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Thread started 09/11/04 9:48am

LoveAlive

4 the JAZZ fans....

Does anyone have "Hard Groove" by Roy Hargrove..it came out in 2003 and features guests: Common, Erykah Badu, Mechelle Ndegeocello, D Angelo and Q Tip...I LOVE this cd! It is contemporary jazz with an urban feel to it..it is EXCELLENT!!!!! especially if you love the bass guitar...there's some MEAN licks on there...(esp..the song "Out of Town")




does anyone already have this CD?
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Reply #1 posted 09/11/04 11:55am

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Hargrove's hardcore jazz fan base will probably want nothing to do with this
even thought there are good tracks that the hip-hoppers are not on.
Hopefully it will show hip-hop listeners what original music played by, in this
case, funky jazz musicians can add to the evolution of the genre.

This would mean that the "rapping" contingent will have to step up their game to
keep pace with the improvisational skills of this type of musician. If you notice,
the "rapping" element was kept to a minimum.

Regarding your comment on the bass playing, Pino Palladino is all over this CD. thumbs up!

(Incidentally, Interlude sounds like the Family Name groove got pinched)


tA

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Reply #2 posted 09/11/04 11:58am

Hotlegs

LoveAlive said:

Does anyone have "Hard Groove" by Roy Hargrove..it came out in 2003 and features guests: Common, Erykah Badu, Mechelle Ndegeocello, D Angelo and Q Tip...I LOVE this cd! It is contemporary jazz with an urban feel to it..it is EXCELLENT!!!!! especially if you love the bass guitar...there's some MEAN licks on there...(esp..the song "Out of Town")




does anyone already have this CD?



hmmm This CD guest artist lineup seems pretty interesting and will be slammin. I will have to buy it.
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Reply #3 posted 09/11/04 12:28pm

LoveAlive

theAudience said:

Hargrove's hardcore jazz fan base will probably want nothing to do with this
even thought there are good tracks that the hip-hoppers are not on.
Hopefully it will show hip-hop listeners what original music played by, in this
case, funky jazz musicians can add to the evolution of the genre.

This would mean that the "rapping" contingent will have to step up their game to
keep pace with the improvisational skills of this type of musician. If you notice,
the "rapping" element was kept to a minimum.

Regarding your comment on the bass playing, Pino Palladino is all over this CD. thumbs up!

(Incidentally, Interlude sounds like the Family Name groove got pinched)


The Audience...
HARGROVE's hardcore fan base needs to sit down if they have a problem with this CD.....we always talk about how the young people knows nothing about REAL music.....Hargrove took the FEW real artists of this generation and assembled them on this CD.....I think that Hargrove coulda been using those artists to draw the young crowd to what REAL music is....even the tracks that Q Tip, Erykah and D Angelo are on are GOOD and dont sound like HARGROVE is trying to crossover or appeal to the masses...u noticed that even tho these younger artists are on this CD....they dont overshadow the music, instruements and arrangements...also, most of us on this board feel that we listen to REAL music...coincidentally..I have seen people on this board say that they listen to and LIKE all the guest artists that Hargrove has on this CD.....

Yes, INTERLUDE does remind you of FAMILY NAME...isnt that Meschell Ndegeocello on bass on INTERLUDE?

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Reply #4 posted 09/11/04 12:29pm

LoveAlive

Hotlegs said:

LoveAlive said:

Does anyone have "Hard Groove" by Roy Hargrove..it came out in 2003 and features guests: Common, Erykah Badu, Mechelle Ndegeocello, D Angelo and Q Tip...I LOVE this cd! It is contemporary jazz with an urban feel to it..it is EXCELLENT!!!!! especially if you love the bass guitar...there's some MEAN licks on there...(esp..the song "Out of Town")




does anyone already have this CD?



hmmm This CD guest artist lineup seems pretty interesting and will be slammin. I will have to buy it.



HOTLEGS..this is a EXCELLENT CD!!! I love it
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Reply #5 posted 09/11/04 12:30pm

Hotlegs

LoveAlive said:

Hotlegs said:




hmmm This CD guest artist lineup seems pretty interesting and will be slammin. I will have to buy it.



HOTLEGS..this is a EXCELLENT CD!!! I love it


Cool. I am going to have to buy it.
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Reply #6 posted 09/11/04 12:31pm

LoveAlive

Hotlegs said:

LoveAlive said:




HOTLEGS..this is a EXCELLENT CD!!! I love it


Cool. I am going to have to buy it.



HOTLEGS, when u do buy it..I would be interested in hearing your assessment of the CD..can you post it on here?
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Reply #7 posted 09/11/04 12:35pm

Hotlegs

LoveAlive said:

Hotlegs said:



Cool. I am going to have to buy it.



HOTLEGS, when u do buy it..I would be interested in hearing your assessment of the CD..can you post it on here?


wink Ok
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Reply #8 posted 09/11/04 12:48pm

theAudience

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LoveAlive said:

HARGROVE's hardcore fan base needs to sit down if they have a problem with this CD.....we always talk about how the young people knows nothing about REAL music.....Hargrove took the FEW real artists of this generation and assembled them on this CD.....I think that Hargrove coulda been using those artists to draw the young crowd to what REAL music is....even the tracks that Q Tip, Erykah and D Angelo are on are GOOD and dont sound like HARGROVE is trying to crossover or appeal to the masses...u noticed that even tho these younger artists are on this CD....they dont overshadow the music, instruements and arrangements...also, most of us on this board feel that we listen to REAL music...coincidentally..I have seen people on this board say that they listen to and LIKE all the guest artists that Hargrove has on this CD.....

Yes, INTERLUDE does remind you of FAMILY NAME...isnt that Meschell Ndegeocello on bass on INTERLUDE?


The point I should have made more clearly is that the "hardcore jazz fan base" I was referring to are not generally "young people" at all but older traditional jazz listeners.

Personally, I don't have a problem with these musical fusions and if it draws younger listeners to improvisational
musicians all the better.

This project also reminds me of what Quincy Jones did with Back On The Block on a much smaller scale.

The bass player on Interlude is Reggie Washington.

tA

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Reply #9 posted 09/11/04 12:52pm

LoveAlive

The Audience....I gotta question for you...what is the average age of the jazz listener/buyer? Can you provide any stats?? I'm curious to know....I'm 24 and I have been listening to jazz since FORVER...I had to be about 10 when BACK ON THE BLOCK came out and I played that LP(yes record LOL) backwards forward upside down and inside out...what do you think the avg jazz listener/buyer is..also how many copies on avg does the #1 jazz CD sell in a week?
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Reply #10 posted 09/11/04 12:55pm

LoveAlive

Also, the Audience

what did you think of the BIRD UP:CHARLIE PARKER REMIX PROJECT CD that came out last year? I thought it was interesting..I could appreaciate it biggrin
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Reply #11 posted 09/11/04 1:28pm

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LoveAlive said:

The Audience....I gotta question for you...what is the average age of the jazz listener/buyer? Can you provide any stats?? I'm curious to know....I'm 24 and I have been listening to jazz since FORVER...I had to be about 10 when BACK ON THE BLOCK came out and I played that LP(yes record LOL) backwards forward upside down and inside out...what do you think the avg jazz listener/buyer is..also how many copies on avg does the #1 jazz CD sell in a week?

Stats I couldn't give you.
(Knowing myself, i'll probably end up hunting this down)

Off the top of my head i'd guess the demographic would include the following:
~Music students exposed to jazz through a course of study
~Baby boomers exposed to the music through parents who played it in the home
~Younger listeners exposed to the music via projects like Hard Groove.
~The adventurous music listener (age not being an issue)
~Whatever categories I haven't included

Adding all these together, you've still got a relatively small number based on
diminishing jazz sales vs pop sales over the years.

Just my guess.

tA

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Reply #12 posted 09/11/04 1:38pm

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LoveAlive said:

Also, the Audience

what did you think of the BIRD UP:CHARLIE PARKER REMIX PROJECT CD that came out last year? I thought it was interesting..I could appreaciate it biggrin

I don't have the Bird Up release but have heard bits and pieces of it.
Some of the pieces I heard held my attention and others made me cringe.

Personally, i'm not a big fan of sampling and remixes anyway.
And messin' with Charlie Parker? Sounds blasphemous. lol

But I try and keep an open mind where music is concerned.

You see, I think somewhere out there is a young bad-ass Bird-influenced sax player. (probably quite a few)
Why not find that guy and do this kind of project?

Wishful thinking on my part maybe.

tA

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Reply #13 posted 09/11/04 7:34pm

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LoveAlive said:

Does anyone have "Hard Groove" by Roy Hargrove..it came out in 2003 and features guests: Common, Erykah Badu, Mechelle Ndegeocello, D Angelo and Q Tip...I LOVE this cd! It is contemporary jazz with an urban feel to it..it is EXCELLENT!!!!! especially if you love the bass guitar...there's some MEAN licks on there...(esp..the song "Out of Town")




does anyone already have this CD?

It's on my list now. deal
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #14 posted 09/11/04 7:40pm

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LoveAlive said:

Does anyone have "Hard Groove" by Roy Hargrove..it came out in 2003 and features guests: Common, Erykah Badu, Mechelle Ndegeocello, D Angelo and Q Tip...I LOVE this cd! It is contemporary jazz with an urban feel to it..it is EXCELLENT!!!!! especially if you love the bass guitar...there's some MEAN licks on there...(esp..the song "Out of Town")




does anyone already have this CD?



Ndeed! Funny...I just posted about this CD a few days ago on the "Favorite R&b Artists" thread...
" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #15 posted 09/11/04 7:53pm

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paligap said:

Ndeed! Funny...I just posted about this CD a few days ago on the "Favorite R&b Artists" thread...

I've been avoiding that thread because there'd be so many for me to list. sad

Now i'll have to go and read it just to see what you said. wink

tA

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Reply #16 posted 09/12/04 2:15am

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theAudience said:

LoveAlive said:



Yes, INTERLUDE does remind you of FAMILY NAME...isnt that Meschell Ndegeocello on bass on INTERLUDE?



The bass player on Interlude is Reggie Washington.



BTW, Reggie Washinghton is the bassist on most of Jean Paul Bourelly's CDs...
" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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Reply #17 posted 09/13/04 1:40am

Novabreaker

LoveAlive said:

..it came out in 2003 and features guests: Common, Erykah Badu, Mechelle Ndegeocello, D Angelo and Q Tip...


That's some jazz alright.
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Reply #18 posted 09/13/04 7:34pm

LoveAlive

Novabreaker said:

LoveAlive said:

..it came out in 2003 and features guests: Common, Erykah Badu, Mechelle Ndegeocello, D Angelo and Q Tip...


That's some jazz alright.

u have the CD NOVABREAKER?
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Reply #19 posted 09/14/04 12:49am

Novabreaker

LoveAlive said:

Novabreaker said:



That's some jazz alright.

u have the CD NOVABREAKER?


No. I was being sarcastic.
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