Mastodon said:

What do mean "insensitive"? Sure, Lenny has a white father, but his dominant gene is his black one. So for all intents and purposes, he's a brother.

And I made that comment about "the man" because it's the truth. Rock & Roll came from The Blues which was an indigenous black art form. And something that must never be forgotten.

Dewrede said:

Yeah, but at least he puts it all together himself. Writing, producing, arranging. Maybe he's not the greatest guitar player, fine. But he can craft some good songs.

steelyd said:

Its really a damn shame that he stole your brothers material. As for Lenny being the only black rock god, I think that he is undeserving of that title. This is a title that should be given to individuals such as Hendrix, Vernon Reid, and .

Prince isn't black to me ,neither is Kravitz

Dewrede said:

Prince is black and Lenny is biracial.

vainandy said:

However, he considers himself to be black. His viewpoint is similar to that of Halle Berry who also shares that same perspective. Both of them have voiced their viewpoints in numerous interviews.

I've seen these interviews also. I don't necessarily agree with them but it is their lives.

I have nephews that are interracial. We expose them equally to both sides of their family, both the black and the white and they seem to love us all equally. Of course, they love my mother the most because she spoils them. We also try to teach them a strong sense of self worth and hope they consider themselves the best of both worlds, regardless of what their peers say.

I for one, do not agree with the mentality that one drop of black blood makes you black. I see that as the old slave master brain manipulation. I see them as 50/50 black/white with no race dominating over the other.

vainandy said:

but its not about how you view them but how they view themselves...Lenny and halle view themselves as black ppl....Alicia says she's bi racial.....Tiger says he's....uh...something....so its about self identification. As someone who has bi racial niece and nephew and two small cousins, of course there is a balance and the kids love everyone but there will be a time when THEY will identify with one race or the other or say they are biracial.

I also think that lenny and halle may say they are black because of experiences with race and racism.....maybe its about how they are treated that has made them "choose" if you will. But because they have made a decision to say they are black doesn't mean that they don't think they have the best of both worlds or that the don't love or appreciate their jewish/white family.

I just don't think its up to anyone to tell a person how to identify themselves even a child.

Dewrede said:

Then what do you consider them to be?

DavidEye said:

Human beings

DavidEye said:

Biracial

HowComeUdontBanMeAnymore said:

Wouldn't it be great if all of society shared your same views.

Rhondab said:

Ditto.

NWF said:

Lenny X? Power to the People!!!

Dewrede said:

If that's how you feel, then about 98% of blacks born in the US are biracial....whether it be European blood from an immediate parent or great-great-great grandparent...Not to mention many black americans have Indian blood. If a prejudice sales clerk follows me around the store in my Khaki pants, all she sees is a black person..not the european and Indian blood I have in my ancestory. Black people come in all different shades.

Hotlegs said:

WHAT IF COP VIEW PEOPLE LIKE THAT

SAY WHITE GUY ROB BANK INSTEAD OF GUY WHO LOOK LIKE LENNY

OTHER COP GO

BE ON LOOKOUT FOR HUMAN BEING!

UM OK SENSITIVE COP

Dewrede said:

PurpleCharm said:

WHAT THEN?

BIPHOBIC?

How did this topic go from a discussion of




to talking about race matters?


Sheeesh! Where are your priorities, people???

Hotlegs said:

I was just responding to that comment , that's all .

I have a funny Lenny story, I'll keep it short, but it shows what he's like..

I was working at a recording studio where Lenny was doing a radio show special for about 100 fans. Lenny was late and made everbody wait outside for an hour, but he was a perfectionsit about the sound he was getting during soundcheck and a true professional. His sound man hated him, but Lenny was right, he is like Prince and wants "asses wigglin, he wants perfection!"

Anyway, all the fans had left and Lenny was in the control room, and the door was open. the bathroom was about 50 feet away through the lounge. Lenny made a cop escort him to the bathroom thinking he may get mobbed. But when he went out to the lounge noone was there, so there was this cop escorting Lenny 50 feet to the bathroom with noone else around except me and my friend who were trying not to laugh. It was a total Spinal Tap moment!

Something about Lenny trying so hard to act and dress cool, he just isn't. Where Prince is just cool, he makes it seem more real and doesnt even have to try.

PrettyMan72 said:

want to commend you for addressing this point b/c alot of people are not aware or don't want to face the facts about Black Americans.
[Edited 9/14/04 20:38pm]

Mastodon said:

So what would you consider Frederick Douglas??? He has a biracial background but he is considered blackto most. In America Many biracial kids tend to lean more to there black side were they are more accepted and not as difffernt than they are from their white relatives. Some identify with the white side (this usually based on the place they are raised) . Many time the Black gene dominates(other times its doesnt), for example if you saw Lenny, Lisa Bonet, Halle Berry walking down the street you would ithink that they are just black beacuse of theylarge variety of shades Blacks and latinos for that matter come in. Other people look mixed like Slash, Alicia Keys, Mya ect.

I just had to open up my mouth, didn't I?

Soulchild82 said:

Soulchild82 said:

I don't give a shit one way or another about any of that crap.

Does Lenny Kravitz despise his father? If not, calling him "the man" is rude as hell.

It would be like seeing a "white" person with a black mother or father and saying some stupid shit about showing those ignorant blacks how to play rock. Do you not see that???

HowComeUdontBanMeAnymore said:

Well,yes they are human beings.Black human beings

Soulchild82 said:

Thems is some good pickins

I was just in Seattle readin up on hendrix (@ The EMP)... trust me his influence is very much alive!

But personally when im listening 2 anything... i don't think about whether it's black or white... it's just music 2me. After all... all musicians r a race in their own right, anyways... rnt they