flipwilson said: I don't agree that there has been a decline since the eighties.
I think there's been a prolonged lull in pop music since the mid-nineties. There's certainly been some worthy music produced in the past eight years, but I don't think there's been a genuinely interesting musical movement in that time. I really don't think we've seen equivalent waves of interesting and entertaining acts since that era, but I'm sure something worthwhile will rear its head eventually. I agree, music definitely been uninteresting. I hope that it will make a comeback. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Oh yeah I totally forgot about hair bands.. They were the best thing to the 80's besides Prince. rest was pretty much shit..lol Life is not measured by how many breathes we take, But how many we take away. | |
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Pbg said: No I wouldn't say music has gone downhill, it's the music business that has.
True. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Yeah. It's best not to look at the radio as a source of finding good music. I would prefer looking at foreign media. There's a lot of great stuff coming out of the UK, France and the rest of Europe. And Brazil too. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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psychodelicide said: Supernova said: Every decade has wack-ass music. It hasn't been downhill since the '80s, it STARTED going downhill in the '80s. Thank Mtv for that. And every decade has great music too...just don't search for it all on the radio.
` [This message was edited Sun Aug 15 12:00:45 2004 by Supernova] I have to respectfully disagree with you on that, since I feel that 80's music was the best. Still trying to figure out where to find good music that is out today. Oh, I knew you would. Most Prince fans think music begins and ends with the '80s, I just don't happen to be one of them. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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JANFAN4L said: People have thought music has gone downhill since the days of ragtime, jazz and big band. Olde timers though music died with the advent of "rock 'n' roll" (or jungle music, as it was called by bigoted whites -- and asked for the destruction of records by Chuck Berry, Little Richard, The Dominoes, etc.) With each changing generation, older music listeners turn their nose up at the current crop of artists.
Times have changed. Yes, the music of the '60s, '70s and '80s rocked. But, we have to face the facts, new kids have grown up and they like the music of the '90s, '00s and right now. It's not "cheap" or "trash," it's just not your taste. Maybe you're older, maybe your pallette isn't craving these particular styles of music, but you can't trash it simply because it's new and you're not feeling the style or new groove. No, music has not gone downhill. It's still good. Just find the artist or music you like. Jungle music? Lawd have mercy, what is wrong with people calling it that? It is true, today's music is definitely NOT my taste. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Supernova said: psychodelicide said: I have to respectfully disagree with you on that, since I feel that 80's music was the best. Still trying to figure out where to find good music that is out today. Oh, I knew you would. Most Prince fans think music begins and ends with the '80s, I just don't happen to be one of them. Shame on you. But I will defend your right to your own opinion. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: Yes, Psychodelicde, it has. And It began with those Seattle bastards.
NIRVANA RUINED EVERYTHING!!!!! RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Oh, and I just want to clear 1 thing up: some music today is still good, you just have to seek it out. psychodelicide made a very cogent point: "The 80's was a decade where you could turn on your radio and always hear a great song playing. It doesn't seem to be that way as much anymore. Kind of makes me wonder what happened to all the great songwriters who penned those great 80's songs."
There ain't nothing but shit on the radio, as Nelly Furtado would say. Agreed. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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kev1n said: i don't think so, it just seems you have to look harder these days to find good music, but it's definitly out there
* John Mayer * Josh Turner * Dierkx Bentley * Greenwheel * Jimmy Wayne just to name a few that surfaced the last in two years I have never heard of any of those groups. I am getting old! RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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vainandy said: VoicesCarry said
Oh, yes, I think we can. I'm 19, and I thought most modern music was shit when I was 15. The majority of kids today, thanks to corporate radio and MTV, are basically not exposed to good music. Shit is all they know, therefore they believe it's good due to lack of alternative. You said yourself in another thread that you absolutely hate it when some dumb teenager has absolutely no idea that a cover version is actually a cover version ("this is like, so awesome and original") and that the "artists" they respect do nothing but sample and mime. Well, that's ignorance, not a "different" taste. AMEN! Very well said. I think music started going downhill since 1985. The late 1980s still had some good music but not nearly as much good stuff as the early 1980s. Ballads were starting to take over R&B in the late 1980s. Most of the stripped down mid tempo rap was underground and only the good rap was played on the radio. House music was underground and entered mainstream radio around 1989. When house music became mainstream, I thought we were back on the right track again. Everyone started doing uptempo music again and it looked like things were getting back on track. Then EVERYONE started doing a house remix of their song. Every time you turned around, house mix this and house mix that. You can wear too much of a good thing out. As for rap and hip hop, I used to love it in the early 1980s when the songs were fun and for the dance floor. In the early 1990s "gansta" rap became mainstream and that was the beginning of the end. It had been underground for years but then white kids started buying it. I think this is when these major corporations saw they could make big money off a cheap form of music. By around 1993 or 1994, hip hop had completely taken over and has dominated radio ever since. As long as these corporations are controlling everything, hip hop is not going anywhere. By 1995, as a long time funk/R&B lover, I stopped listening to R&B radio and started listening to pop/rock radio. Then I noticed hip hip was making it's way into rock music. Another trend I don't like is the accoustic trend. EVERYBODY started doing accoustical stuff. I felt like singing "Michael rode the boat ashore....hallelujah!" Now I only listen to oldies stations and Clear Channel owns them too. Out of YEARS and YEARS of music out there, they play the same songs several times a day. It's rediculous. I liked 80's rap too, it was a lot more fun, and didn't have the violent themes that it does now. I hate when radio stations play the same songs over and over again, makes me want to rip my hair out. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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NWF said: Yeah! F Clear Channel!!!!!
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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vainandy said: DITTO!! I don't give them a thumbs up.....I give them a middle finger up! RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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indytracy said: hmm Yes and No, If you really think about it was 80's all that great either?? LOL
I thought it was, but I guess it's all in how you view it. For instance, I thought music from the 70's sucked, whereas someone else probably would say it was great. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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NWF said: I don't know how anyone could dispute the music of the 80's. It was the best!
Sure was, it kicked ass! RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Well, if it's any consolation to you, Psych there's a lot of artists who were popular in the 80's on the comeback trail:
Prince The Cure Morrissey George Michael Tears For Fears The Psychedelic Furs Siouxsie and the Creatures Bow Wow Wow Ready For The World .....and then there are many Alternative Rock bands that have been heavily influenced by the music of that era: The Rapture The Fever !!! Radio 4 The Killers The Scissor Sisters The Yeah Yeah Yeahs The Hives Erase Erratta Ima Robot Franz Ferdinand Hot Hot Heat Muse etc. [This message was edited Sun Aug 15 16:52:01 2004 by NWF] [This message was edited Sun Aug 15 16:52:39 2004 by NWF] NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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indytracy said: Oh yeah I totally forgot about hair bands.. They were the best thing to the 80's besides Prince. rest was pretty much shit..lol
I looooved those big hair bands! Okay, I'm REALLY showing my age now. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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NWF said: Yeah. It's best not to look at the radio as a source of finding good music. I would prefer looking at foreign media. There's a lot of great stuff coming out of the UK, France and the rest of Europe. And Brazil too.
Any clue as to where I could find this music? RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Supernova said: psychodelicide said: I have to respectfully disagree with you on that, since I feel that 80's music was the best. Still trying to figure out where to find good music that is out today. Oh, I knew you would. Most Prince fans think music begins and ends with the '80s, I just don't happen to be one of them. No problem, you have the right to your opinion too. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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psychodelicide said: NWF said: Yeah. It's best not to look at the radio as a source of finding good music. I would prefer looking at foreign media. There's a lot of great stuff coming out of the UK, France and the rest of Europe. And Brazil too.
Any clue as to where I could find this music? I'm too lazy to start looking right now. I guess you could start with reading the British music magazines like Q, MOJO, and NME. [This message was edited Sun Aug 15 16:54:26 2004 by NWF] NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: Well, if it's any consolation to you, Psych there's a lot of artists who were popular in the 80's on the comeback trail:
Prince The Cure Morrissey George Michael Tears For Fears The Psychedelic Furs Siouxsie and the Creatures Bow Wow Wow Ready For The World .....and then there are many Alternative Rock bands that have been heavily influenced by the music of that era: The Rapture The Fever !!! Radio 4 The Killers The Scissor Sisters The Yeah Yeah Yeahs The Hives Erase Erratta Ima Robot Franz Ferdinand Hot Hot Heat Muse etc. [This message was edited Sun Aug 15 16:52:01 2004 by NWF] [This message was edited Sun Aug 15 16:52:39 2004 by NWF] Awesome! RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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NWF said: psychodelicide said: Any clue as to where I could find this music? I'm too lazy to start looking right now. I guess you could start with reading the British music magazines like Q, MOJO, and NME. [This message was edited Sun Aug 15 16:54:26 2004 by NWF] I used to read Q magazine back in the day, I need to check it out again. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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Oh yes, and another cool new rock band influenced by New Wave/Post-Punk is The Stills. I saw them live last month, and they were awesome. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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[quote] NWF said: Well, if it's any consolation to you, Psych there's a lot of artists who were popular in the 80's on the comeback trail:
Prince The Cure Morrissey George Michael Tears For Fears The Psychedelic Furs Siouxsie and the Creatures Bow Wow Wow Ready For The World Not necessarily though. I haven't heard any of those artists' new stuff except for Prince's but sometimes when an old artist makes a new album, they water it down to fit in with today's music. I know Cameo and The Barkays did decent albums in the mid 1990s and got no airplay. The Barkays has a new album out right now and the single "Holla If Ya Hear Me" is getting plenty of airplay. It sounds horrible....just like everything else on the radio today. And I can't stand the Isley Brothers' new stuff. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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psychodelicide said: But you're right, all of ths music that came out during the 80's was good.
All sense of perspective was lost for that one. This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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Whatever. Just stating my opinion. I respected your opinion, please respect mine. [This message was edited Sun Aug 15 18:39:35 2004 by psychodelicide] RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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psychodelicide said: kev1n said: i don't think so, it just seems you have to look harder these days to find good music, but it's definitly out there
* John Mayer * Josh Turner * Dierkx Bentley * Greenwheel * Jimmy Wayne just to name a few that surfaced the last in two years I have never heard of any of those groups. I am getting old! * John Mayer (i think the saviour of popular music in the new millenium) * Josh Turner ( new old school country talent) * Dierkx Bentley (defenitly one of the more promessing newcommers) * Greenwheel ( melissa etheridge covered their song breathe) It was not in vain...it was in Minneapolis! | |
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psychodelicide said: Just wondering if anybody feels, like I do, that music has not been as good since the 80's? The 80's was a decade where you could turn on your radio and always hear a great song playing. It doesn't seem to be that way as much anymore. Kind of makes me wonder what happened to all the great songwriters who penned those great 80's songs. Just wondering if anybody feels the same way I do. Feel free to post your thoughts.
yes yes yes!! Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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NWF said: Yes, Psychodelicde, it has. And It began with those Seattle bastards.
NIRVANA RUINED EVERYTHING!!!!! OMG NWF!! somebody that agrees with me on this!! i hated those guys with a passion Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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psychodelicide said: JDINTERACTIVE said: Maybe you're not searching hard enough for new and challenging music.
Got any suggestions as to where I can find good music, because it seems harder and harder to find these days. Think I'm getting old. Psycho the only 2 new bands i seem to like right now are Keane & scissor sisters..try them Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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