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PrintableMusically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys. | |
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Harlepolis said: Musically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Harle!!! Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys.  
I don't really have much to add to what you've already said. Had Alicia not been hyped up,she probably would have appealed to me more. I bought the first album, listened to it, gave it away. Same with the second. I am really trying hard to figure out what the hell everybody is talking about with this chick. She has an average voice. Nowhere near the vocal skills or talent of Jill or India or Angie or Ms. Lizz Wright but wait up: They don't look like her so I guess it's hard to promote someone with talent and not society's idea of a beauty queen. Alicia plays piano: Big fucking deal. So can I. | |
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Harlepolis said: Musically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys.  agree with alot of your statements b/c they were right on espcially the comment about lack of orginaility. Lately, I must say that Lenny's music has been kinda lacking orginality especially with this current album.  Female Lenny Kravitz is an interesting comparison considering that he is a rock artist. think I would put her as female Babyface since a great deal of success has in Urban Contemporary instead of Rock. | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: Harlepolis said: Musically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Harle!!! Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys.
I don't really have much to add to what you've already said. Had Alicia not been hyped up,she probably would have appealed to me more. I bought the first album, listened to it, gave it away. Same with the second. I am really trying hard to figure out what the hell everybody is talking about with this chick. She has an average voice. Nowhere near the vocal skills or talent of Jill or India or Angie or Ms. Lizz Wright but wait up: They don't look like her so I guess it's hard to promote someone with talent and not society's idea of a beauty queen. Alicia plays piano: Big fucking deal. So can I. Yeah. What you said.  "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: Harlepolis said: Musically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Harle!!! Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys.
I don't really have much to add to what you've already said. Had Alicia not been hyped up,she probably would have appealed to me more. I bought the first album, listened to it, gave it away. Same with the second. I am really trying hard to figure out what the hell everybody is talking about with this chick. She has an average voice. Nowhere near the vocal skills or talent of Jill or India or Angie or Ms. Lizz Wright but wait up: They don't look like her so I guess it's hard to promote someone with talent and not society's idea of a beauty queen. Alicia plays piano: Big fucking deal. So can I. I have to admit that I somewhat agree with you both. Alicia doesn't have the voice of India or Jill, but at least she can play live and isn't doing the Ashanti or Beyonce thing. As far as pop/R&B goes, I like Alicia, but there are certainly many others that have more talent. We all know that the "beautiful people" get noticed and promoted, but IMO at least Alicia isn't lip-syncing her songs and bouncing her titties every chance she gets. On a scale of 1-10 I would give both of her cd's a 6. Not great, but not too bad either. I have both Jill and India's cd's and they are fantastic without all the hype. | |
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Hotlegs said: Harlepolis said: Musically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys. agree with alot of your statements b/c they were right on espcially the comment about lack of orginaility. Lately, I must say that Lenny's music has been kinda lacking orginality especially with this current album. Female Lenny Kravitz is an interesting comparison considering that he is a rock artist. think I would put her as female Babyface since a great deal of success has in Urban Contemporary instead of Rock.Nah, as much as corny Babyface's mucis is, he ain't trying to sound like anybody else out-there(or should I say, he WASN'T trying) I give him that. | |
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kisscamille said: TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: Harle!!!
I don't really have much to add to what you've already said. Had Alicia not been hyped up,she probably would have appealed to me more. I bought the first album, listened to it, gave it away. Same with the second. I am really trying hard to figure out what the hell everybody is talking about with this chick. She has an average voice. Nowhere near the vocal skills or talent of Jill or India or Angie or Ms. Lizz Wright but wait up: They don't look like her so I guess it's hard to promote someone with talent and not society's idea of a beauty queen. Alicia plays piano: Big fucking deal. So can I. I have to admit that I somewhat agree with you both. Alicia doesn't have the voice of India or Jill, but at least she can play live and isn't doing the Ashanti or Beyonce thing. As far as pop/R&B goes, I like Alicia, but there are certainly many others that have more talent. We all know that the "beautiful people" get noticed and promoted, but IMO at least Alicia isn't lip-syncing her songs and bouncing her titties every chance she gets. On a scale of 1-10 I would give both of her cd's a 6. Not great, but not too bad either. I have both Jill and India's cd's and they are fantastic without all the hype. | |
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Harlepolis said: Musically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys. So you think that she needs to work on finding her individual sound? As far as Alicia live, I heard that she was pretty good. She doesn't do any costume changes and I thought that she focused mostly on the music. When did you see her? Studiotraffic-One of the fastest ways to get payed on the net! | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: kisscamille said: I have to admit that I somewhat agree with you both. Alicia doesn't have the voice of India or Jill, but at least she can play live and isn't doing the Ashanti or Beyonce thing. As far as pop/R&B goes, I like Alicia, but there are certainly many others that have more talent. We all know that the "beautiful people" get noticed and promoted, but IMO at least Alicia isn't lip-syncing her songs and bouncing her titties every chance she gets. On a scale of 1-10 I would give both of her cd's a 6. Not great, but not too bad either. I have both Jill and India's cd's and they are fantastic without all the hype. I'm gonna get the new Anita Baker this week. I have all her others and she's a woman who can definitely sing!!! | |
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dragondayz said: Harlepolis said: Musically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys. So you think that she needs to work on finding her individual sound? Hell Yes! As far as Alicia live, I heard that she was pretty good. She doesn't do any costume changes and I thought that she focused mostly on the music. When did you see her? 2wice! her Ladis Night tour and her previous tour ... | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: Harlepolis said: Musically? She's the female Lenny Kravits, both are talented musicians with instruments under their hands to improve themselves but NO sense of individuality whatsoever. Everytime I hear Alicia, I hear somebody else,,,When I hear her, I don't LISTEN to Alicia, I listen to Stevie/Marvin/Aretha/Curtis/Mary J and etc etc,,,I don't LISTEN to the actual person singing those songs. Speaking of which, how she ripped off some folks(Mind you I said RIPPED OFF, not influenced by) and not getting sued is beyond me. Check this list:
Harle!!! Fallen-Its A Man's World By James Brown The Life-Super Fly & Freddie's Dead By Curtis Mayfield Nobody Not Really-You Sure Love To Ball By Marvin Gaye And many other tunes which takes alot from Isaac Hayes & Mary J(singing wise). I was so excited to hear "Rock Wit U"(conducted by Isaac Hayes & his orchestra) from the Shaft OST and I felt the promise of a new talent but instead all I got was an album full of songs with a cliche attempt at trying to capture the "ol' school feel" just becoz its the thing to do these days rather than hearing what SHE individualy sounds like. You don't go nowhere by being "The Next So & So" she has potentials but she don't use 'em. Live-wise? Full of gimmickry and shallowness, she has a tight band but all I see is so much of focusing on the lightings, the decorations, the dancing, the fashion and the whole fluffy shebang. Why not take an advantage of what you have? Use that great band. I know where to go if I wanna see a novelty broadway show, shit all I want is a str8 up LIVE pre4mance without any hoop-la. Image-wise? To me she comes across as fake with a phony bulloni accent/act. Ain't no way you're fooling anybody with that "street" I-Walk-Around-With-A-Knife-In-My-Pocket talk/act shit thinking you came from the ghetto when you came from a working-class household and raised by an ACTRESS. What are you trying to gain from that bullshit? Street credibility. Then again, I think thats was Clive's vision at making this "Mary J Meets Roberta" image which is appealing to the masses. Either way, I sense a good heart in that woman and I hate to see her putting a fake ass front for the sake of youth's exceptence or whateva's on her mind. Thats my "honest-to-god" opinion about Alicia Keys.
I don't really have much to add to what you've already said. Had Alicia not been hyped up,she probably would have appealed to me more. I bought the first album, listened to it, gave it away. Same with the second. I am really trying hard to figure out what the hell everybody is talking about with this chick. She has an average voice. Nowhere near the vocal skills or talent of Jill or India or Angie or Ms. Lizz Wright but wait up: They don't look like her so I guess it's hard to promote someone with talent and not society's idea of a beauty queen. Alicia plays piano: Big fucking deal. So can I. See I can't blame the hype totally on Alicia. IMO it was the record labels way of getting her out there and heard. For some people she will always have to measure up to that but I see the hype for what it was and I tend to judge her on other things. So Alicia has none of your respect musically? If she worked on her vocals and piano skills would she be okay in your book? Or is it that you just don't like her period? Studiotraffic-One of the fastest ways to get payed on the net! | |
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Harlepolis said: dragondayz said: So you think that she needs to work on finding her individual sound? Hell Yes! As far as Alicia live, I heard that she was pretty good. She doesn't do any costume changes and I thought that she focused mostly on the music. When did you see her? 2wice! her Ladis Night tour and her previous tour ... Oh so you saw her both times? Well did she improve with this recent Ladies First Tour or did she takes steps back from when you saw her previously? Studiotraffic-One of the fastest ways to get payed on the net! | |
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dragondayz said: Harlepolis said: ... Oh so you saw her both times? Well did she improve with this recent Ladies First Tour or did she takes steps back from when you saw her previously? What do you expect? Her crew wants her to compete with Beyonce's & Missy's bonified shows, of course it took steps back(more dancing, more ass shaking and more fluff). | |
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dragondayz said: TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: Harle!!!
I don't really have much to add to what you've already said. Had Alicia not been hyped up,she probably would have appealed to me more. I bought the first album, listened to it, gave it away. Same with the second. I am really trying hard to figure out what the hell everybody is talking about with this chick. She has an average voice. Nowhere near the vocal skills or talent of Jill or India or Angie or Ms. Lizz Wright but wait up: They don't look like her so I guess it's hard to promote someone with talent and not society's idea of a beauty queen. Alicia plays piano: Big fucking deal. So can I. See I can't blame the hype totally on Alicia. IMO it was the record labels way of getting her out there and heard. For some people she will always have to measure up to that but I see the hype for what it was and I tend to judge her on other things. So Alicia has none of your respect musically? If she worked on her vocals and piano skills would she be okay in your book? Or is it that you just don't like her period? | |
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Harlepolis said: dragondayz said: Oh so you saw her both times? Well did she improve with this recent Ladies First Tour or did she takes steps back from when you saw her previously? What do you expect? Her crew wants her to compete with Beyonce's & Missy's bonified shows, of course it took steps back(more dancing, more ass shaking and more fluff). See, I thougtht that she danced a bit on her previous tour and I expected something besides her sitting behind the piano for songs like Heartburn. I think that she's doing similar routines overseas but I wonder will her routine change if she comes back and tour again in the U.S. It seems that she'll be a bit more comfortable with her own tour but who knows. Hate to hear of her takin steps back. Things seem kind of tricky for her because it's like if she isn't there yet musically, then pressure might get stronger for her to compete with her peers. Studiotraffic-One of the fastest ways to get payed on the net! | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: dragondayz said: See I can't blame the hype totally on Alicia. IMO it was the record labels way of getting her out there and heard. For some people she will always have to measure up to that but I see the hype for what it was and I tend to judge her on other things. So Alicia has none of your respect musically? If she worked on her vocals and piano skills would she be okay in your book? Or is it that you just don't like her period? Oh okay. Wow who in the world would have anything bad to say about Anita? Anyway I get what your saying about her coming into her own. I would love to see that too. But for the most part I think that the hype surrounding Alicia as far as her being a prodigy and etc. has died down. I'm happy for that because it isn't nearly as bad as when she first came out. Hopefully this will give her room to grow. Studiotraffic-One of the fastest ways to get payed on the net! | |
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It seems like there was a big push to showcase her as a very intelligent singer songwriter who speaks very honestly about love and doesn't sell out and does things her way...and then she does something like "My Boo" with Usher, where she sounds like a second rate Beyonce. Shame! | |
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VinnyM27 said: It seems like there was a big push to showcase her as a very intelligent singer songwriter who speaks very honestly about love and doesn't sell out and does things her way...and then she does something like "My Boo" with Usher, where she sounds like a second rate Beyonce. Shame!
Ugh, Alicia has gotten into so much trouble with this My Boo song. Her fans have gotten on her for it, believe me. It was something that I wanted to hear her try, I will never keep or put her in a box. Wanted to hear her try that sound, don't like it, hopefully she moves from it lol. Studiotraffic-One of the fastest ways to get payed on the net! | |
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Love Alicia, and she kicks ass in concert...  prove me wrong | |
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I enjoy listening to Alicia. I believe the media places these labels on artists (crowning them the next Stevie/Marvin) whatever and then the fans get upset. Alicia is talented period, her lyrics, rhythm, and vocal arrangements are far better than alot of the mesh we're hearing today. Yes she's sampled (something that I truly hate) but who hasn't
Mary J. Blige="love is all we need" sampled from Rick James Moonchild Brandy's first song=straight sample from Michael J. Off the Wall album Beyonce=crazy in love sample from old Temptations track (horns) Angie Stone=sampled from Glady's Knight and the list unforturnatly goes on. This is a day where creativity has been thrown out the window, for a quick radio jam with no meaning and no purpose. As long as folks continue to buy it, they'll continue producing it! It's that simple. I give Alicia props because she's not trying to be like these other artists and put out "fast food" songs that last a hot minute, if not that. | |
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dragondayz said: So I'm hearing things about her voice. Alicia has a heavy voice that's kind of monotone in my opinion. Can work be done to those type of voices since it's heavy?
It's not about the heaviness in vocals. She's actually a very good singer if she would calm down when she's singing. Great vocalist know how to breathe and take there time when they are performing Everything with Alicia seems rushed. She tries to hard to PROVE that she CAN sing, she doesn't take time to create ambiance with her vocals and she ends up cracking. She hasn't learn the art of drawing people in to make them want to hear what your saying. She's too busy bellowing and trying to do vocal acrobats. | |
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steelyd said: dragondayz said: So I'm hearing things about her voice. Alicia has a heavy voice that's kind of monotone in my opinion. Can work be done to those type of voices since it's heavy?
It's not about the heaviness in vocals. She's actually a very good singer if she would calm down when she's singing. Great vocalist know how to breathe and take there time when they are performing Everything with Alicia seems rushed. She tries to hard to PROVE that she CAN sing, she doesn't take time to create ambiance with her vocals and she ends up cracking. She hasn't learn the art of drawing people in to make them want to hear what your saying. She's too busy bellowing and trying to do vocal acrobats. Intersting. Of course, if an artist truly has vocal talent, he/she wouldnt' need to worry about bellowing, doing vocal acrobats, and being rushed. With true vocal talented vocalist, everything falls in play naturally including pitch. respect your opinion . However, it is evident that a vocal coach is in order for Alicia.[Edited 9/13/04 22:41pm] | |
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I think that Alicia is one of the most talented female singer/songwriter among her contemporaries.
I mean who is in the same age bracket as Keys... Beyonce, Britney, Christina, Missy, Ashanti, Monica, Brandy I am not knocking any of them, I just think Alicia singing, songwriter and playing the piano is a 1,2,3 knockout. Also the songs she write about have more emotional punch than rage against the music or whatever Britney last hit was about. Ok I lied about not knocking any of them... Britney who fashions herself to be the next Madonna... she can forget about it! Madonna actually had something to say when she wrote some of her songs (like a prayer, papa don't preach) "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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UptownDeb said: sosgemini said: lets not and say we did?
or better yet....who is butcher: maude or alicia?  I've never thought about Maude as butch. Alicia yes, but Maude? 
Anyways, is it just me, or does the melody to "Secrets" (I think that's the name of her latest) sound a little like the Police's "Wrapped Around Your Finger?" I don't hear it... maybe it is just you. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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UptownDeb said: sosgemini said: lets not and say we did?
or better yet....who is butcher: maude or alicia? I've never thought about Maude as butch. Alicia yes, but Maude?
Anyways, is it just me, or does the melody to "Secrets" (I think that's the name of her latest) sound a little like the Police's "Wrapped Around Your Finger?"  | |
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I believe Secrets sounds like Brian McKnight's "Have I ever Crossed you Mind" especially the piano | |
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cnutty77 said: I believe Secrets sounds like Brian McKnight's "Have I ever Crossed you Mind" especially the piano
That's more like it. |
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Didn't dig her at first, her cd just didn't live up to the hype for me. But live she's fantastic. Her second cd is much better than the first, but still doesn't knock it out the park. I think she's one of those you can depend on live but in record it's iffy. Girl is good...   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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