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Reply #30 posted 07/27/04 5:49am

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Pablo Honey starstar
The Bends starstarstarstar
OK Computer starstarstarstarstar
Kid A starstarstarstarstar
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Reply #31 posted 07/27/04 6:32am

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I personally don't think Radiohead are overrated at all. Their desire to not play the game and take up the mantle from U2 and other such "arena" bands is admirable and the critics eat that stuff up. This does not mean that the band isn't the real deal. I also think it's kind of a disservice to say that they're the best band of the 90's. They're still around, still making great music, so we shouldn't be leaving them in the 90's like that. A great band is a great band.
If folks took the time to just listen to the music without buying into everything the critics have to say, you'll see that Radiohead is a group made up of 5 very talented musicians.
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Reply #32 posted 07/27/04 6:34am

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OdysseyMiles said:

I personally don't think Radiohead are overrated at all. Their desire to not play the game and take up the mantle from U2 and other such "arena" bands is admirable and the critics eat that stuff up. This does not mean that the band isn't the real deal. I also think it's kind of a disservice to say that they're the best band of the 90's. They're still around, still making great music, so we shouldn't be leaving them in the 90's like that. A great band is a great band.
If folks took the time to just listen to the music without buying into everything the critics have to say, you'll see that Radiohead is a group made up of 5 very talented musicians.


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Reply #33 posted 07/27/04 6:56am

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Cloudbuster said:

OdysseyMiles said:

I personally don't think Radiohead are overrated at all. Their desire to not play the game and take up the mantle from U2 and other such "arena" bands is admirable and the critics eat that stuff up. This does not mean that the band isn't the real deal. I also think it's kind of a disservice to say that they're the best band of the 90's. They're still around, still making great music, so we shouldn't be leaving them in the 90's like that. A great band is a great band.
If folks took the time to just listen to the music without buying into everything the critics have to say, you'll see that Radiohead is a group made up of 5 very talented musicians.


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Reply #34 posted 07/27/04 9:18am

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Reply #35 posted 07/27/04 2:35pm

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Reply #36 posted 07/27/04 3:07pm

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mrdespues said:

NWF said:

They ain't even funky.


That's the kind of iggnant response I'd expect from a lot of funk-mad orgers, who can't and won't listen to anything else of value if it's not funky.


I'll go with the ignorant majority! I'm just not into radiohead, what can i say? no disrespect to them. biggrin
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Reply #37 posted 07/27/04 3:17pm

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I think the term overrated is an overused one (I am guilty of this myself sometimes). Is it Radiohead's fault they get so much acclaim? Nope. They're not the ones lavishing acclaim on their own music, but they'd have reason to do so if they chose to. They make great music, and I do not think they've put out a bad album yet.

sdldawn said:


And its typical for people to not like it.. it makes the ones who do, appreciate it even more for what you dont understand.

Kia A and its sister Amnesiac are amazing. 5 star works of art.


Agreed! Kid A is a brilliant album, as is Amnesiac. Works of genius often polarize listeners...just ask Prince.
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Reply #38 posted 07/27/04 3:38pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

I think the term overrated is an overused one (I am guilty of this myself sometimes). Is it Radiohead's fault they get so much acclaim? Nope. They're not the ones lavishing acclaim on their own music, but they'd have reason to do so if they chose to. They make great music, and I do not think they've put out a bad album yet.

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And its typical for people to not like it.. it makes the ones who do, appreciate it even more for what you dont understand.

Kia A and its sister Amnesiac are amazing. 5 star works of art.


Agreed! Kid A is a brilliant album, as is Amnesiac. Works of genius often polarize listeners...just ask Prince.


me and u need to get together on some music.. if u dig that, i got stuff that you would LOVE

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Reply #39 posted 07/27/04 7:43pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

I think the term overrated is an overused one (I am guilty of this myself sometimes). Is it Radiohead's fault they get so much acclaim? Nope. They're not the ones lavishing acclaim on their own music, but they'd have reason to do so if they chose to. They make great music, and I do not think they've put out a bad album yet.

sdldawn said:


And its typical for people to not like it.. it makes the ones who do, appreciate it even more for what you dont understand.

Kia A and its sister Amnesiac are amazing. 5 star works of art.


Agreed! Kid A is a brilliant album, as is Amnesiac. Works of genius often polarize listeners...just ask Prince.


I agree that it's not their fault but it kind of sucks to hear so much praise constantly heaped on them. Nobody could live up to the hype they've gotten since OK Computer. Why do damn critics have to be so lazy? Can't they discover at least one other band to praise?
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Reply #40 posted 07/27/04 10:27pm

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rialb said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

I think the term overrated is an overused one (I am guilty of this myself sometimes). Is it Radiohead's fault they get so much acclaim? Nope. They're not the ones lavishing acclaim on their own music, but they'd have reason to do so if they chose to. They make great music, and I do not think they've put out a bad album yet.

sdldawn said:

Agreed! Kid A is a brilliant album, as is Amnesiac. Works of genius often polarize listeners...just ask Prince.


I agree that it's not their fault but it kind of sucks to hear so much praise constantly heaped on them. Nobody could live up to the hype they've gotten since OK Computer. Why do damn critics have to be so lazy? Can't they discover at least one other band to praise?


well, I could care less if another critic ever spoke of them.. thats not why I listen.. in fact, the time i discovered them.. i didnt know anything about them.. I just listened..
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Reply #41 posted 07/27/04 11:15pm

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mrdespues said:

NWF said:

They ain't even funky.


That's the kind of iggnant response I'd expect from a lot of funk-mad orgers, who can't and won't listen to anything else of value if it's not funky.


It's not that I'm exclusively into Funk. I'm into all types of music (you might wanna check my profile sometime). It's just that they don't really have much of a groove. Or soul, if you will. A lot of their stuff is very cold and robotic, devoid of much soul. I'm sorry, that's how I feel. A lot of other great British groups were influenced by soul music (Beatles, Stones, Clapton, Floyd, Kinks)and you can hear that in their stuff. I just don't see much of that groove in Radiohead. And like Sir Duke said "it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.....".
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Reply #42 posted 07/28/04 6:23am

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NWF said:

mrdespues said:



That's the kind of iggnant response I'd expect from a lot of funk-mad orgers, who can't and won't listen to anything else of value if it's not funky.


It's not that I'm exclusively into Funk. I'm into all types of music (you might wanna check my profile sometime). It's just that they don't really have much of a groove. Or soul, if you will. A lot of their stuff is very cold and robotic, devoid of much soul. I'm sorry, that's how I feel. A lot of other great British groups were influenced by soul music (Beatles, Stones, Clapton, Floyd, Kinks)and you can hear that in their stuff. I just don't see much of that groove in Radiohead. And like Sir Duke said "it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing.....".


I hate playing devil's advocate, but I'm gonna do so. wink Your argument makes sense but would hold more ground if similarly non-soulful weren't listed in your profile: The Clash, System of a Down, Cake, etc. Surely you can't label any of them soulful. And Devo? Come on, they're great but it doesn't get any more cold and robotic than them.

It's sometimes hard to say why you don't like somebody's sound. There are a few people I don't like and have a hard time expressing exactly why I dislike them, even when there are others similar in style to them that we do like. Just doesn't suit your taste, I guess.
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Reply #43 posted 07/28/04 6:28am

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Don´t forget that Radiohead are an outstanding live-band. You have to experience them in concert. Besides, Radiohead are right now probably the only band I know that haven´t made a bad album in ten years. I´m very curious where they are heading next, musically.
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Reply #44 posted 07/28/04 7:02am

endorphin74

lol I can't believe I haven't posted on this thread yet...but anyways...

Most of what I wanted to say has been said so I'll just reitterate a few points...

IMO, they are an absolutely brilliant band. They've grown by leaps and bounds since getting it right on The Bends. The songs from Kid A and Amnesiac stand well (for me) on their own, but after seeing them done live, they take on a whole new life.

NWF, I know I won't sway your opinion just as you won't sway mine, but here goes anyways smile
I can think of 2 Kid A tracks in particular (The National Anthem and Idioteque) which have tons of 'groove and soul.' They may feel cold at first but performed live these songs knock me over every time. Seriously, watch them perform either of these live with an open mind and I find it hard to believe anyone could say they don't have soul.



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Reply #45 posted 07/28/04 9:26am

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It's not like Radiohead is plastered all over Television and Radio these days. Desipite their popularity, they maintain a pretty low profile in the media. You don't see them on tabloids, superbowl performances, hollywood squares, VH-1 Best of specials, Courtroom scandals, Celebrities Uncensored, nothing...

They just make music and they do it well.

I've probabbly seen Ashley Simpson more times this week on TV than I have Radiohead in the past year. Sure, some reviewers may get a little carried away with their reviews of Radiohead, but thats only because their music has excited them.
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Reply #46 posted 07/28/04 10:49am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

And Devo? Come on, they're great but it doesn't get any more cold and robotic than them.


Except maybe Kraftwerk. biggrin
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Reply #47 posted 07/28/04 11:20am

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minneapolisgenius said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

And Devo? Come on, they're great but it doesn't get any more cold and robotic than them.


Except maybe Kraftwerk. biggrin

Kraftwerk is also superb...and cold...and robotic. smile
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Reply #48 posted 07/28/04 12:52pm

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Tom said:

It's not like Radiohead is plastered all over Television and Radio these days. Desipite their popularity, they maintain a pretty low profile in the media. You don't see them on tabloids, superbowl performances, hollywood squares, VH-1 Best of specials, Courtroom scandals, Celebrities Uncensored, nothing...

They just make music and they do it well.

I've probabbly seen Ashley Simpson more times this week on TV than I have Radiohead in the past year. Sure, some reviewers may get a little carried away with their reviews of Radiohead, but thats only because their music has excited them.


I guess that's one good thing about living in Canada. I haven't seen her at all barring the odd episode of Seventh Heaven.
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Reply #49 posted 07/28/04 5:23pm

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They may be overrated by some (maybe more in England), but I think they're capable of some great stuff, and they're unique, which says a lot.

I love that a band like Radiohead can be popular today.

I think OK Computer is a truly great album. After that I think they tried too hard to be un-commercial (and in some cases actually annoying). Still I think Kid A & Amnesiac are pretty interesting.

Hail to the Theif seems like a bit of a return to conventional songs, and good ones.
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Reply #50 posted 07/28/04 5:57pm

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andyman91 said:


After that I think they tried too hard to be un-commercial (and in some cases actually annoying). Still I think Kid A & Amnesiac are pretty interesting.



I agree with this statement totally. Maybe I just don't get it but I don't see the brilliance of Kid A and Amnesiac. I think if you take the best tracks off of both albums you'd get a great album. But as they were released they were not the masterpieces most critics hailed them as being, in my opinion. Hail To The Thief was close, but I wish they would make at least one more album full of actual songs.
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Reply #51 posted 07/29/04 5:11am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

minneapolisgenius said:



Except maybe Kraftwerk. biggrin

Kraftwerk is also superb...and cold...and robotic. smile

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Reply #52 posted 07/29/04 5:18am

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Cloudbuster said:

Pablo Honey starstar
The Bends starstarstarstar
OK Computer starstarstarstarstar
Kid A starstarstarstarstar
Amnesiac starstarstar
Hail To The Thief starstarstarstar


I prefer it this way:

Pablo Honey starstar 1/2
The Bends starstarstarstar
OK Computer starstarstarstarstar
Kid A starstarstarstar
Amnesiac starstarstarstar 1/2
Hail To The Thief starstarstar 1/2[/quote]

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Reply #53 posted 07/29/04 9:33am

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jillybean said:

No they are not overrated. Britney, Justin, Usher, John Mayer - they're overrated.



I totally agree here. Radiohead is the shit. Best rockband out there. Ok Computer is on my top 10 best rock albums of all time.
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