jn2 said:

And that one was so difficult to predict!

I predict that Jackie Stallone will have more horrendous plastic surgery

VoicesCarry said:

Christ thats her?
Damn Mike doesn't look too bad compared to her...

*shutters*

Im pretty young so i never really grew up with MJ, though i love his music and talent.

However one of my girlfriends is OBSESSED with MJ, hell she says she often dreams of having sex with MJ and asks me what kind of underwear he wears and what he wears to bed, as if i know.
In biology class she made me write a letter to MJ's fan mail adress and she kissed the letter as her signature with the lipstick.

Then was last November when all the allegations of MJ and child molestation came public. So she forced me to come to a candle light vigil for him in January after his first court appearance. I kid you not those fans are crazy. The news cameras were there and all, and i was interviewed though i tried to hide. So i said "Yeah i like MJ, he's innocent." If i didn't say that i would have been dead in two seconds with the anger of the MJ fans. The local gay magazine took our picture and took our names, so i was featured in that magazine. People were waving MJ pics and posters all over the place and the people on the streets laughed their asses off at us.
Then at the end we had to sit in a big circle in the snow, hold hands and sing "Heal the World" The whole time we were being filmed by the news station and people were hysterical on the streets and i was so embarassed. I had to take the bus home with my ass all wet, all for MJ. But we got to record a message to MJ and apparently these fan clubs have ways of putting it on MJ's front desk.

Anyways i'd like to think MJ didn't hurt that kid, but i dunno anymore

sorry
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while i really do hope mj is innocent, if sufficient and necessary evidence were established i would have be realistic. at the moment (as far as i know, at least) there has been no real evidence released to the press. all we know so far is that a kid and his mother have accused mj of crimes he was accused of in the past. both sides have questionable pasts (the mother and mj) and this does not make it any easier. i suppose we will just have to wait for the trial to begin and hear the evidence for ourselves.

First of all, he never admitted to paying anyone any money but Jordy and his family. Even then, he's insurance company covered the costs anyway . Also the settlement was for neglegance technically... not child molestation.

Second of all, if I was blindly following, that would mean I would have read nothing on the case. Well, I have read everything on the case and my personal conclusion is that he is most likely innocent. Are people not allowed to come to that conclusion?

WildStyle said:

that's how i feel. when i tell people i think he's innocent they immediately assume it is because i like his music. i'm not saying some are not reasoning that way but i have read so much and paid closer attention to this case than most of my classes throughout the past year, lol! there has been nothing offered (at least to the public) that would stand up in court. what has been discussed is highly circumstantial and looks most likely to be a shakedown attempt. the funny thing is that these people who think i only believe he's innocent based on the fact tat i like his music are the same people that only believe he's guilty based on his eccentricities and nothing to do with the actual merits of the case.

I HATE TO SAY, BUT I WASHED MY HANDS WITH MJ WHEN THE SECOND ALLEGATION CAME UP!
WHEN HE HAD THAT BOY ON T.V. AND STATED THAT HE STILL SLEEP WITH KIDS I SAID YOU CAN KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE, DUMMY! LIKE THESEXOFIT SAID THAT'S SUICIDE! I GREW UP WITH J5 FIRST TIME SEEING THEM IN CONCERT AT THE OLYMPIA IN DETROIT BACK IN THE 70'S, AND STILL TO THIS DAY WHEN I HEAR HIS SONGS I'M IN MJ FAN MODE HARD AND WILL ALWAYS BE A HUGE FAN OF THE JACKSON, BUT THAT BIG DUMMY BROUGHT EVERYTHING ON HIMSELF










MICHAEL AND HIS BROTHERS WILL ALWAYS BE ME CHILDHOOD HERO'S

right...and the next time someone takes advantage of you because of something you've said, regardless of the harmless nature of the statement, you should remember those typed words above.

The Man needs to Grow up

You can't be peter pan forever

Luv4oneanotha said:

I disagree. MJ or anybody should be allowed to do whatever they feel suites them so long as it is legal.

SO, if he or anybody wanted to be Peter Pan--that's fine with me.

It's being a 12-year old Peter Puffer that I find unerving.

AsianBomb777 said:

I think South Park said it best: "Let's assume that Mr. Jefferson is innocent, that the police have nothing better to do than frame him and that's he's really just a nice guy who's misunderstood and is trying to recapture the childhood he never had and that's fine. But he has a kid now and when you have children you have to grow up"

But anyway, I'm not convinced he's guilty and I am a fan of his music. But even if he's proven guilty I won't renounce his music. Does his music encourage pedophilia? Does he sing about pedophilia? Is MJ the only artist who's made good art that has a questionable personal life? There'd be precious few artists, musicians or otherwise, that I could listen to, or otherwise appreciate, if I felt the need to morally condemn their art as much as their personal actions.

You're just now coming to this conclusion?

edit my silly post..

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I've been a fan of MJ since 1974 when he was in the Jackson 5.But in recent years,I've really had to separate the man from the music.I have to do with this with some of my other favorite artists too,in order for me to still enjoy their music.Sadly,there are many great artists who have self-destructed in various ways (Sly Stone,Marvin Gaye,Elvis Presley,etc).But no matter what happens in this case,I'm holding on to my Jackson 5 and MJ albums.What's odd is that,R.Kelly is in the same boat,but nobody has really talked about throwing away his albums.In fact,he's more popular than ever.Go figure.

NadiaAdare said:

Unfortunately, I think u r right

DavidEye said:

Yeah, and with R. Kelly there's much more, and much more substantial, evidence against him. What the fuck is wrong with people. . Besides R. Kelly's way more of a hack than Michael is, no matter how much his detractors think he is.

If he is guilty (Im hoping he's not) i wont be affected. His private life is his own to choose, im a fan of his Music and Dance Skillz.

ZeemanUK said:

I am a fan of MJ, not a huge die hard but still a fan, and I dont believe this is completely true, but I still enjoy his music and will continue to whenever the truth comes out, if it ever does

Cloudbuster said:

You've got a valid point there CB. Seems that many new "witnesses" are coming forward, so if they really did see something, why didn't they try to do stop it or at least tell someone else about it. We may never know the real truth.

If the evidence proves to ME that Michael is guilty, I will stop listening to or purchasing his music. Even though I am not a diehard, I have pretty much everything Michael has released.

EXACTLY!!

EXACTLY!

Agree

Same over here

I pray you´re wrong! Mike has survived a lot of trauma in his life. I believe he´s stronger than we can ever imagine, because I bet all of us would be already in madhouse, if we were in his shoes! (Please God - I hope I haven´t overrated him!) The world has already lost enough of great talents!

I know R.Kelly's Guilty, but i still like his music (well how it use to be)

Good music is just good music...

The Personal Life of the Artist who created it is irrelevent.

R.Kelly may like minors but hey "Your body's callin me" will always be a classic
even if he is talking about a minor in the song
its still a classic!

I am seriously now questioning MJ's innocence, if not touching boys, then probably verbal titillation for his own sexual gratification.

R.Kelly was never a "hero" of mine, so there is really no comparison.

Luv4oneanotha said:

Damn, I hope all this is a joke.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

was partially joking

in my mind he is innocent till proven guitly...

no matter what the outcome, there arent enough lawsuits in the world to ruin the sound of his albums. Even if he would be found guilty...his albums will still sound as good as they ever did.

Luv4oneanotha said:

Uh yeah, I too felt that this was a little overboard.



I guess we each gotta draw the line where we see fit.

Gorillas in germany and a fan of Prince
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priceless said:

Mj is an unusual case