SquirrelMeat said:

Out of their asses, it seems.

kev1n said:

speeddemon is an MJ fanatic. All useful dialogue with him stops right there.

I just clicked on this thread for the first time because I thought it was about penis size.

minneapolisgenius said:

The biggest prick? You need us to answer that????

2 completely different artists being compared.... ahhh a;lsditja;sldkjt;

Musicology2004 said:

I'm sorry, but as great an entertainer as Elvis was and as influential as a performer, he is not an artist at all by today's standards. Granted it wasn't the norm for performers to write their own material, but many of the other rock and roll pioneers did namely Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Buddy Holly and they were all close to, if not the equals of Elvis as performers.

SquirrelMeat said:

SquirrelMeat said:I'd love to know where some poeples "facts" come from.

Have you guys never travelled? Spend some time in Asia and Africa and you'll find Elvis is a hell of a lot more popular than Bob Marley. Walk into a shop in Egypt for example, you'll have a lot better chance of finding 3 Elvis albums and seeing sight of Bobs "Legend". Elvis is truely global, without even touring.

I actually live in Europe and usually travel in Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia. Believe me, MJ an Bob Marley are much more important than Elvis there.
In the rest of the world, it's pretty much the same.
Elvis is just, like Marylin and John Wayne, outside of Ameica, a relic of old fashioned Americanism.
Icons such as Michael Jordan and Jackson are the new torchbearer of American culture as a global culture.
In Africa, Elvis is barely known while Michael has even been crowned king there (back in 1992) when he was welcomed by 100 of thousands of people .

There's no point quoting billboard 100 stats only. Thats not the whole picture. Try the world.

That's pretty much in America and in the UK that Elvis was the better charting artist. In the rest of the world, MJ had much more #1s.
For example, MJ had 8 #1s on the Dutch Charts VS 0 for Elvis
8 #1s on the French chart VS 1 for Elvis
9 #1s in Ireland VS 7 for Elvis
12#1s in Belgium VS 7 for Elvis
7 #1s in Italy VS 1 for Elvis
12 #1s in Spain VS 0 for Elvis

In the US, MJ has had 13 #1s as solo artist and 4 with the Jackson 5 on the Billboard Hot 100.
Elvis's had 14 #1s on Billboard, invluding 7 on the Hot 100.


Elvis is the official Guiness Book Of World Records holder for the most records sold. 117.5 million albums, and 211 million singles. That doesn't include the last 2 number one albums (the first one sold something like 8.5m).

MJ has been awarded Best selling male artist of the Millenium by IFPI (International Federation of The Phonographic Industry), which is the only organism that tabulates world sales, through its ingerence on local music industries.

MJ and Paul Mc Cartney sold more records during their entire careers than Elvis.

Elvis is the official world record holder of the most number one singles. Not simply the USA stats.

Totally untrue

Aloha from Hawaii was the first TV programme to register 1 billion viewers.


Hype and propaganda, not offical numbers.
Let's try this one:

The 10 most watched entertainment shows in TV history:

1. M.A.S.H., CBS, February 28, 1983, 50.1 million
2. Dallas, CBS, November 21, 1980, 41.4 million
3. The Day After, ABC, November 20, 1983, 38.5 million
4. Michael Jackson talks To Oprah, ABC, February 10, 1993, 36.5 million.
5. Roots, Part 8, ABC, January30, 1977, 36.3 million.

For the record, I do not own an Elvis recording. I think his music is pretty cool, I think his films suck, But credit where credit is due.

i am sure of your good motivations.
Unfortunately, and being totally objective, a lot of people like myself looks at MJ as the biggest artist ever.
However, I am aware that some give more importance to Elvis either.




When Elvis will be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize, when he'll be the hero of video games and cartoons, then he will rise on my estim.

good job speeddemon. cool info, cheers for that

LightOfArt said:

Too bad Elvis has 17 #1 hits on Billboard (notice I didn't say Hot 100, speeddemon, just so you don't get tickled over the semantics again).

speeddemon said:

Two notes:

1. Do you like or admire anyone who isn't Michael Jackson? Or are they just "relics" of American cultural desolation too (you should note that the average guy on the street considers MJ a freak and/or a cultural relic himself, so I have to laugh at your claims of objectivity)?
2. Nominee lists for the Nobel Prizes are never released. MJ could have easily had his people trump up the hype for that one, without even being nominated. It's not like he doesn't suffer from delusions of grandeur. And getting nominated for the Peace Prize doesn't count for shit - after all, they gave one to Henry Kissinger of all people .
[Edited 9/17/04 11:04am]

Ok why don't we stop fighting but here's a statement to end off this note.....

There is one king
And there is one self procclaimed king

Who will be your leader?

jayaredee said:

Chuck Berry