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Reply #30 posted 08/20/04 11:26am

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this coming from someone who likes a piece of shit like new power soul. dude, youve got some shitty taste in music. what else are you into, winger? dont mean to flame, but im baffled!
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Reply #31 posted 08/20/04 4:25pm

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Ashtheking said:

this coming from someone who likes a piece of shit like new power soul. dude, youve got some shitty taste in music. what else are you into, winger? dont mean to flame, but im baffled!


falloff that's just wrong. winger...falloff
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Reply #32 posted 08/20/04 4:33pm

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One of the few uncompromising artists out there....even more so than Prince...IMHO.

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Reply #33 posted 08/20/04 4:38pm

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VoicesCarry said:

minneapolisgenius said:


lol I love Bjork, but that was a funny analogy. She kind of lost me there for a bit, but I tend to just listen to her older stuff now. I am really loving the live box though. A lot of her songs sound so much better live, IMO.


PLUS, she's got some of the coolest videos out there. Now I'm not one to even watch MTV if I can help it, and I personally think videos have basically caused the downfall of good music, but if I have to watch anyone's videos, it will be Bjork's.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 19 12:19:59 2004 by minneapolisgenius]


So she's a *GASP* video artist?

No.
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Reply #34 posted 08/20/04 4:41pm

VoicesCarry

minneapolisgenius said:

VoicesCarry said:



So she's a *GASP* video artist?

No.


I know. She does make great videos, though. I'll give her that. wink
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Reply #35 posted 08/20/04 11:53pm

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Then she's doing her job. She wants some people to hate her.


She does?
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Reply #36 posted 08/20/04 11:55pm

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BinaryJustin said:

I Hate Björk!


And are allergic to cats.
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Reply #37 posted 08/21/04 12:02am

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Her voice is a aquired taste. But her songs do have nice arragements. And the Bachlorette rocks.
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Reply #38 posted 08/21/04 1:19am

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BinaryJustin said:

I Hate Björk!


And are allergic to cats.


and I don't like bananas because they have the same texture as tooth plaque and make me constipated.
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Reply #39 posted 08/21/04 3:18am

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Which Bjork songs are supposedly 'pretentious'?
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Reply #40 posted 08/21/04 6:23am

VoicesCarry

MrSquiggle said:

Which Bjork songs are supposedly 'pretentious'?


With lyrics like "Your sweat is salty, I am why", it really does sometimes reek of pretentious poetry.
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Reply #41 posted 08/21/04 6:26am

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I like Bjork. smile
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Reply #42 posted 08/21/04 7:17am

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Oooooo I just noticed this thread mad eek mad eek mad eek mad eek mad eek mad eek

mad mad mad mad mad mad mad

My love for Bjork is well documented within the hallowed org archives

Of course you are entitled to your opinions be they wrong

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Reply #43 posted 08/21/04 12:00pm

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Of course you are entitled to your opinions be they wrong


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Reply #44 posted 08/21/04 4:06pm

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gooeythehamster said:

SunnyFunnyFace said:

Of course you are entitled to your opinions be they wrong


I like you lots.
Wanna smooch?
We'll play It's Os So Quiet while doing it.


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Reply #45 posted 08/21/04 4:48pm

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VoicesCarry said:

MrSquiggle said:

Which Bjork songs are supposedly 'pretentious'?


With lyrics like "Your sweat is salty, I am why", it really does sometimes reek of pretentious poetry.



Perhaps we should just exchange the word 'pretentious' with 'well crafted'! wink

If there's one thing I love the most about Bjork's work it is her lyrics. They are poetic, full of substance and she has a style all of her own.

She manages to depict some of the most intimate moments of the human experience in a way that isn't trite or cliche.
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Reply #46 posted 08/21/04 5:43pm

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She manages to depict some of the most intimate moments of the human experience.


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Reply #47 posted 08/21/04 11:18pm

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VoicesCarry said:



With lyrics like "Your sweat is salty, I am why", it really does sometimes reek of pretentious poetry.


Well, that makes sense because the song is from the point of view of the ocean. It's really quite a poignant line.

headache said:



Perhaps we should just exchange the word 'pretentious' with 'well crafted'! wink

If there's one thing I love the most about Bjork's work it is her lyrics. They are poetic, full of substance and she has a style all of her own.

She manages to depict some of the most intimate moments of the human experience in a way that isn't trite or cliche.


nod

Don't get me wrong, I really hate it when fans of terrible bands like Radiohead and Godspeed You Black Emperor tell me that I "don't understand", like there's some layer to their pretentious, meaningless garbage I'm missing out on.

I can understand why you wouldn't like Bjork, for much the same reasons I can understand why you wouldn't like one of my other idols, Yoko Ono. And that's fair enough. But one thing she has never been is pretentious. She is always intimate and sometimes surreal, but never pretentious.
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Reply #48 posted 08/21/04 11:33pm

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GangstaFam said:

Then she's doing her job. She wants some people to hate her.


She does?

She'd get bored if she was super popular and universally loved.
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Reply #49 posted 08/21/04 11:36pm

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MrSquiggle said:

Don't get me wrong, I really hate it when fans of terrible bands like Radiohead and Godspeed You Black Emperor tell me that I "don't understand", like there's some layer to their pretentious, meaningless garbage I'm missing out on.

I can understand why you wouldn't like Bjork, for much the same reasons I can understand why you wouldn't like one of my other idols, Yoko Ono. And that's fair enough. But one thing she has never been is pretentious. She is always intimate and sometimes surreal, but never pretentious.

How could you pretend to be Bjork anyway? She's a force of nature. Notice that no one's tried to immitate her yet?
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Reply #50 posted 08/22/04 12:04am

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MrSquiggle said:

I can understand why you wouldn't like Bjork, for much the same reasons I can understand why you wouldn't like one of my other idols, Yoko Ono. And that's fair enough. But one thing she has never been is pretentious. She is always intimate and sometimes surreal, but never pretentious.


I like Yoko Ono's music. It's quite diverse, experimental and fun. In fact my main problem with Bjork is that it all sounds like the same old shit recycled again and again and again.

The lyrics read like poetry that an adolescent would write in high school. They are very over-reaching and embarrassing.
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Reply #51 posted 08/22/04 1:02am

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GangstaFam said:

gooeythehamster said:



She does?

She'd get bored if she was super popular and universally loved.


What I love is she does what she wants always.
And some people do not need fancy words to describe the sublimeness of their world.
This, in my eyes, makes Bjork genius.
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Reply #52 posted 08/22/04 6:06am

MrSquiggle

Speaking of which, has anyone heard Bjork's cover of "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin"? lol Great track.
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Reply #53 posted 08/22/04 6:12am

VoicesCarry

MrSquiggle said:

VoicesCarry said:



With lyrics like "Your sweat is salty, I am why", it really does sometimes reek of pretentious poetry.


Well, that makes sense because the song is from the point of view of the ocean. It's really quite a poignant line.

headache said:



Perhaps we should just exchange the word 'pretentious' with 'well crafted'! wink

If there's one thing I love the most about Bjork's work it is her lyrics. They are poetic, full of substance and she has a style all of her own.

She manages to depict some of the most intimate moments of the human experience in a way that isn't trite or cliche.


nod

Don't get me wrong, I really hate it when fans of terrible bands like Radiohead and Godspeed You Black Emperor tell me that I "don't understand", like there's some layer to their pretentious, meaningless garbage I'm missing out on.

I can understand why you wouldn't like Bjork, for much the same reasons I can understand why you wouldn't like one of my other idols, Yoko Ono. And that's fair enough. But one thing she has never been is pretentious. She is always intimate and sometimes surreal, but never pretentious.


I understand what she's saying in Oceania, but I don't think it's a very novel message at all (but then, it's an Olympic song, so it's not as if it can't be clicheed in some way). I really like some of her lyrics, especially on Homogenic. However, I do feel they can be quite self-indulgent and pretentious, which is obviously something we disagree on. Oh well.
[This message was edited Sun Aug 22 6:17:45 2004 by VoicesCarry]
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Reply #54 posted 08/22/04 6:16am

VoicesCarry

I also must give major credit to Bjork for writing one of my favourite Madonna songs, Bedtime Story.
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Reply #55 posted 08/22/04 6:28am

MrSquiggle

VoicesCarry said:


I understand what she's saying in Oceania, but I don't think it's a very novel message at all (but then, it's an Olympic song, so it's not as if it can't be clicheed in some way). I really like some of her lyrics, especially on Homogenic. However, I do feel they can be quite self-indulgent and pretentious, which is obviously something we disagree on. Oh well.


Honestly though, I'm interested -- what songs of hers do you find pretentious?
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Reply #56 posted 08/22/04 7:56am

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MrSquiggle said:

VoicesCarry said:


I understand what she's saying in Oceania, but I don't think it's a very novel message at all (but then, it's an Olympic song, so it's not as if it can't be clicheed in some way). I really like some of her lyrics, especially on Homogenic. However, I do feel they can be quite self-indulgent and pretentious, which is obviously something we disagree on. Oh well.


Honestly though, I'm interested -- what songs of hers do you find pretentious?


It's a general feeling I get. I'll try to explain what I mean. Often, Bjork seems to be channeling bad Scandinavian poets. Her big crime for me is that she really isn't as profound or esoteric as she seems to think she is, and her music as a result suffers from that pretense. I feel that the fashion designer analogy offered earlier is pretty accurate. She has an immaculately crafted image and her music disappoints in comparison. I get nothing out of it. A Prince song, on the other hand.....

But I think she gets better with age. As I said, I love Homogenic but her earlier stuff really isn't for me.
[This message was edited Sun Aug 22 7:59:51 2004 by VoicesCarry]
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Reply #57 posted 08/22/04 9:11am

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VoicesCarry said:

MrSquiggle said:



Honestly though, I'm interested -- what songs of hers do you find pretentious?


It's a general feeling I get. I'll try to explain what I mean. Often, Bjork seems to be channeling bad Scandinavian poets.


What do u know about Icelandic poetry? Errr what do u mean exactly?

Her big crime for me is that she really isn't as profound or esoteric as she seems to think she is, and her music as a result suffers from that pretense. I feel that the fashion designer analogy offered earlier is pretty accurate. She has an immaculately crafted image and her music disappoints in comparison. I get nothing out of it. A Prince song, on the other hand.....


I have to completely disagree! She's a unique artist, don't tell me Björk is about image, cause she's not. She got her first recording contract as a singer (and was classically trained as a pianist) when she was 11 years old! She's doing music since she was little: she did a pop and jazz album in her teens, played in a punk band, became the lead singer of the rock band Sugarcubes etc. Later on she moved to England and discovered the electronic dance scenes. She sung on a 808 State (influential electronic band of Manchester) record and started working with the best producers like Nellee Hooper. Now that's what's so great about Björk, she's constantly moving on, absorbing all kinds of music: pop, jazz, classical, house, techno, folk, punk, rock, classical etc. The artwork and the videos are an extension of her music and personality!
If u think she's not a real artist, then please tell me who is?! confused
She's been inspired by all kinds of music and that shows in her music, well done Björk.


But I think she gets better with age. As I said, I love Homogenic but her earlier stuff really isn't for me.


I do like all of her albums. smile
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Reply #58 posted 08/22/04 9:16am

PaisleyPark

We need more Björks in this world! cool
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Reply #59 posted 08/22/04 10:58am

VoicesCarry

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VoicesCarry said:



I have to completely disagree! She's a unique artist, don't tell me Björk is about image, cause she's not. She got her first recording contract as a singer (and was classically trained as a pianist) when she was 11 years old! She's doing music since she was little: she did a pop and jazz album in her teens, played in a punk band, became the lead singer of the rock band Sugarcubes etc. Later on she moved to England and discovered the electronic dance scenes. She sung on a 808 State (influential electronic band of Manchester) record and started working with the best producers like Nellee Hooper. Now that's what's so great about Björk, she's constantly moving on, absorbing all kinds of music: pop, jazz, classical, house, techno, folk, punk, rock, classical etc. The artwork and the videos are an extension of her music and personality!
If u think she's not a real artist, then please tell me who is?! confused
She's been inspired by all kinds of music and that shows in her music, well done Björk.


But I think she gets better with age. As I said, I love Homogenic but her earlier stuff really isn't for me.


I do like all of her albums. smile


Well, you're entitled to your opinion as well. I wasn't trying to say anyone was WRONG, just that I'm not really a fan. To me, Bjork has cultivated a very well-defined image, and she's done a brilliant job of it.

I really find it amusing that you believe I claimed she wasn't a real artist. I didn't. She's just an artist that I generally do not connect with. You see? I have tremendous respect for her talent, however (which I admit she has in spades).
[This message was edited Sun Aug 22 11:00:46 2004 by VoicesCarry]
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