vainandy said: As for funk being in the mainstream, it dominated R&B radio in the early 1980s. True, but few funk tracks crossed over onto the pop charts, which is the context in which I used the word "mainstream." Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
namepeace said: vainandy said: As for funk being in the mainstream, it dominated R&B radio in the early 1980s. True, but few funk tracks crossed over onto the pop charts, which is the context in which I used the word "mainstream." I agree. To tell the truth, I'm glad they hardly ever crossed over to the pop charts because that when that happens, a lot of the time, the artists gets money hungry and waters his/her stuff down on the next album trying to go for that crossover success again. That went on a lot in the late 1980s and true funk became very rare. Andy is a four letter word. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
In addition to that i think the turning point for the last golden era in hip hop ( 93' - 95')
Was Nas - it was Written LP. After arguably the Grestest Hip Hop LP of the 90's Illmatic; Nas kinda fliped his style to the Materialistic garbage to follow. DOn't get me wrong I'm a huge Nas fan But this Lp started it for me. Thankfuly he redeemed him self since. .....Oh, wait, I'm sorry. It already has killed Hip-Hop.[/quote] [This message was edited Tue Aug 17 20:17:10 2004 by Soulchild82] "Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine" | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Soulchild82 said: the last golden era in hip hop ( 93' - 95')
I agree. It Was Written was a good album. Did that drop in '95? I could have sworn it was '96. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that 1993-95 was the last "golden age" of hip-hop (I've posted 2 threads that '94 was the single greatest year in hip-hop history), and I would extend it into '96. At that time, hip-hop had a variety of acts that diversified the scene. Here are some of the other albums I think that make that era one of the defining eras of hip-hop: Wu-Tang Clan, Enter the 36 Chambers (1993) De La Soul, Buhloone Mindstate (1993) Dr. Dre, The Chronic (1993) A Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders (1993) Black Moon, Enta Da Stage (1993) Nas, Illmatic (1994) Notorious B.I.G., Ready To Die (1994) Digable Planets, Blowout Comb (1994) Jeru The Damaja, The Sun Rises in the East (1994) The Beatnuts, The Beatnuts (1994) Common Sense, Resurrection (1994) Gang Starr, Hard to Earn (1994) Redman, Dare Iz A Darkside (1994) Raekwon, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995) Mobb Deep, The Infamous (1995) De La Soul, Stakes Is High (1996) Jeru The Damaja, The Wrath of the Math (1996) The Fugees, The Score (1996) Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
sosgemini said: | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
namepeace said: Soulchild82 said: the last golden era in hip hop ( 93' - 95')
I agree. It Was Written was a good album. Did that drop in '95? I could have sworn it was '96. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that 1993-95 was the last "golden age" of hip-hop (I've posted 2 threads that '94 was the single greatest year in hip-hop history), and I would extend it into '96. At that time, hip-hop had a variety of acts that diversified the scene. Here are some of the other albums I think that make that era one of the defining eras of hip-hop: Wu-Tang Clan, Enter the 36 Chambers (1993) De La Soul, Buhloone Mindstate (1993) Dr. Dre, The Chronic (1993) A Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders (1993) Black Moon, Enta Da Stage (1993) Nas, Illmatic (1994) Notorious B.I.G., Ready To Die (1994) Digable Planets, Blowout Comb (1994) Jeru The Damaja, The Sun Rises in the East (1994) The Beatnuts, The Beatnuts (1994) Common Sense, Resurrection (1994) Gang Starr, Hard to Earn (1994) Redman, Dare Iz A Darkside (1994) Raekwon, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995) Mobb Deep, The Infamous (1995) De La Soul, Stakes Is High (1996) Jeru The Damaja, The Wrath of the Math (1996) The Fugees, The Score (1996) That's a great list, bro. The early to mid-90's were where my love and appreciation for true hip hop was in bloom. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
namepeace said: Soulchild82 said: the last golden era in hip hop ( 93' - 95')
I agree. It Was Written was a good album. Did that drop in '95? I could have sworn it was '96. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that 1993-95 was the last "golden age" of hip-hop (I've posted 2 threads that '94 was the single greatest year in hip-hop history), and I would extend it into '96. At that time, hip-hop had a variety of acts that diversified the scene. Here are some of the other albums I think that make that era one of the defining eras of hip-hop: Wu-Tang Clan, Enter the 36 Chambers (1993) De La Soul, Buhloone Mindstate (1993) Dr. Dre, The Chronic (1993) A Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders (1993) Black Moon, Enta Da Stage (1993) Nas, Illmatic (1994) Notorious B.I.G., Ready To Die (1994) Digable Planets, Blowout Comb (1994) Jeru The Damaja, The Sun Rises in the East (1994) The Beatnuts, The Beatnuts (1994) Common Sense, Resurrection (1994) Gang Starr, Hard to Earn (1994) Redman, Dare Iz A Darkside (1994) Raekwon, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995) Mobb Deep, The Infamous (1995) De La Soul, Stakes Is High (1996) Jeru The Damaja, The Wrath of the Math (1996) The Fugees, The Score (1996) Wow. My brother owns every one of those albums. Great list, BTW. My favorites from that era that aren't on the list are Queen Latifah, Black Reign (1993) Grand Puba, 2000 (1995) Lost Boyz, Legal Drug Money (1996) . [This message was edited Wed Aug 18 14:08:52 2004 by JANFAN4L] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
OdysseyMiles said: namepeace said: I agree. It Was Written was a good album. Did that drop in '95? I could have sworn it was '96. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that 1993-95 was the last "golden age" of hip-hop (I've posted 2 threads that '94 was the single greatest year in hip-hop history), and I would extend it into '96. At that time, hip-hop had a variety of acts that diversified the scene. Here are some of the other albums I think that make that era one of the defining eras of hip-hop: Wu-Tang Clan, Enter the 36 Chambers (1993) De La Soul, Buhloone Mindstate (1993) Dr. Dre, The Chronic (1993) A Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders (1993) Black Moon, Enta Da Stage (1993) Nas, Illmatic (1994) Notorious B.I.G., Ready To Die (1994) Digable Planets, Blowout Comb (1994) Jeru The Damaja, The Sun Rises in the East (1994) The Beatnuts, The Beatnuts (1994) Common Sense, Resurrection (1994) Gang Starr, Hard to Earn (1994) Redman, Dare Iz A Darkside (1994) Raekwon, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995) Mobb Deep, The Infamous (1995) De La Soul, Stakes Is High (1996) Jeru The Damaja, The Wrath of the Math (1996) The Fugees, The Score (1996) That's a great list, bro. The early to mid-90's were where my love and appreciation for true hip hop was in bloom. Thanks! I grew up with hip-hop but appreciated it as an art form as soon as I hit college. Then in the early/mid-90's it kind of bloomed. After that, it started to go bust! Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
namepeace said: Soulchild82 said: the last golden era in hip hop ( 93' - 95')
I agree. It Was Written was a good album. Did that drop in '95? I could have sworn it was '96. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that 1993-95 was the last "golden age" of hip-hop (I've posted 2 threads that '94 was the single greatest year in hip-hop history), and I would extend it into '96. At that time, hip-hop had a variety of acts that diversified the scene. Here are some of the other albums I think that make that era one of the defining eras of hip-hop: Wu-Tang Clan, Enter the 36 Chambers (1993) De La Soul, Buhloone Mindstate (1993) Dr. Dre, The Chronic (1993) A Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders (1993) Black Moon, Enta Da Stage (1993) Nas, Illmatic (1994) Notorious B.I.G., Ready To Die (1994) Digable Planets, Blowout Comb (1994) Jeru The Damaja, The Sun Rises in the East (1994) The Beatnuts, The Beatnuts (1994) Common Sense, Resurrection (1994) Gang Starr, Hard to Earn (1994) Redman, Dare Iz A Darkside (1994) Raekwon, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995) Mobb Deep, The Infamous (1995) De La Soul, Stakes Is High (1996) Jeru The Damaja, The Wrath of the Math (1996) The Fugees, The Score (1996) I noticed one thing missing from that list: Pete Rock and CL Smooth - THe Main Ingredient "Thinking like the Keys on Prince's piano, we'll be just fine" | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Soulchild82 said: I noticed one thing missing from that list: Pete Rock and CL Smooth - THe Main Ingredient Hot durnit if you ain't right. PR and CL's followup to Mecca and the Soul Brother did not disaappoint. The title track is OUT THE FRAME!!!! But my failure to include it was was a sin of omission, not commission. Further evidence that 1994 was the greatest single year in hip-hop history. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
AnckSuNamun said: I don't know who'll be the death of it...but this song is pretty bad and should make you wanna run for cover. Franchize-"White Tee"... a song about white T-shirts.
Yea in my white tee [x12] [Hook x2] I slang in my white tee I bang in my white tee All in the club spitting game in my white tee I bling in my white tee sver things in my white tee Fuck a throwback i look clean in my white tee [Verse 1] Step on the scene with some green and some hard white work Real clean fresh jeans and a all white shirt We all get money and we all smoke twerk Hit the dirt one squirt will leave all yall murk Cause im fresh in my white tee they glance at my white tee and i Got the hat that match my pants and my white tee Whoever that you might see I know they got a white tee Uncle brother sister mother dad or ur wifey Hanes or fruit of the loom be the Name of my white tee I gotta change man its a stain on my white tee Lames in a white tee i bring the pain in my white tee Hispanic cracka nigga ever yangs wearin white tee Hit the club deep and we all got a white tee A throw back no that hell naw it dont excite me You dont need no throwback cause you will be sat on your white Tee you can get a circle or a v neck on ur white tee [Hook x2] [Verse 2] I hit the mall in my white tee Ooh I think they like me or they like the diamonds cause they shine so brightly Yeah u know i how i be under my tee it the wifey .... or tighly For them niggas who think im soft nigga come and try me They going to find your body White tees in the club and while we drinking on bacardi Fuck throwbacks white tees in party Now dont get me started gotta try bacardi Drama we avoid it Everyone one wear white tees cause they can afford it Girls wear white tees boys wear white tees Niggas in the trap now i bet they got a white tee I wear a white tee, you wear a white tee The next day catch me with a brand new white tee Oh they buy clean white shoes fresh jeans But on that boy shirt what it say not a thingg [Hook x2] I gotta couple throwbacks it just I choose not to wear them White tee extravganza nigga like a foot locker sale Niggas think i done fail but my paper stacking a lot Or you can throw back this but Partner check my nine And im a ghetto gangsta white tee laws gone hate ya Street gangs with a little fame them hoes gonna chase ya Can't exscape from this white shit it done covered the map Like crack been her in the 80s and it took over the trap Come to the hood you can find me trapping in my white tee Standing with a full grill niggas might try me know how i be still in my white tee Rock jeans tiger green yeah girls like me Haters try to bite me Some try to dislike me Became a rich nigga and the feds try to indicte me Yea in my white tee [x12] How did you find lyrics for this song? | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
namepeace said: Here are some of the other albums I think that make that era one of the defining eras of hip-hop:
Thanks for this list. There are 2 genres of music that I initially avoided like the plague. One was disco and the other was rap. The reason being at the time, as a musician, they had an adverse affect on my ability to work. I can't tell you how many clubs replaced live musicians with 2 turntables and a microphone. However this left a bit of a hole in my knowledge of the history of these genres (particularly rap/hip-hop). Some of these i've heard and some I haven't. The artists I found myself attracted to were ones that in my mind weren't stereotypical of the genre (De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, etc) but were more creative in their choice of subject matter and had an intelligent sense of humor. Or flat out lampooned the idiom periodically (Digital Underground). Your list helps separate the wheat from the chaff regarding this time period in hip-hop. Much appreciated. tA Tribal Disorder http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
theAudience said: The artists I found myself attracted to were ones that in my mind weren't stereotypical of the genre (De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, etc) but were more creative in their choice of subject matter and had an intelligent sense of humor. Or flat out lampooned the idiom periodically (Digital Underground).
Native Tongues | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
namepeace said: Hip-hop hasn't really died. There are many artists out there with no airplay and no videos that still generate creative product. De La Soul, Talib Kweli, JayLib, MF Doom and Common come to mind. Not to mention OutKast. A Tribe Called Quest is reuniting.
I think the murderers of Tupac and Biggie derailed hip-hop. They have since had hundreds of would-be imitators whose lyrics and videos remind me of a modern day minstrel show. Hip-hop's image is that of a mindless, soulless, illiterate, materialistic mess. It's been co-opted by radio, R&B, cinema and the media vanguard. KRS-ONE and Chuck D must be beside themselves. The tide is starting to turn slowly, but we've come full circle again. Hip-hop went from fad to art form to fad, a vehicle to sell records, sports gear and other product. Hopefully, the image will become passe and the music will thrive on the underground scene. hip hop aint goin nowhere its too many people that still love the real shit. i still have hope. out of my three boys my youngest who's 4 likes the new stuff but he down with outkast, the roots, ll cool j, common, talib kweli, and i didn't know he knew some redman and methetc.( even when he hears their tracks without the music he knows who they are) at first i thought he just liked what i played but often times he tells me what he wants to hear or not hear when i play my cds. and yes he knows prince. and this is no joke he even makes his own beats that he hums to me ( i'm not trying to bore you guys with kiddie stories so i'll stop)so i got hope cause it's in people. [This message was edited Mon Aug 23 20:04:11 2004 by heybaby] [This message was edited Mon Aug 23 20:05:25 2004 by heybaby] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
chingy, nelly, all them down south ppl like lil jon who have the SAME DAMN BEAT TO EVERY DAMN SONG.....gosh there are so many...but those ppl really did it for me | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Ma$e | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Janfriend said: Ma$e
BINGO!! welcome back kotter ( think thats what that sho was called) is n no way shape or form hip hop...mase need to stay his ass in the church nstead of jumpin on the money train that is hip hop/rap wit that piece of shit song. Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it! | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Moonwalkbjrain said: Janfriend said: Ma$e
BINGO!! welcome back kotter ( think thats what that sho was called) is n no way shape or form hip hop...mase need to stay his ass in the church nstead of jumpin on the money train that is hip hop/rap wit that piece of shit song. He needs to learn how to speak [This message was edited Mon Aug 23 22:00:36 2004 by Janfriend] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Janfriend said: Moonwalkbjrain said: BINGO!! welcome back kotter ( think thats what that sho was called) is n no way shape or form hip hop...mase need to stay his ass in the church nstead of jumpin on the money train that is hip hop/rap wit that piece of shit song. He needs you learn how to speak exscuse me? Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it! | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Moonwalkbjrain said: Janfriend said: He needs you learn how to speak exscuse me? oops can't spell right now. I edited it. Sorry | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Janfriend said: Moonwalkbjrain said: exscuse me? oops can't spell right now. I edited it. Sorry lol ok its all goody good. Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it! | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Moonwalkbjrain said: Janfriend said: Ma$e
BINGO!! welcome back kotter ( think thats what that sho was called) is n no way shape or form hip hop...mase need to stay his ass in the church nstead of jumpin on the money train that is hip hop/rap wit that piece of shit song. I can't STAND his slooooow ass! How the hell can he try to rap thats way faster than he can talk? Have you ever seen this fool do an interview? | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Soulchild82 said: namepeace said: I agree. It Was Written was a good album. Did that drop in '95? I could have sworn it was '96. And I wholeheartedly agree with you that 1993-95 was the last "golden age" of hip-hop (I've posted 2 threads that '94 was the single greatest year in hip-hop history), and I would extend it into '96. At that time, hip-hop had a variety of acts that diversified the scene. Here are some of the other albums I think that make that era one of the defining eras of hip-hop: Wu-Tang Clan, Enter the 36 Chambers (1993) De La Soul, Buhloone Mindstate (1993) Dr. Dre, The Chronic (1993) A Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders (1993) Black Moon, Enta Da Stage (1993) Nas, Illmatic (1994) Notorious B.I.G., Ready To Die (1994) Digable Planets, Blowout Comb (1994) Jeru The Damaja, The Sun Rises in the East (1994) The Beatnuts, The Beatnuts (1994) Common Sense, Resurrection (1994) Gang Starr, Hard to Earn (1994) Redman, Dare Iz A Darkside (1994) Raekwon, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (1995) Mobb Deep, The Infamous (1995) De La Soul, Stakes Is High (1996) Jeru The Damaja, The Wrath of the Math (1996) The Fugees, The Score (1996) I noticed one thing missing from that list: Pete Rock and CL Smooth - THe Main Ingredient this is a good list, it looks like i'm gonna have to jack my brother but what about the roots "things fall apart"? sorry i don't know the exact year but i would think it was made around this time. [This message was edited Wed Aug 25 21:39:18 2004 by heybaby] | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
maybe its me, but did ya'll forget
Public Enemy It takes a nation of millions to hold us back Fear of a black planet Apocalyspe maybe its me ! | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
death of hip hop: Lil John, Franchise Boyz, Yin Yang Twins, etc. "Pedro offers you his protection." | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
mochalox said: death of hip hop: Lil John, Franchise Boyz, Yin Yang Twins, etc.
"YEP! In my white-tee. YEP! In my white-tee." That's some ignant s#!t. | |
- E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |