V Rudolph Valentino = Rudolpho D'Antonguolla Frankie Valli = Frank Castelluccio Sid Vicious = John Simon Ritchie W John Wayne = Marion Morrison Raquel Welch = Raquel Tejada Gene Wilder = Jerome Silberman Shelley Winters = Shirley Schrift Stevie Wonder = Stevland Morris Natalie Wood = Natasha Gurdin About being spiritual human beings: Prince didn't "invent" that either, through humanity you'll find them everywhere. And how much oil I throw on fire when I say that Prince is a Hendrix wannabee? 
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P.Diddy = Kenneth Edmonds
Isn't P. Diddy's real name Sean Combs? Oh and Stevie wonder's birth name was Steveland Hardaway Judkins, then his mother remarried and he changed it to Morris [Edited 10/7/04 16:02pm] Anne Bancroft = Anna Maria Italiano  really?[Edited 10/7/04 16:08pm] | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Wow. A new name has been added? Raphael? Oh right, he wore a ruffled shirt once in a video. Lord knows THAT never happened before Prince, right? couch, cough, LittleRichardLiberacePaulRevereandTheRaidersJimiHendrixAdamAntDavidBowieTheBeattles,etc. cough. Sananda (TTD) sounds NOTHING like Prince. People who are really into his music already know that lyrically they are so different it ain't even funny. Contentwise, musically there's no resemblence either. What they have in common is both of them are light-skinned black males with a "pretty boy" image who do a mixture of rock and funk. Actually, Sananda does a mixture of rock & soul. Now I see why TTD left the states. People probably wouldn't let him be himself here. How can you even show who you are when everybody is so busy trying to link you to someone else. R&B surface listeners seem to make these comparisons a lot. Of course these artists are influenced by Prince, as is probably every artist that came along during the time of Prince's popularity. Somehow, it seems that in the mind of Prince fans that when it comes to Prince influence=cloned. All of these artists have their own identites, personalities, etc. If you don't see that, then you probably don't know their work well enough. This is a tired subject. Michael Jackson? LMAO!!!! That's just plain stupid. Warner Brothers really did a number on some of your heads with their marketing campaign. I think some of you who have posted on this topic before are simply trying to make up for Prince's lack of relevance on today's music scene by trying to link him to artists who are currently influencing what's going on. Prince's status in music's history is secrrue. He's a legend. Let it go. Oh wait...this is Prince.org. "All roads lead to Prince"
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jacktheimprovident said:[quote] P.Diddy = Kenneth Edmonds
Isn't P. Diddy's real name Sean Combs? [Edited 10/7/04 16:02pm] Yeah you're right I guess I mixed him with Babyface?
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soon as PRINCE started doing the more calmer look with the suits and stuff, what did dre do? it was suit time, no more fluffy pants and all that for DRE. His hair is even cut low now isn't it!!!
Exactly. He is trying to make himself a legend. Prince was born talented, it seems, but Dre3000 was born to be the genius of rap and that's 'bout it. Trying to apply to Julliard doesn't make you a genius. If he went to Julliard when he was, say, 12, different story! Lauryn Hill, too, is trying to make herself a legend. She only had one good album,so far. It's like Snoop claiming he was the MJackson of hip hop. The Dreaming Peasant
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There's NO ONE with a bigger Hard-On for Prince
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jacktheimprovident said: LittleLamb said: why are you yawning? okay, i see your "name" has pimpin' in it, so you would be bored at the thought of someone "dissing" rap. Peasant makes a good point here!!! No he doesn't. I don't care how "Prince-like" The Love Below is, it's a damn good album and Andre has a lot of talent. Sure, I can see, to a certain extent how he might be acting like a prince "wannabe" (trying to play the guitar and do the splits and other stuff), but Andre's his own man. When was the last time prince tried rapping without embarassing himself, or managed to make downright weird music that was still popular. And if you've seen Dre's stage costumes, He'S a WAY crazier dresser than Prince ever was. When prince was starting out he was a wannabe too, he wanted to be jimi, sly, james, stevie etc.. and you could see it in the way he acted, dressed and made music. How many threads have been devoted to prince songs seem to be immitations/rip-offs of old sly or james songs, or about how many parallels there are between prince and stevie or whatever. Everyone emulates their elder betters a little bit; everyone is "derivative" somewhat because pure originality is impossible. I don't think Dre is soooo much like Prince that he should be "ashamed" I just think he's trying to do things other than hardcore G-funk rap.  With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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I don't think Dre is soooo much like Prince that he should be "ashamed" I just think he's trying to do things other than hardcore G-funk rap.
If he was smart, he wouldn't have got involved in that "dead-end" thing called rap. He is trying to have longevity, now, but, he has to start all over. He has to go into hiding and take music lessons and act as though he is a kid learning to play the piano. Prince even said he showed Beyonce how to play a few keys. Everyone is trying to go that route now because those artists, the true musicians, have longevity. But, it is not all about knowing how to play the instrument, either; you also have to know how to write. Prince is literary; Dre3000 at best, is trying to be a singer singing rappers' lyrics. You shouldn't yawn at my statement, you should be yawning at Dre3000's album. [Edited 10/8/04 5:35am] The Dreaming Peasant
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orgjacko said:
There's NO ONE with a bigger Hard-On for Prince
ALL I added was a Mole & Mustache -Stupid pics blah blah- 
Mike started wearing militiary cloths since thriller. Not 87-88! same with make-up And wore made costumes since he was a kid. I don't know why I'm even responding to you. Get the fuck out of here, and try getting a life doing it. Dont spend your 24/7 on MJ. This is the last time I'm even reading your laugable posts. [Edited 10/8/04 6:05am] | |
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jacktheimprovident said: LittleLamb said: why are you yawning? okay, i see your "name" has pimpin' in it, so you would be bored at the thought of someone "dissing" rap. Peasant makes a good point here!!! No he doesn't. I don't care how "Prince-like" The Love Below is, it's a damn good album and Andre has a lot of talent. Sure, I can see, to a certain extent how he might be acting like a prince "wannabe" (trying to play the guitar and do the splits and other stuff), but Andre's his own man. When was the last time prince tried rapping without embarassing himself, or managed to make downright weird music that was still popular. And if you've seen Dre's stage costumes, He'S a WAY crazier dresser than Prince ever was. When prince was starting out he was a wannabe too, he wanted to be jimi, sly, james, stevie etc.. and you could see it in the way he acted, dressed and made music. How many threads have been devoted to prince songs seem to be immitations/rip-offs of old sly or james songs, or about how many parallels there are between prince and stevie or whatever. Everyone emulates their elder betters a little bit; everyone is "derivative" somewhat because pure originality is impossible. I don't think Dre is soooo much like Prince that he should be "ashamed" I just think he's trying to do things other than hardcore G-funk rap. Thank you! I knew someone with some sense would post. | |
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Oh man this shit is funny. The only similarity between MJ and Prince is that they are both effeminate male singers. It pretty much ends there | |
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