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Thread started 07/22/04 10:33pm

Zelaira

Morrisey!!! YEAH! YEAH! YEAH!!!

Hasn't Changed...Still Cool. Who digs the New album? Great on Craig Killborn tonite!
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Reply #1 posted 07/22/04 11:11pm

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Zelaira said:

Hasn't Changed...Still Cool. Who digs the New album? Great on Craig Killborn tonite!


Yes, it was great. big grin I saw the perfomrance too. He's still got it! wink
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Reply #2 posted 07/23/04 12:08am

garganta

I really like his new album

Especially "First of the gang to die" and "I am not sorry"
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Reply #3 posted 07/23/04 1:36am

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I never really had time for the guy and his music. Then someone bought me the album for my Birthday.

Its the best album of the year. It lives in my car.
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Reply #4 posted 07/23/04 3:35am

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I think "You are the Quarry" is one of the best solo-records he has released.I listen to it all the time. Favorite tracks: I have forgiven Jesus, Come back to Camden, Crashing Bores, Let me kiss you.
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Reply #5 posted 07/23/04 5:12am

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NWF said:

Zelaira said:

Hasn't Changed...Still Cool. Who digs the New album? Great on Craig Killborn tonite!


Yes, it was great. big grin I saw the perfomrance too. He's still got it! wink


WHAT!?!?!! I missed it dammit!

So, now that lollapalooza has been canceled, when is he gonna announce a proper US tour?
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Reply #6 posted 07/23/04 10:23am

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theplejades said:

I think "You are the Quarry" is one of the best solo-records he has released.I listen to it all the time. Favorite tracks: I have forgiven Jesus, Come back to Camden, Crashing Bores, Let me kiss you.
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Doesn't stand up to "Your Arsenal", "Vauxhall & I" or "Southpaw Grammar" - those boot "Quarry" out of the stadium.
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Reply #7 posted 07/23/04 11:24am

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Doesn't stand up to "Your Arsenal", "Vauxhall & I" or "Southpaw Grammar" - those boot "Quarry" out of the stadium.


Not for me.Here is how I would rate his solo-records.Three albums share the No. 1 Spot because I can´t decide which one I like best.

1. Bona Drag
You are the Quarry
Viva Hate
2. Vauxhall and I
3. Your Arsenal
4. Beethoven was Deaf
5. Southpaw Grammar
6. Kill Uncle

The only really great track on Southpaw Grammar is "Dagenham Dave" IMHO.
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Reply #8 posted 07/23/04 1:10pm

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theplejades said:

Doesn't stand up to "Your Arsenal", "Vauxhall & I" or "Southpaw Grammar" - those boot "Quarry" out of the stadium.


Not for me.Here is how I would rate his solo-records.Three albums share the No. 1 Spot because I can´t decide which one I like best.

1. Bona Drag
You are the Quarry
Viva Hate
2. Vauxhall and I
3. Your Arsenal
4. Beethoven was Deaf
5. Southpaw Grammar
6. Kill Uncle

The only really great track on Southpaw Grammar is "Dagenham Dave" IMHO.



No, it's the worst IMNAAHO. "Southpaw Grammar" isn't to everyone's taste, admittedly, but how "Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils" fails to stir you I don't know.

And "Bona Drag" is a singles compilation, not a "real" album.
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Reply #9 posted 07/23/04 1:29pm

jn2

I like his underrated (imo) 97 album better than Kill Uncle ( even if Driving You Girlfriend Home is fabulous) and the 95 one ( the one with Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils), especially Amunitions or Wide To Recieve
Isn't Girl Least Likely Too a moving song?
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Reply #10 posted 07/23/04 1:35pm

Shapeshifter

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jn2 said:

I like his underrated (imo) 97 album better than Kill Uncle ( even if [color=blue:7ea4402a94]Driving You Girlfriend Home [/color]is fabulous) and the 95 one ( the one with Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils), especially Amunitions or Wide To Recieve
Isn't Girl Least Likely Too a moving song?



In which case you know things about Morrissey that most people don't ... Some of "Kill Uncle" is great ("Our Frank", "Mute Witness"). The songs are actually a lot better live. Seek out some 1991 bootlegs. I recommend "Higher Education", "The Uncle Is Dead" and "Home Is Where The Heart Is".

I thought "Girl LLT" was quite funny - even if he did write it about himself.
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Reply #11 posted 07/23/04 1:47pm

jn2

did he still pretend to have no sexuality rolleyes?
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Reply #12 posted 07/23/04 3:33pm

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theplejades said:

Doesn't stand up to "Your Arsenal", "Vauxhall & I" or "Southpaw Grammar" - those boot "Quarry" out of the stadium.


Not for me.Here is how I would rate his solo-records.Three albums share the No. 1 Spot because I can´t decide which one I like best.

1. Bona Drag
You are the Quarry
Viva Hate
2. Vauxhall and I
3. Your Arsenal
4. Beethoven was Deaf
5. Southpaw Grammar
6. Kill Uncle

The only really great track on Southpaw Grammar is "Dagenham Dave" IMHO.


redface

I really like Kill Uncle. I have a feeling that it's more sentimental connections to that album and where I was in life (11th grade) but I really enjoy Kill Uncle.
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Reply #13 posted 07/23/04 4:27pm

SnowQueen

Yup, love Morrissey and the new album is great.

I wish he'd tour and head on over to Mpls. Last time I saw him live was in '91. It was GREAT
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Reply #14 posted 07/23/04 5:05pm

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If I was to buy a second CD of his, based on what I like with the new album, what would you suggest?
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Reply #15 posted 07/23/04 10:41pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

If I was to buy a second CD of his, based on what I like with the new album, what would you suggest?



In order: "Your Arsenal", "Vauxhall & I", "Southpaw Grammar", "Viva Hate", "Bona Drag", "Maladjusted", "My Early Burglary Years", "Kill Uncle", "Beethoven Was Deaf", "Suedehead".

Then you'll need the following bootlegs: "Home Is Where The Heart Is", "The Uncle Is Dead", "I'm A Poet", "Happy Xmas", "World Of Boxers", "Practising Troublemaker", "Gothenburg 1997".

If you've got any money left we'll get onto The Smiths.
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Reply #16 posted 07/23/04 10:52pm

Zelaira

The Smiths were Great. I Also Loved Joy Division..And Ya know New Order... Yeah Remember morrisey said that about his Sexuality and Everybody thought he was like a VIRGIN..Same With ANDY WARHOL.. He CLAIMED To NEVER Have SEx.. But he did like all those MOVIEs WITh JOE DELLASANDRO. What Is THAT ALL ABOUT?
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Zelaira said:

The Smiths were Great. I Also Loved Joy Division..And Ya know New Order... Yeah Remember morrisey said that about his Sexuality and Everybody thought he was like a VIRGIN..Same With ANDY WARHOL.. He CLAIMED To NEVER Have SEx.. But he did like all those MOVIEs WITh JOE DELLASANDRO. What Is THAT ALL ABOUT?



It's called lying.
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Reply #18 posted 07/24/04 5:04am

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If I was to buy a second CD of his, based on what I like with the new album, what would you suggest?


Most definately after getting 'quarry' you should go for Vauxhall and I I only got into Morrissey after buying quarry - and got addicted fast - bought all the back catalogue, singles boxes, DVD's & even got me a really expensive ticket to his Meltdown show - AMAZING show btw!! - am totally addicted now!!
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Reply #19 posted 07/24/04 6:03am

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No, it's the worst IMNAAHO. "Southpaw Grammar" isn't to everyone's taste, admittedly, but how "Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils" fails to stir you I don't know.


The worst? I guess thats why it was the first single from Southpaw. "The Teachers..." could be a great song too if it wasn´t so awfully long and repetetive.


I forgot to include "Maladjusted" in my list. That would fit between "Your Arsenal" and "Beethoven was Deaf". I like the first 4 songs on that album but the rest is hmm
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theplejades said:

No, it's the worst IMNAAHO. "Southpaw Grammar" isn't to everyone's taste, admittedly, but how "Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils" fails to stir you I don't know.


The worst? I guess thats why it was the first single from Southpaw. "The Teachers..." could be a great song too if it wasn´t so awfully long and repetetive.


I forgot to include "Maladjusted" in my list. That would fit between "Your Arsenal" and "Beethoven was Deaf". I like the first 4 songs on that album but the rest is hmm



"Dave" was the only song on the album that was a). relatively radio friendly and b). was at or around the 3.00 minute mark. "Maladjusted" starts really well but goes off the boil really quickly. Why he left "Lost" off the album in favour of crap like "Roy's Keen" and "Satan Rejected My Soul" is mind boggling.
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Reply #21 posted 07/25/04 5:58pm

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Love the new album, loved the Kilborn performance, loved the live show in Chicago last weekend.
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Shapeshifter said:

SquirrelMeat said:

If I was to buy a second CD of his, based on what I like with the new album, what would you suggest?



In order: "Your Arsenal", "Vauxhall & I", "Southpaw Grammar", "Viva Hate", "Bona Drag", "Maladjusted", "My Early Burglary Years", "Kill Uncle", "Beethoven Was Deaf", "Suedehead".

Then you'll need the following bootlegs: "Home Is Where The Heart Is", "The Uncle Is Dead", "I'm A Poet", "Happy Xmas", "World Of Boxers", "Practising Troublemaker", "Gothenburg 1997".

If you've got any money left we'll get onto The Smiths.
[This message was edited Sat Jul 24 8:13:50 2004 by Shapeshifter]


Thanks for the advice!

Actually, I was in a local store on Saturday and I picked up "Bona Drag" for £1, simply because it was there and that it contained a few of the early singles I liked (Interesting Drug, November Spawns and International playboy). And its great. It could do with remastering, but for a pound I can't complain.

I shall get Your Arsenal next!

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Reply #23 posted 07/27/04 2:11pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

Shapeshifter said:




In order: "Your Arsenal", "Vauxhall & I", "Southpaw Grammar", "Viva Hate", "Bona Drag", "Maladjusted", "My Early Burglary Years", "Kill Uncle", "Beethoven Was Deaf", "Suedehead".

Then you'll need the following bootlegs: "Home Is Where The Heart Is", "The Uncle Is Dead", "I'm A Poet", "Happy Xmas", "World Of Boxers", "Practising Troublemaker", "Gothenburg 1997".

If you've got any money left we'll get onto The Smiths.
[This message was edited Sat Jul 24 8:13:50 2004 by Shapeshifter]


Thanks for the advice!

Actually, I was in a local store on Saturday and I picked up "Bona Drag" for £1, simply because it was there and that it contained a few of the early singles I liked (Interesting Drug, November Spawns and International playboy). And its great. It could do with remastering, but for a pound I can't complain.

I shall get Your Arsenal next!

smile



Yeah, that's probably my favourite Moz album. I'll be interested to know what you make of it. Report back.
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Reply #24 posted 07/27/04 2:39pm

jn2

If Your Arsenal was produced by Steve Liliwhite I think it should have really been a masterpiece, anyways I love Tomorrow and Seasick
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Reply #25 posted 07/29/04 7:55pm

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I was a complete total Smithshead in college, I got so glutted up with them, I couldn't follow it all when they broke up so I've never even heard a Morrissey tune.
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Reply #26 posted 07/30/04 1:30am

jn2

I couldn't follow it all when they broke up so I've never even heard a Morrissey tune.
not even Everyday Is Like Sunday?
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Reply #27 posted 07/30/04 2:47am

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jn2 said:

If Your Arsenal was produced by Steve Liliwhite I think it should have really been a masterpiece, anyways I love Tomorrow and Seasick



It is a masterpiece.
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Reply #28 posted 07/30/04 2:48am

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heartbeatocean said:

I was a complete total Smithshead in college, I got so glutted up with them, I couldn't follow it all when they broke up so I've never even heard a Morrissey tune.



Well, that was in 1987, so get over it and get yourself Ryko's "The Best of Morrissey".
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Reply #29 posted 07/30/04 6:28pm

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jn2 said:

I couldn't follow it all when they broke up so I've never even heard a Morrissey tune.
not even Everyday Is Like Sunday?



Sounds possibly familiar. Maybe I have, but don't know it. Hmmm...maybe...
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