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Thread started 07/29/04 8:44am

vainandy

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Shalamar vs. Shalamar

Which is your favorite Shalamar, the original or the replacement? The original group consisted of Howard Hewitt, Jeffery Daniels, and Jody Watley. Jeffery and Jody left the group and were replaced by Mikki Free and a lady who's name I don't know.

My favorite is the original.
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Reply #1 posted 07/29/04 8:46am

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definitely the original !!lol
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Reply #2 posted 07/29/04 9:19am

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Um, that's not the "original" Shalamar.

The original Shalamar consisted of Gary Mumford, Jody Watley and Jeffrey Daniels. Howard Hewett was actually the THIRD vocalist in Shalamar, but was by far the best and most popular.
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Reply #3 posted 07/29/04 9:25am

misterman

what happened to Gary Mumford?
did he left the group to persue a solo career?
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Reply #4 posted 07/29/04 9:30am

Harlepolis

If anybody I RESENT the most(or at all) from the Shalamar crew it would def be that corny big-headed nigga Mr.Howard Hewitt.

Howard slam
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Reply #5 posted 07/29/04 10:15am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Um, that's not the "original" Shalamar.

The original Shalamar consisted of Gary Mumford, Jody Watley and Jeffrey Daniels. Howard Hewett was actually the THIRD vocalist in Shalamar, but was by far the best and most popular.



That's right, I forgot!...Mumford was on Uptown Festival, he left, and Gerald Brown, his replacement, was on Disco Gardens(Which had "Take That To The Bank" on it!)...Hewitt didn't show up until Big Fun in '79("Second Time Around", "Let's Find The Time For Love")...
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Reply #6 posted 07/29/04 10:39am

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"Make That Move" is one of my all time favorite childhood jams!!! No Doubt!!!
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Reply #7 posted 07/29/04 10:40am

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There is nothing like Howard Hewitt's voice on Somewhere There's A Love.....drool
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Reply #8 posted 07/29/04 1:12pm

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That "lady" (for vainandy) was Delisa Davis who was teamed with Micki Free (that "fine chick") and Howard Hewett (Heartbreak). That was followed by Sidney Justin replacing the exiting Howard Hewett (Circumstantial Evidence, Wake Up).

Watley/Daniels/Mumford:
Uptown Festival

Watley/Daniels/Brown:
Take That to the Bank

Watley/Daniels/Hewett:
Right in the Socket
The Second Time Around
Make That Move
This is for the Lover in You
A Night to Remember
Dead Giveaway


Hewett/Free/Davis:
Dancing in the Sheets

And the winner is...
The Hewitt/Watley/Daniels Shalamar hands down.

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Reply #9 posted 07/29/04 1:14pm

psykosoul

theAudience said:

...who was teamed with Micki Free (that "fine chick")


lol
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Reply #10 posted 07/29/04 1:24pm

Harlepolis

psykosoul said:

theAudience said:

...who was teamed with Micki Free (that "fine chick")


lol


You beat me to it, boo wacky

Audience, I sincerely hope you're just bluffing with us common folks(Do you?) hmm
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Reply #11 posted 07/29/04 1:43pm

TheRealFiness

Uptown Festival was released on Soul Train the pre cursor to Solar..that label included Shalamar, Carrie Lucas, The soul train Gang,i believe the Whispers didnt record for Soul Train cus they were still with Janus when they got signed to Solar in 78,,
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Reply #12 posted 07/29/04 2:39pm

Rhondab

Hewett/Watley/Daniels.....THIS IS SHALAMAR


Howard's voice is amazing!!!!!
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Reply #13 posted 07/29/04 3:53pm

theAudience

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Harlepolis said:


You beat me to it, boo wacky

Audience, I sincerely hope you're just bluffing with us common folks(Do you?) hmm

I'm a little frazzled at the moment, not sure what you're referring to. confused

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Reply #14 posted 07/29/04 6:51pm

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The best Shalamar is:

Howard Hewitt
Jeffrey Daniels
Jody Watley

'Take That To The Bank' is one of my fave Shalamar trax tho, which Howard Hewitt doesn't sing on but its still a very cool track!
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Reply #15 posted 07/29/04 7:16pm

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ButterscotchPimp said:

Um, that's not the "original" Shalamar.

The original Shalamar consisted of Gary Mumford, Jody Watley and Jeffrey Daniels. Howard Hewett was actually the THIRD vocalist in Shalamar, but was by far the best and most popular.


Thanks for the info. That's what I love about this site, I learn something new every day.
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Reply #16 posted 07/29/04 7:33pm

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thetimefan said:

The best Shalamar is:

Howard Hewitt
Jeffrey Daniels
Jody Watley

'Take That To The Bank' is one of my fave Shalamar trax tho, which Howard Hewitt doesn't sing on but its still a very cool track!

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Reply #17 posted 07/29/04 8:06pm

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I learned to moonwalk from watching Shalamar kicking "Right Dead In the Socket" on Soul Train... YEARS before I saw MJ doing it. I would do that at teen discos (yeah yeah shut up) and ALWAYS got mo drawers.

edit: the tall dude did the moonwalk during the breakdown I think. Also did some sideways sliding - all that stuff. I was the KING of the fancy footwork! WHOO!

sigh.

good times...
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Reply #18 posted 07/29/04 8:23pm

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Harlepolis said:

psykosoul said:



lol


You beat me to it, boo wacky

Audience, I sincerely hope you're just bluffing with us common folks(Do you?) hmm

If i've caught on to what you're asking, the answer is a resounding...


You once said you're "strictly dickly"?
Well my thang is 100% poon-tang.



Ya dig?

The "fine chick" comment was a Charlie Murphy True Hollywood Stories reference.
(The Prince episode)

tA

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Reply #19 posted 07/29/04 8:41pm

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otan said:

I learned to moonwalk from watching Shalamar kicking "Right Dead In the Socket" on Soul Train... YEARS before I saw MJ doing it. I would do that at teen discos (yeah yeah shut up) and ALWAYS got mo drawers.

edit: the tall dude did the moonwalk during the breakdown I think. Also did some sideways sliding - all that stuff. I was the KING of the fancy footwork! WHOO!

sigh.

good times...
[This message was edited Thu Jul 29 20:07:51 2004 by otan]



"Right In The Socket" is my absolute FAVORITE Shalamar song.

I'm so glad you brought up the moonwalk. So many people think that Michael Jackson invented the moonwalk in 1982 but the first time I ever saw the dance was in 1980 and all the pop lockers were doing it. You are right, they also did it from side to side. I know people have different names for dances in different parts of the nation but down south, the so-called moonwalk that everyone thinks Michael Jackson invented, was called "The Glide" in 1980.
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Reply #20 posted 07/29/04 10:04pm

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Reply #21 posted 07/30/04 9:43am

Harlepolis

theAudience said:

Harlepolis said:



You beat me to it, boo wacky

Audience, I sincerely hope you're just bluffing with us common folks(Do you?) hmm

If i've caught on to what you're asking, the answer is a resounding...


You once said you're "strictly dickly"?
Well my thang is 100% poon-tang.



Ya dig?

The "fine chick" comment was a Charlie Murphy True Hollywood Stories reference.
(The Prince episode)

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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Nah boo lol I was wondering if you mistook Micki Free for a a fine chic? lol
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Reply #22 posted 07/30/04 10:42am

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Mickey Free was the most pathetic Prince wanna-be if I ever saw one. I remember during the 'Circumstatial Evidence' era ('87) he was calling thier single "Games" as their 'Sign O The Times'. He even wore a hoop earing and a decorated denim jacket just like P circa SOTT.

Delisa Davis was a good vocalist. She ended up singing backup for many other late 80's divas (Pebbles, Paula Abdul, Karyn White).
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Reply #23 posted 08/09/04 9:44pm

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vainandy said:




"Right In The Socket" is my absolute FAVORITE Shalamar song.

I'm so glad you brought up the moonwalk. So many people think that Michael Jackson invented the moonwalk in 1982 but the first time I ever saw the dance was in 1980 and all the pop lockers were doing it. You are right, they also did it from side to side. I know people have different names for dances in different parts of the nation but down south, the so-called moonwalk that everyone thinks Michael Jackson invented, was called "The Glide" in 1980.


I wish somebody had a video link of Daniels doing the "moonwalk". I would love to see it. Jeffrey Daniels is the most underrated dancers ever. I remember seeing one of the Electric Boogloo Locker do it in a circle, not straight like MJ. MJ always stated that he never invented it, everybody (Black folks) knows that the "moonwalk(gliding your feet sideways)" and the "backslide/the Glide (aka moonwalk, illusion of going backwards and forward at the same time) " lockin, poppin, boogloo has been around for a long time, and was invented in the SF Bay Area in the 60s, long before it made its way down So Cal.
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Reply #24 posted 08/09/04 10:57pm

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If anybody I RESENT the most(or at all) from the Shalamar crew it would def be that corny big-headed nigga Mr.Howard Hewitt.

Howard slam


eek... stfu
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Reply #25 posted 08/10/04 4:43pm

aikam

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Definitely

Howard Hewitt
Jeffrey Daniels (Stephanie Mills ex hubby)
Jody Watley

Check out recent pics of Micki Free on his website - I believe he also mentions Shalamar

http://www.mickifree.com/
Ohhh you keep saying stay the niiiiiiiiight
Just let me rock you 'til the morning liiiiiiight
It's cold outside
And much too late to driiiiiiiive
You know I need you baby
I'm so lost without your love
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Reply #26 posted 08/10/04 4:47pm

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anybody got a pic of Micki Free?
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Reply #27 posted 08/10/04 5:02pm

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missfee said:

anybody got a pic of Micki Free?

I posted his web address right above your post...here it is
http://www.mickifree.com/
Ohhh you keep saying stay the niiiiiiiiight
Just let me rock you 'til the morning liiiiiiight
It's cold outside
And much too late to driiiiiiiive
You know I need you baby
I'm so lost without your love
Mariah Carey - Stay The Night music
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Reply #28 posted 08/10/04 6:57pm

Rhondab

Harlepolis said:

If anybody I RESENT the most(or at all) from the Shalamar crew it would def be that corny big-headed nigga Mr.Howard Hewitt.

Howard slam



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HELLO....HE WAS THE TALENT....lol....
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Reply #29 posted 08/10/04 9:08pm

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The one and only Shalamar is Hewett, Watley, and Daniels, although I loved Circumstansial Evidence during the Free days.

BTW, my mother and Gary Mumford dated when they were teens in Birmingham.
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