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PrintableDavidEye said: How did an Usher thread turn into a bash-Madonna thread?
In any case,i expect Gman1966 to show his face around here any minute now.He takes advantage of EVERY opportunity to bash Madonna,lol. I was just gonna say isn't it funny that on an Usher thread, Usher gets zero attention?  He's not worthy! He's not worthy! (see, I tied in a little Wayne's World/Madonna tribute for y'all, see)    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said: DavidEye said:  Out of respect for you and Sassy, I have stayed off of every Madonna thread. Back into my hole, I crawl. Don't go! It's been so fun   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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jayaredee said: CalhounSq said: I don't know about good w/ all your Madonna devotion but I'm cool w/ everybody, as long as you don't say "smooches" - I HATE that shit Welcome! 
Thank you, and sorry about the rather rough introduction No worries at all
She said "im not the best singer and im not the best dancer."
She never said she "couldn't" sing Ahhhhh, but she should have just admitted the truth LAWD, lemme take my ass to bed I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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jayaredee said: RipHer2Shreds said: This performance was one of THE worst live performances I've ever seen. I remember being very excited to see her perform at the Grammys that year. I literally cringed the whole time. It was terrible! As has been stated several times already, Madonna's an entertainer not a singer. She can't sing live. She's even admitted this herself (watch Truth or Dare), but this performance was unbearable. She said "im not the best singer and im not the best dancer." She never said she "couldn't" sing Not saying it ouright, but she said it. Nonetheless, that's my problem with the new and improved Madonna. On the Blonde Ambition tour, she sounded like crap, but still...it's my favorite tour of hers, because she wasn't as obsessed with proving her prowess as a singer. She was concerned with getting a message across, and now any message takes second stage to her desire to show everyone that she can sing well, play guitar well, dance well, etc. | |
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DavidEye said:[quote]How did an Usher thread turn into a bash-Madonna thread?
one voiceless hack(usher) kinda blends into another one (madonna)...slick videos don't translate well when you actually try to sing too you look better on your facebook page than you do in person  | |
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well...I like Ushers cd...I just don't like Usher...
I watch his little vh-1 Driven....he has worked hard...his attitude is just fucked up...but have to admit to liking is past two cds. running for the door STOP THROWING POPCORN AT ME DAMN IT | |
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meltwithu said:[quote] DavidEye said: How did an Usher thread turn into a bash-Madonna thread?
one voiceless hack(usher) kinda blends into another one (madonna)...slick videos don't translate well when you actually try to sing too so now you're saying that Usher can't sing either? LOL | |
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Madonna sounds GREAT in 'Evita'.
Are we all clear on that? | |
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Rhondab said: well...I like Ushers cd...I just don't like Usher...
I watch his little vh-1 Driven....he has worked hard...his attitude is just fucked up...but have to admit to liking is past two cds. running for the door STOP THROWING POPCORN AT ME DAMN IT I watched that too this weekend. No wonder he was pumping on stage as a kid w/ Bobbie fucking Brown as his idol
I thought the stuff w/ Puff was NOT cool. He was still a kid, that was some irresponsible shit. If I was Ushers mama I would have whooped Puffy's ass 
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DavidEye said:[quote] meltwithu said: DavidEye said: How did an Usher thread turn into a bash-Madonna thread?
one voiceless hack(usher) kinda blends into another one (madonna)...slick videos don't translate well when you actually try to sing too so now you're saying that Usher can't sing either? LOL Yea... Usher can sing - he's no great singer but the boy can hold a note I've just never been impressed w/ the music he puts out, and his stylist should be hurt really bad... ...come on Alfred... pack ya shit... | |
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DavidEye said: Madonna sounds GREAT in 'Evita'.
Are we all clear on that? Lemme make a note... - rent Evita - put disc in player - turn on TV - leave room Got it  ...come on Alfred... pack ya shit... | |
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David-Eye Take A Bow was live and awful both Babyface and Madonna
sucked royally that night...just listen to her "all the world is a stage.." & what she does to the word clown 
She's quite the inconsistent live singer the ROL & AL promo gigs where horrendous, she sounded like a crow..Her singing is like her acting, it's like she's vogueing, she goes at it line per line.. But on the current Re-invetion tour she seems 2 b in great vocal shape soundbite: http://s11.yousendit.com/...D232F26312 'Rolling Stone': After twenty years in the limelight, Madonna is expected to cause controversy and reinvent herself for every new tour. So for the May 24th Los Angeles opening of her Re-Invention world trek, Madonna did the most unexpected thing she could: She came back as a great concert singer. Even the most diehard Madonna fan will concede that her live performances have almost without exception been plagued by a multitude of missed notes, breathy passages, and, as of late, fake British accents. But while Mariah and Whitney have of been losing the acrobatic vocal dexterity and lung power on which their reputations rest, forty-five-year-old Madonna, whom few have ever taken seriously as a musician, has never sounded better than she did during the first of several gigs in her adopted West Coast home... ...Your coochie gonna swell up and fall apart... | |
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Martinelli said [/u]Even the most diehard Madonna fan will concede that her live performances have almost without exception been plagued by a multitude of missed notes, breathy passages, and, as of late, fake British accents.
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A year or two ago, there was a news story about a concert near Oakland (in Concord) where the concertgoers nearly rioted afterward. They were blocking tunnels, doing donuts on the freeway, and generally being idiots. I was waiting to hear that it was a 50 cent concert or Slipknot or something, and they said it was Usher!!! I just couldn't believe that anyone who considered themselves bad boys would listen to Usher. Maybe the concert was so tame that they felt the need to do something wild.
I actually dislike Usher more than Justin Timberlake, because Justin at least seems nice; Usher seems conceited. Check this song out at:
http://www.soundclick.com...tmusic.htm | |
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papaa said: USHER STRIKES ME...
As someone who tries too hard for little effect BTW, VoicesCarry said: Pop stars who sing live:
Kylie Minogue Christina Aguilera Madonna Really?-Kylie: Light Years Tour, Fever Tour 2002, Body Language Live, and most live performances. She's known for being a pretty consistent live singer (much better than Madonna, at least). -Madonna's sung live on most of her tours (Virgin Tour, Drowned World Tour, most of Reinvention) [This message was edited Tue Aug 10 14:45:43 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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Some shocking developments in this thread:
-some people will always like Madonna, and her voice -some people will always hate Madonna, and her voice You aren't gonna change anyone's opinion, btw.
But the Reinvention threads in July were full of praise for her vocal performance, so do most of you base your opinions of the tours solely on the DVDs? Madonna's voice weakens as the tour progresses, obviously (and they always film the tours during the closing legs, which sucks). [This message was edited Tue Aug 10 14:45:02 2004 by VoicesCarry] | |
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I aint surprised one bit. Everybody is making such a big hooha about Usher or Ursher as I call him and he just isn't nobody that gets me excited. He's talented, but not like my ol man (Prince) or Stevie Wonder or anybody else I would pay to see live.
I just listened to Tom Joyner last week and that's when I first heard that Usher was going on tour and he said his show is gonna be hotter that Prince. You know my response: BULLSHIT!!!. Usher couldn't be a pimple on Prince's ass. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Some shocking developments in this thread:
-some people will always like Madonna, and her voice -some people will always hate Madonna, and her voice You aren't gonna change anyone's opinion, btw.
But the Reinvention threads in July were full of praise for her vocal performance, so do most of you base your opinions of the tours solely on the DVDs? Madonna's voice weakens as the tour progresses, obviously (and they always film the tours during the closing legs, which sucks). [This message was edited Tue Aug 10 14:45:02 2004 by VoicesCarry] I love madonna...however i don't think she is the strongest singer....her talent has always been as a savvy business woman and pinching just the right amount of her collaborators sound to make very timely pop songs.....she was always knowm more for entertainment value than vocal prowess | |
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CalhounSq said: jayaredee said: Actually she does, so you might wanna keep your trash talk to yourself unless you've been to her concert. Madonna is a fabulous singer.    DUDE, you are a moron. Madonna is not even a GOOD singer while sitting on a stool! Put some dancing on that & it only gets worse. The only thing "fabulous" about her singing is the fact that she's made a living at it for so long being SO half assed, hate to break it to you 
And NO, I've never been fool enough to pay $ to attend her show but I've seen the bitch perform live enough times on TV to "trash talk" about her. Damn, y'all some BITCHES up in here This is 4th grade shit for real you need to see the re-INVENTION tour. you'll be amazed at how good she sounds. even while standing still. better yet, while dancing, and also as she's playing guitar. very good for a novice-player, and outstanding for something going through such a physically demanding show. if you haven't seen the re-INVENTION show, then you don't know how well she can sing. i'm a lifelong fan, and even I was shocked! "I don't need your forgiveness, cos I've been saved by Jesus, so fuck you." | |
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VoicesCarry said: Pop stars who sing live:
Kylie Minogue Christina Aguilera Madonna Thumps up to those girls! I love that despite the fact that Kylie (and Madonna) are lambasted for not being great singers and being pop, they always sing live. | |
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Tessa said: CalhounSq said: DUDE, you are a moron. Madonna is not even a GOOD singer while sitting on a stool! Put some dancing on that & it only gets worse. The only thing "fabulous" about her singing is the fact that she's made a living at it for so long being SO half assed, hate to break it to you
And NO, I've never been fool enough to pay $ to attend her show but I've seen the bitch perform live enough times on TV to "trash talk" about her. Damn, y'all some BITCHES up in here This is 4th grade shit for real you need to see the re-INVENTION tour. you'll be amazed at how good she sounds. even while standing still. better yet, while dancing, and also as she's playing guitar. very good for a novice-player, and outstanding for something going through such a physically demanding show. if you haven't seen the re-INVENTION show, then you don't know how well she can sing. i'm a lifelong fan, and even I was shocked! Calhoun doesn't like Madonna. Why would he ever stoop to attending one of her shows? | |
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Isn't this a thread about Usher? When did Madonna become Usher??? Someone fill me in, PLEASE!!!! Didn't I already had a debate similar to this on the other board?  I was never here....you never saw me.[This message was edited Tue Aug 10 22:42:10 2004 by estelle1981] SPREAD LOVE UNTIL THE SUN'S FINAL RISE--The Duality a.k.a. "WYNTER SKYE" | |
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jayaredee said: CalhounSq said: OMG, you make me tired. If the bitch can barely sing, the bitch can barely sing. No date or tour is gonna change that darling! It's just the way her voice is - NOT VERY GOOD. OY, sleep awaits...  Well that's your own opinon..... but don't go around saying it like it's a fact. People around here should learn to use "IMO" The only people who feel the need to do that are those who are walking on egg shells when it comes to their opinion. Does it matter that im new, being here longer seems to only make you stupid.
For others it seems to only take about a month or less. , [This message was edited Tue Aug 10 23:05:31 2004 by Supernova] This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes. | |
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 sinking thread alert, therefore, enjoy:
HEEEEE-HEEEEE.....OWWWW hee-hee edit [This message was edited Tue Aug 10 23:10:30 2004 by TheTHREADKiller] NO THREAD IS SAFE WHENEVER I'M AROUND 
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VoicesCarry said: Tessa said: you need to see the re-INVENTION tour. you'll be amazed at how good she sounds. even while standing still. better yet, while dancing, and also as she's playing guitar. very good for a novice-player, and outstanding for something going through such a physically demanding show. if you haven't seen the re-INVENTION show, then you don't know how well she can sing. i'm a lifelong fan, and even I was shocked! Calhoun doesn't like Madonna. Why would he ever stoop to attending one of her shows? Really though, it's not so much that I "don't like" her. I don't mind her actually I think she's a great business woman, smart & savvy as all fuck. BUT I don't respect her musically. Can she put on a show? Yes. Can she sing? Not really. Can she dance? Yes.
Understand that I don't go to concerts to see a damn circus act (i.e. dancing & pyrotechnic shit) - I wanna hear good singing on songs I love. I like some of Maddy's stuff but I'm not so interested in her work that I'd pay to see her live, especially at the prices she gouges y'all with Same with Janet Jackson - I'd never pay to see her live either...
It's not a dislike, it's a realistic (IMO) opinion of the quality of her voice, in all seriousness
And a lot of you longtime fans keep saying how "shocked" you were at how good she sounded on the current tour & in Evita. Well that speaks volumes about how you're used to her sounding doesn't it? Come on, let's just be real. I'm glad if her voice has gotten better in recent years but it would take a throat transplant to turn her into a "great" singer. Just my opinion
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TheTHREADKiller said: sinking thread alert, therefore, enjoy:
HEEEEE-HEEEEE.....OWWWW hee-hee edit [This message was edited Tue Aug 10 23:10:30 2004 by TheTHREADKiller] I'm officially creeped out! ...come on Alfred... pack ya shit... | |
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I really don't care if she's a great singer or not. Ray Of Light is a goddamn masterpiece, and I listen to it more than any Prince's stuff these days.
It's a mind blowing album  | |
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LightOfArt said: I really don't care if she's a great singer or not. Ray Of Light is a goddamn masterpiece, and I listen to it more than any Prince's stuff these days.
It's a mind blowing album its a big turd boss IMO “If I can shoot rabbits/then I can shoot fascists” | |
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Crappallonia said: VoicesCarry said: Calhoun doesn't like Madonna. Why would he ever stoop to attending one of her shows? Really though, it's not so much that I "don't like" her. I don't mind her actually I think she's a great business woman, smart & savvy as all fuck. BUT I don't respect her musically. Can she put on a show? Yes. Can she sing? Not really. Can she dance? Yes.
Understand that I don't go to concerts to see a damn circus act (i.e. dancing & pyrotechnic shit) - I wanna hear good singing on songs I love. I like some of Maddy's stuff but I'm not so interested in her work that I'd pay to see her live, especially at the prices she gouges y'all with Same with Janet Jackson - I'd never pay to see her live either...
It's not a dislike, it's a realistic (IMO) opinion of the quality of her voice, in all seriousness
And a lot of you longtime fans keep saying how "shocked" you were at how good she sounded on the current tour & in Evita. Well that speaks volumes about how you're used to her sounding doesn't it? Come on, let's just be real. I'm glad if her voice has gotten better in recent years but it would take a throat transplant to turn her into a "great" singer. Just my opinion
. [This message was edited Tue Aug 10 23:31:34 2004 by Crappallonia] All that for one lil' sentence ?
Seriously, I like her voice. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I think she knows how to sell a song, even if her voice isn't technically perfect. "Live To Tell", "Till Death Do Us Part", "Like A Prayer", "Oh Father", "Keep It Together", etc. are great examples of this. Regardless of your tastes, I think you can admit that It's a hell of a lot stronger than the sterile likes of Britney, J.Lo or many of the other pop stars we're being subjected to these days. | |
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