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Hot (I need to be loved loved) vs. Fame So who knows the answer to this little music history mystery. Obviously the main riff to these two songs, released around the same is identical and Carlos Alomar is the link between the two. AMG seems to be of the assumption that James Brown stole the idea from Alomar and Bowie's version came first, I'm not so convinced, anyone else have insight? | |
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Bowie released it 1st..... bowie heard it and he said " if it cracks the top 10 we'll sue" the record bombed and bowie just laughed it off... JB blatently ripped the whole structure of that song tryin to be "hip" and dropped tha fuckin ball on that one.. | |
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TheRealFiness said: Bowie released it 1st..... bowie heard it and he said " if it cracks the top 10 we'll sue" the record bombed and bowie just laughed it off... JB blatently ripped the whole structure of that song tryin to be "hip" and dropped tha fuckin ball on that one..
I don't know, it sounds like something james could've come up with, Alomar was the one credited with the riff, alomar did work with James Brown and "released first" doesn't necessarily mean written first. If it's a documented fact then whatever, I'm just trying to make sure i know the whole story (and I'm bigger Brown fan than Bowie fan so I do have a bias  ) | |
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jacktheimprovident said: TheRealFiness said: Bowie released it 1st..... bowie heard it and he said " if it cracks the top 10 we'll sue" the record bombed and bowie just laughed it off... JB blatently ripped the whole structure of that song tryin to be "hip" and dropped tha fuckin ball on that one..
I don't know, it sounds like something james could've come up with, Alomar was the one credited with the riff, alomar did work with James Brown and "released first" doesn't necessarily mean written first. If it's a documented fact then whatever, I'm just trying to make sure i know the whole story (and I'm bigger Brown fan than Bowie fan so I do have a bias )well, thats the true fact.... Hot i need to be loved was a shit record.. period...James never had an original idea... he always jumped on the bandwagon to be hip.. trynna find "the latest thing" Bowie found that thang... James stole it... thats the truth, | |
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Steve Bloom said: When David Bowie topped the charts in '75 with "Fame", a rock variation of the JB groove, Brown weighed in a few months later with "Hot (I Need to Be Loved, Loved, Loved)." While it's a carbon copy of "Fame", the Godfather argued that "Fame" had copied from him in the first place.
Fred Wesley said: "'J.B.'s Monaurail' is when me and James started falling out," Fred says. "I told him, 'You're copying people who are copying you!" He thought he had run out of ideas...
I'm a bigger JB fan than Bowie but it's obvious that JB was stealing... | |
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James never had an original idea... he always jumped on the bandwagon to be hip.. trynna find "the latest thing"
What kinda bullshit statement is that. I don't care if he did rip off Hot I need to be loved, no one should be talkin' that kinda shit about the godfather [Edited 9/26/04 21:12pm] | |
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Yeah,I was amazed when I got the James Brown box set last year and i finally heard James' song.I said "Damn,this sounds just like David Bowie's "Fame"!".Same groove,same music. | |
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jacktheimprovident said: James never had an original idea... he always jumped on the bandwagon to be hip.. trynna find "the latest thing"
What kinda bullshit statement is that. I don't care if he did rip off Hot I need to be loved, no one should be talkin' that kinda shit about the godfather [Edited 9/26/04 21:12pm] its the truth.. | |
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TheRealFiness said: jacktheimprovident said: What kinda bullshit statement is that. I don't care if he did rip off Hot I need to be loved, no one should be talkin' that kinda shit about the godfather [Edited 9/26/04 21:12pm] its the truth.. James Brown, easily one of the top 5 most important figures in black music never had an original idea?  I'm not buyin' it. The man invented a genre and helped invent two others. | |
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