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PrintableSassyBritches said: mchotsie said: If u can't sing, dance, write, etc. then u shouldn't be in the MUSIC industry. Join a circus if u just wanna ENTERTAIN. Look at the people that have gone down in musical history: Santana, Zeppelin, Clapton, The Doors, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Joni Mitchell, Hendrix, etc. These were people that belonged in the music industry. It just really bugs me how the industry has really takin a dive into a big craphole. How come when I was young, the bands and musicians that were big then actually had some talent. Nowadays, what the teenie boppers seem to like is CRAP CRAP CRAP.....what a shame 
If u like Britney, then like her for her tight little body and her cutsie little smile and that's it! Honestly, its hard to believe that someone who is truly into Prince and his music would even give Britney the time of day....but that's just me  where to even begin... i hope you didn't/don't like appolonia 6, vanity 6, or MOST of the prince proteges considering they didn't write, couldn't dance worth a crap, couldn't sing, blah, blah, blah. when they left prince and tried to be successes on their own we see what happened. personally, i don't think brit's voice is nearly as bad as some people make it out to be...just my opinion. judging from her success, i'm not the only one who thinks that way. your requirements for entry into he music biz reate a lot of problems because MOST of the "greats" from the past DID NOT write, produce, play, etc. there own songs. you list a bunch of historical people in that list...and, yes, they are great contributors to musi history. why does everyone in the business have to be "the best of the best"? if you want to ponder the world's problems or enjoy intricate arrangements, lyrics, harmonies, etc. then great...throw on some beatles, some beasties, some bjork, prince, joni mitchell, bob dylan...whoever. to act as though ALL of world needs to subscribe to those styles to enjoy music is incredibly closeminded. i find it hard to believe that someone who is truly into prince would "poo-poo" some cheese in their musical diet. i find it hard to believe that someone who's truly into prince would be so narrow minded when it comes to music. For me, I suppose, it's the fact that Britney seems so incredibly, absolutely, all-consumingly stupid. Like some white trash Louisiana stripper got a chance to shake her tits on a national level. In fact, she's so stupid that IMHO she doesn't even have any sex appeal. There's nothing going on behind those cow eyes, and you can't be sexy if you can't have a conversation. At the very least, Vanity knew how to deliver songs like "Nasty Girl". Britney tries to sex it up in "Breathe On Me" and she still winds up sounding like a 13-year-old trying to be Marilyn Monroe in front of her bedroom mirror. Blechhh. | |
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superspaceboy said: I like Madonna...who is the only thing I can possibly compare her to. Difference is Madonna worked her ass off (literally) to get where she is. Britney and all of these others get their start on a tv show or an ad. There's no integrity behind it. If someone wants to be the next thing...you need no real talent, just a newspaper and a perky smile. Madonna also pushed a few music bounderies and DIDN'T sound like everyone else.
because you don't like what she does is not a legitimate argument as to whether or not she has worked her ass off in her industry. the fact that britney has been in the entertainment business since she was a little kid suggests that she has put in her dues...just a little earlier than most. | |
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SassyBritches said: superspaceboy said: I like Madonna...who is the only thing I can possibly compare her to. Difference is Madonna worked her ass off (literally) to get where she is. Britney and all of these others get their start on a tv show or an ad. There's no integrity behind it. If someone wants to be the next thing...you need no real talent, just a newspaper and a perky smile. Madonna also pushed a few music bounderies and DIDN'T sound like everyone else.
because you don't like what she does is not a legitimate argument as to whether or not she has worked her ass off in her industry. the fact that britney has been in the entertainment business since she was a little kid suggests that she has put in her dues...just a little earlier than most. It suggests that she has a pushy stage mother, nothing more. | |
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VoicesCarry said: SassyBritches said: where to even begin... i hope you didn't/don't like appolonia 6, vanity 6, or MOST of the prince proteges considering they didn't write, couldn't dance worth a crap, couldn't sing, blah, blah, blah. when they left prince and tried to be successes on their own we see what happened. personally, i don't think brit's voice is nearly as bad as some people make it out to be...just my opinion. judging from her success, i'm not the only one who thinks that way. your requirements for entry into he music biz reate a lot of problems because MOST of the "greats" from the past DID NOT write, produce, play, etc. there own songs. you list a bunch of historical people in that list...and, yes, they are great contributors to musi history. why does everyone in the business have to be "the best of the best"? if you want to ponder the world's problems or enjoy intricate arrangements, lyrics, harmonies, etc. then great...throw on some beatles, some beasties, some bjork, prince, joni mitchell, bob dylan...whoever. to act as though ALL of world needs to subscribe to those styles to enjoy music is incredibly closeminded. i find it hard to believe that someone who is truly into prince would "poo-poo" some cheese in their musical diet. i find it hard to believe that someone who's truly into prince would be so narrow minded when it comes to music. For me, I suppose, it's the fact that Britney seems so incredibly, absolutely, all-consumingly stupid. Like some white trash Louisiana stripper got a chance to shake her tits on a national level. In fact, she's so stupid that IMHO she doesn't even have any sex appeal. There's nothing going on behind those cow eyes, and you can't be sexy if you can't have a conversation. At the very least, Vanity knew how to deliver songs like "Nasty Girl". Britney tries to sex it up in "Breathe On Me" and she still winds up sounding like a 13-year-old trying to be Marilyn Monroe in front of her bedroom mirror. Blechhh. we can disagee, its cool. funny you should mention that song, though, because a lot of people who don't like britney DO, in fact, like that song...and toxic, too. regardless to all of that, i don't listen to britney because i can or can't have a conversation with her. i listen to her because her music is fun. to be quite honest, most of us couldn't have a real conversation with prince yet we still listen to his music. | |
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VoicesCarry said: SassyBritches said: because you don't like what she does is not a legitimate argument as to whether or not she has worked her ass off in her industry. the fact that britney has been in the entertainment business since she was a little kid suggests that she has put in her dues...just a little earlier than most. It suggests that she has a pushy stage mother, nothing more. oh please...her "pushy stage mother" wouldn't have the slightest affect on a casting agent, talent agent, record executive or record label janitor. | |
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SassyBritches said: VoicesCarry said: For me, I suppose, it's the fact that Britney seems so incredibly, absolutely, all-consumingly stupid. Like some white trash Louisiana stripper got a chance to shake her tits on a national level. In fact, she's so stupid that IMHO she doesn't even have any sex appeal. There's nothing going on behind those cow eyes, and you can't be sexy if you can't have a conversation. At the very least, Vanity knew how to deliver songs like "Nasty Girl". Britney tries to sex it up in "Breathe On Me" and she still winds up sounding like a 13-year-old trying to be Marilyn Monroe in front of her bedroom mirror. Blechhh. we can disagee, its cool. funny you should mention that song, though, because a lot of people who don't like britney DO, in fact, like that song...and toxic, too. regardless to all of that, i don't listen to britney because i can or can't have a conversation with her. i listen to her because her music is fun. to be quite honest, most of us couldn't have a real conversation with prince yet we still listen to his music. I merely ask that the artists I listen to be able to string a basic sentence together. Britney would probably fail that test. She shouldn't be there - she should be working some Dairy Queen in New Orleans, which is a job that's more commensurate with her abilities. Because there are a lot of smarter, sexier girls who are better dancers and lip synchers. And that's about all she can do. [Edited 9/16/04 14:58pm] | |
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SassyBritches said: VoicesCarry said: It suggests that she has a pushy stage mother, nothing more. oh please...her "pushy stage mother" wouldn't have the slightest affect on a casting agent, talent agent, record executive or record label janitor. Do you really believe Britney was signed because she was just a talented girl angling for a record deal?  Stop being so naive. Lynne Spears has done an incredibly good job of micromanaging her daughter and her image (if you don't think so, read the hilarious contributions she still makes to Britney's website). | |
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purplegypsy said: Why does it always sound like she has wine corks stuffed in her nose when she sings?
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SassyBritches said: superspaceboy said: I like Madonna...who is the only thing I can possibly compare her to. Difference is Madonna worked her ass off (literally) to get where she is. Britney and all of these others get their start on a tv show or an ad. There's no integrity behind it. If someone wants to be the next thing...you need no real talent, just a newspaper and a perky smile. Madonna also pushed a few music bounderies and DIDN'T sound like everyone else.
because you don't like what she does is not a legitimate argument as to whether or not she has worked her ass off in her industry. the fact that britney has been in the entertainment business since she was a little kid suggests that she has put in her dues...just a little earlier than most. I never said Brit did not work hard...in fact the first line of my reply says just the opposite. What I was getting at was that Britany has been pretty much handed her stardom (like many others)...where as Madonna really worked for it. Came form nothing and put herself out there to get known. I think that Stars these days don't have to do a lot of work to get their name out there anymore. You know I ain't knocking Brits music perse...it's just that she adds nothing to the musical landscape at all. She and her ilk are what is wrong with music today and the industry that puts this stuff out there. There will always be room for the Britneys...but it seems that that is ALL there is room for...or all that is accepted. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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VoicesCarry said: SassyBritches said: we can disagee, its cool. funny you should mention that song, though, because a lot of people who don't like britney DO, in fact, like that song...and toxic, too. regardless to all of that, i don't listen to britney because i can or can't have a conversation with her. i listen to her because her music is fun. to be quite honest, most of us couldn't have a real conversation with prince yet we still listen to his music. I merely ask that the artists I listen to be able to string a basic sentence together. Britney would probably fail that test. She shouldn't be there - she should be working some Dairy Queen in New Orleans, which is a job that's more commensurate with her abilities. Because there are a lot of smarter, sexier girls who are better dancers and lip synchers. And that's about all she can do. [Edited 9/16/04 14:58pm] um, i have a sneaking suspicion if they were just floating around, britney's day would have come and gone. i'm sure there are a lot of mediocre singers and dancers just as talented as britney. maybe they lack stage presence, though. maybe they lack the drive or determination. maybe they are not willing to sacrifice the things required to sacrifice. who knows. regardless, britney is here and they are not. | |
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VoicesCarry said: SassyBritches said: because you don't like what she does is not a legitimate argument as to whether or not she has worked her ass off in her industry. the fact that britney has been in the entertainment business since she was a little kid suggests that she has put in her dues...just a little earlier than most. It suggests that she has a pushy stage mother, nothing more. But MJ had a pushy stage father but that doesn't make him any less a talent | |
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and you know, come to think of it...there are a lot of "genius" musicians who died of ODs before they even got to make four records. how smart could they really have been? | |
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jayaredee said: VoicesCarry said: It suggests that she has a pushy stage mother, nothing more. But MJ had a pushy stage father but that doesn't make him any less a talent great point. and mj's pushy stage dad couldn't get anything done UNTIL he had ssome talent in his all boy band...namely, michael. [Edited 9/16/04 15:03pm] | |
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jayaredee said: VoicesCarry said: It suggests that she has a pushy stage mother, nothing more. But MJ had a pushy stage father but that doesn't make him any less a talent MJ can sing.  | |
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SassyBritches said: and you know, come to think of it...there are a lot of "genius" musicians who died of ODs before they even got to make four records. how smart could they really have been?
A lot of smart people can be stupid with drugs. But that doesn't really relate to what I was saying, anyway. She totally bores me. Maybe if she did some drugs she'd be more interesting. | |
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SassyBritches said: kisscamille said: You're kidding right??
Hello!! She can't sing at all. Can't play any instruments! Can't dance either - she does stripper moves, not dancing! What more do you need?? i understand that peeps don't like her but i don't understand the vehemence in which they despise her. there seem to be a lot of performers who (depending on your opinion) can't sing, can't dance, can't play an instrument, can't write, can't produce, can't whatever. does that make them LESS entertaining? most performers in music's history could not do all of those things. most past performers had songwriters, producers, image consultants, bands (that didn't even get credit), etc. what is so different about brits? BAD MUSIC! "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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SassyBritches said: VoicesCarry said: I merely ask that the artists I listen to be able to string a basic sentence together. Britney would probably fail that test. She shouldn't be there - she should be working some Dairy Queen in New Orleans, which is a job that's more commensurate with her abilities. Because there are a lot of smarter, sexier girls who are better dancers and lip synchers. And that's about all she can do. [Edited 9/16/04 14:58pm] um, i have a sneaking suspicion if they were just floating around, britney's day would have come and gone. i'm sure there are a lot of mediocre singers and dancers just as talented as britney. maybe they lack stage presence, though. maybe they lack the drive or determination. maybe they are not willing to sacrifice the things required to sacrifice. who knows. regardless, britney is here and they are not. Yeah, too bad! Because P. Diddy is there and "they" are not. And so is Ashanti! Talent is no longer a priority for labels. You honestly don't believe that there are more talented girls out there than Britney? That's their undoing, that talent. Talent doesn't distinguish you like a great rack and a head full of air does. [Edited 9/16/04 15:10pm] | |
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My thoughts: If Madonna were to come out today she wouldn't have had the same success she did, mainly because people have become so critical of the music bizz in recent times, which isn't going to save it.
I'm not a Britney fan but i would never pick on her because she indeed did work hard for what she got. Whether you believe it or not there is more to an image to get in the music business. I was watching Brit's performance on the Micky Mouse Club and you know what, she wasn't that bad, honestly. Sure her sexual image has a lot to do with her success, but everyone has an image, you have to in order to survive. Is Britney processed? YES BUT so is Kylie, Madonna, Cher, Janet and all the successful female stars with the longevity under their belt. Im a huge Madonna fan but im not afriad to admit that she was a self processed pop star. Britney is a great dancer, an ok singer and marketable. I enjoy some of her music, and to say she's talentless is wrong! Is she littered in talent, no not at all but calling her talentless is just utter garbage. Give the girl a break, yes i think she is dumb when she talks and stuff, but honestly people. | |
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mchotsie said: If u can't sing, dance, write, etc. then u shouldn't be in the MUSIC industry. Join a circus if u just wanna ENTERTAIN. Look at the people that have gone down in musical history: Santana, Zeppelin, Clapton, The Doors, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Joni Mitchell, Hendrix, etc. These were people that belonged in the music industry. It just really bugs me how the industry has really takin a dive into a big craphole. How come when I was young, the bands and musicians that were big then actually had some talent.
Nowadays, what the teenie boppers seem to like is CRAP CRAP CRAP.....what a shame
The Music industry hasn't taken a dive. Every decade has crappy teeny-bopper music. Yesterday's Partridge Family and New Kids On The Block are today's Britney Spears and 'NSYNC. Crappy music has always been here and will always be here. To get really upset about it is useless. | |
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BACK 2 THE F*#&$ TOPIC
What about the video and song guys???? like i say again.. bad remake Ok video Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records. | |
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When you folks stop fighting, can you answer this question, IS IT ANY GOOD???
( Boy I love it when folks endlessly battle here and the topic spins out of control ). Jeux Sans Frontiers | |
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I'm not a Britney fan, but I think that she has talent.
In fact, I watched a VH1 Behind the Music (?) broadcast about Britney, and she was actually in a Broadway (maybe off-Broadway) show when she was just a little girl. I mean, you've got to have a big voice to be able to do that. In fact, according to the clips on this show, Britney had a huge voice when she started out and danced exceptionally well. I don't know what exactly happened, but I think her management team just focused on marketing her sex-appeal rather than really developing her talent. And unfortunately, music industry executives have "swallowed her up," and now seem to be in the process of spitting her out. The girl looks and sounds a mess. I know that Britney and family have made millions, but money doesn't nurture the soul. In a way, I feel a little sorry for her 'coz she seemed to have been a sweet girl. | |
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SassyBritches said: mchotsie said: If u can't sing, dance, write, etc. then u shouldn't be in the MUSIC industry. Join a circus if u just wanna ENTERTAIN. Look at the people that have gone down in musical history: Santana, Zeppelin, Clapton, The Doors, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Joni Mitchell, Hendrix, etc. These were people that belonged in the music industry. It just really bugs me how the industry has really takin a dive into a big craphole. How come when I was young, the bands and musicians that were big then actually had some talent. Nowadays, what the teenie boppers seem to like is CRAP CRAP CRAP.....what a shame
If u like Britney, then like her for her tight little body and her cutsie little smile and that's it! Honestly, its hard to believe that someone who is truly into Prince and his music would even give Britney the time of day....but that's just me where to even begin... i hope you didn't/don't like appolonia 6, vanity 6, or MOST of the prince proteges considering they didn't write, couldn't dance worth a crap, couldn't sing, blah, blah, blah. when they left prince and tried to be successes on their own we see what happened. personally, i don't think brit's voice is nearly as bad as some people make it out to be...just my opinion. judging from her success, i'm not the only one who thinks that way. your requirements for entry into he music biz reate a lot of problems because MOST of the "greats" from the past DID NOT write, produce, play, etc. there own songs. you list a bunch of historical people in that list...and, yes, they are great contributors to musi history. why does everyone in the business have to be "the best of the best"? if you want to ponder the world's problems or enjoy intricate arrangements, lyrics, harmonies, etc. then great...throw on some beatles, some beasties, some bjork, prince, joni mitchell, bob dylan...whoever. to act as though ALL of world needs to subscribe to those styles to enjoy music is incredibly closeminded. i find it hard to believe that someone who is truly into prince would "poo-poo" some cheese in their musical diet. i find it hard to believe that someone who's truly into prince would be so narrow minded when it comes to music. #1 No, I didn't like Prince's hot little proteges to be honest with you. Maybe when I was young I found a certain "mystique" surrounding them, but that was just because I knew they were in contact with Prince on a regular basis. #2 Britney has no voice. Can she sing outside of a studio? Even in a studio, she doesn't sound good. You said, "Judging from her success, I'm not the only one who thinks that way..." Well, who is responsible for the majority of her success? 9 year old little girls that beg their mommy to buy them everything Britney because of how she has been marketed. Her success and huge income has nothing to do with her singing ability - and this is the downfall of the music industry as we know it today. If ur hot looking and u have a bubbly personality u can make millions as a "recording artist" because there r millions of little kiddies worldwide that have the cashflow to buy this crap. #3 I am aware that many of the legends from the past either didn't write or produce their own material. But, they had talent.....they could hold a note.....sing a tune on occassion. #4 Not everyone in the music industry needs to be "the best of the best" as u stated. Of course, people have different tastes, etc. I don't like country music, but I can still appreciate the talent of someone like Dolly Parton or Kenny Rogers. Some people like Pearl Jam.....some people like Sade. These people r not the "best of the best" but they r at least musically talented and deserving of being in the "music industry". #5 I don't "poo-poo" cheese in general.....but I do "poo-poo" cheese when its being touted as being musically talented. As a big admirer of Prince's music, I am not "narrow-minded when it comes to music" as u put it. A thread about Britney Spears is not a thread about "music" so that comment doesn't even apply. | |
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kisscamille said: SassyBritches said: how so? You're kidding right??
Hello!! She can't sing at all. Can't play any instruments! Can't dance either - she does stripper moves, not dancing! What more do you need?? WAIT BRITNEY OR BOBBY BROWN? P o o |/, P o o |\ | |
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I have to do a deconstruction on Britney Spears. |
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CynicKill said: I have to do a deconstruction on Britney Spears.
"Upon releasing the flux valve, some depressurization of the cranium may occur. Use part ref. #ZP38383C to realign....." | |
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Britney's last few videos -- everytime, toxic, slave 4 you -- have been waayyy better than this.
I thought, both the video and song were boring -- although it did make me play bobby's old version. I kept thinking .. .when is this song goign to end. Fake marrying Kevin in it was boring too. Nothing made an impact. Sounds like she actually samples Bobby's voice in her song, did anyone hear that? While I was among those chanting this stay-out-of-my-business song in the 80's, it's just not as moving coming from her. Didn't buy the words or the posture. And when she sang "Ain't nothing wrong with spreading myself around" I cringed. She should have definitely changed that line. Sounds too slutty. | |
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HORRID! What is up with the Minnie Mouse voice! Brit just go away. | |
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  Ohhh you keep saying stay the niiiiiiiiight
Just let me rock you 'til the morning liiiiiiight It's cold outside And much too late to driiiiiiiive You know I need you baby I'm so lost without your love Mariah Carey - Stay The Night  | |
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Just watched the vid. Shockingly enough, it's just like every other Britney video - Britney does wild & crazy things ("OMG, like, did you see her totally drive that car into a pool. Bitchin'"), manages to get wet, and writhes around a lot. How inventive.
The cover is horrid. She's turned it into an electro nightmare - something along the lines of Holly Valance's "State Of Mind". | |
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