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Thread started 07/21/04 7:06pm

namepeace

Russell Simmons said THIS.

In his session with the Beastie Boys in Interview magazine, August 2004 edition, page 90:

It seems like the most ghetto rappers are the ones saying the most profound s--t. Talib Kweli will be like, "Pay attention. I'm conscious." But then you listen to G-Unit and they say stuff that is inspiring.

Read that three times, let it sink in, and you might come to the same sad realization I did. Russell Simmons has transformed from hip-hop's champion to hip-hop's enabler.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

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Reply #1 posted 07/21/04 8:01pm

PurpleCharm

I am not surprised. Russell is a modern coon who needs to STFU.
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Reply #2 posted 07/21/04 8:42pm

psykosoul

neutral Okay that mofo has lost his everlovin' mind.
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Reply #3 posted 07/21/04 9:12pm

Supernova

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namepeace said:

In his session with the Beastie Boys in Interview magazine, August 2004 edition, page 90:

It seems like the most ghetto rappers are the ones saying the most profound s--t. Talib Kweli will be like, "Pay attention. I'm conscious." But then you listen to G-Unit and they say stuff that is inspiring.

Read that three times, let it sink in, and you might come to the same sad realization I did. Russell Simmons has transformed from hip-hop's champion to hip-hop's enabler.

He's come across to me that way for years now.

It's his bread and butter.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #4 posted 07/22/04 12:33am

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Reply #5 posted 07/22/04 8:13am

namepeace

Supernova said:

namepeace said:

In his session with the Beastie Boys in Interview magazine, August 2004 edition, page 90:

It seems like the most ghetto rappers are the ones saying the most profound s--t. Talib Kweli will be like, "Pay attention. I'm conscious." But then you listen to G-Unit and they say stuff that is inspiring.

Read that three times, let it sink in, and you might come to the same sad realization I did. Russell Simmons has transformed from hip-hop's champion to hip-hop's enabler.

He's come across to me that way for years now.

It's his bread and butter.


Yeah, I had that sinking feeling about him for years, but when I saw that, I just said, "enough." For years, he's refused to address the growing minstrelsy in hip-hop. Almost every time I see a hip-hop video it makes me sick. Not because I'm "hatin'." but because i see these cats making fools of themselves. Thankfully, many of them are taking care of themselves, but at what cost? And why would Russell Simmons, who could be the wise elder statesman of hip-hop, see all this and not say anything? Unfortunately, I have to think it's because he profits from it. He and many modern day artists are benefitting from the cultural impact that artists before them made, but it's not the same anymore.
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Reply #6 posted 07/22/04 1:03pm

Supernova

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namepeace said:

Supernova said:


He's come across to me that way for years now.

It's his bread and butter.


Yeah, I had that sinking feeling about him for years, but when I saw that, I just said, "enough." For years, he's refused to address the growing minstrelsy in hip-hop. Almost every time I see a hip-hop video it makes me sick. Not because I'm "hatin'." but because i see these cats making fools of themselves. Thankfully, many of them are taking care of themselves, but at what cost? And why would Russell Simmons, who could be the wise elder statesman of hip-hop, see all this and not say anything? Unfortunately, I have to think it's because he profits from it. He and many modern day artists are benefitting from the cultural impact that artists before them made, but it's not the same anymore.

There ya go. And he doesn't want to be viewed as being out of touch with the hip hop community.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #7 posted 07/22/04 1:05pm

mochalox

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wow. I didn't hink I'd ever hear that coming outta the mouth of someone from that generation of Hip Hop.
"Pedro offers you his protection."
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Reply #8 posted 07/22/04 1:11pm

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namepeace said:

Supernova said:


He's come across to me that way for years now.

It's his bread and butter.


Yeah, I had that sinking feeling about him for years, but when I saw that, I just said, "enough." For years, he's refused to address the growing minstrelsy in hip-hop. Almost every time I see a hip-hop video it makes me sick. Not because I'm "hatin'." but because i see these cats making fools of themselves. Thankfully, many of them are taking care of themselves, but at what cost? And why would Russell Simmons, who could be the wise elder statesman of hip-hop, see all this and not say anything? Unfortunately, I have to think it's because he profits from it. He and many modern day artists are benefitting from the cultural impact that artists before them made, but it's not the same anymore.

thumbs up!
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Reply #9 posted 07/22/04 1:12pm

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Reply #10 posted 07/22/04 1:14pm

starrbooty

Russell Simmons can be such a dick at times.
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Reply #11 posted 07/22/04 1:17pm

POOK

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POOK GOT FAT RHYME LIKE RUSSELL SIMMON STEAL MONEY!

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #12 posted 07/22/04 2:08pm

theAudience

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G-Unit's Inspirational Moments...

After sipping on Nightrain, that potent pipe game
I have you saying "slow down baby"


You don't wanna bang wit the best
I'll have Doc removin fragments from your chest


I squeeze till i run outta ammo, if it's a problem it's handled,
I'll have your people pourin' out liquor and lightin' candles


Bitches know it’s a privilege
If I stop to check her


Every day's a death threat, but I ain't dead yet
So I go put a hole in a nigga from the next set
Don't know where I slept at, just know where my tec at
It's the first of the month, my bitch ain't got her check yet


And last but not least...

Got the wrists of a chemist and the heart of a hustler
Plus I probably done robbed mo' artists than Russell


hmmm Which "Russell" is he referring to?

tA

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Reply #13 posted 07/22/04 2:16pm

minneapolisgen
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G-Unit said:

....Every day's a death threat, but I ain't dead yet.....

Damn, I'll shoot him myself just for being so damn stupid. disbelief
"I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven
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Reply #14 posted 07/22/04 2:17pm

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Russell is one sorry fool to me. Those lyrics to that G-Unit song said it all right there to me.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #15 posted 07/22/04 4:17pm

namepeace

minneapolisgenius said:

namepeace said:



Yeah, I had that sinking feeling about him for years, but when I saw that, I just said, "enough." For years, he's refused to address the growing minstrelsy in hip-hop. Almost every time I see a hip-hop video it makes me sick. Not because I'm "hatin'." but because i see these cats making fools of themselves. Thankfully, many of them are taking care of themselves, but at what cost? And why would Russell Simmons, who could be the wise elder statesman of hip-hop, see all this and not say anything? Unfortunately, I have to think it's because he profits from it. He and many modern day artists are benefitting from the cultural impact that artists before them made, but it's not the same anymore.

thumbs up!


Ah, sweet MinneapolisGenius . . .
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Reply #16 posted 07/23/04 9:59am

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Nothing new here. Russell made a comment to the effect of poets just being "rappers without music" once. More idiot's wisdom. This comes as no surprise. I swear, it seems like Russell Simmons, Bob Johnson and Puffy are the three stooges of the black community. Somebody call the Sandman to get these no talent hacks off the stage and away from any and every microphone. Some people should just NEVER speak in public.
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Reply #17 posted 07/23/04 1:12pm

OdysseyMiles

All these so called gangstas and pimps in hip-hop remind me of eighties hair bands. All show, no substance. Hopefully, the genre will be forced to make a turnaround when enough people finally stop spending their hard-earned money on pooptoast .
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Reply #18 posted 07/23/04 1:21pm

minneapolisgen
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namepeace said:

minneapolisgenius said:


thumbs up!


Ah, sweet MinneapolisGenius . . .

razz
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Reply #19 posted 07/23/04 2:09pm

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namepeace said:

In his session with the Beastie Boys in Interview magazine, August 2004 edition, page 90:

It seems like the most ghetto rappers are the ones saying the most profound s--t. Talib Kweli will be like, "Pay attention. I'm conscious." But then you listen to G-Unit and they say stuff that is inspiring.

Read that three times, let it sink in, and you might come to the same sad realization I did. Russell Simmons has transformed from hip-hop's champion to hip-hop's enabler.


Okay that mofo has lost his everlovin' mind.


hell yea!
whats so inspiring bout "i'm on fire up n here burnin up its on fire" ?
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Reply #20 posted 07/23/04 2:12pm

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theAudience said:


G-Unit's Inspirational Moments...

After sipping on Nightrain, that potent pipe game
I have you saying "slow down baby"


You don't wanna bang wit the best
I'll have Doc removin fragments from your chest


I squeeze till i run outta ammo, if it's a problem it's handled,
I'll have your people pourin' out liquor and lightin' candles


Bitches know it’s a privilege
If I stop to check her


Every day's a death threat, but I ain't dead yet
So I go put a hole in a nigga from the next set
Don't know where I slept at, just know where my tec at
It's the first of the month, my bitch ain't got her check yet


And last but not least...

Got the wrists of a chemist and the heart of a hustler
Plus I probably done robbed mo' artists than Russell


hmmm Which "Russell" is he referring to?

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm



falloff falloff falloff
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Reply #21 posted 07/23/04 5:03pm

bananacologne

I thought u meant RICHARD Simmonds when I first read this - I was quite shocked I can tell u!


Im being totally serious too!
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Reply #22 posted 07/23/04 6:16pm

theAudience

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OdysseyMiles said:

Hopefully, the genre will be forced to make a turnaround when enough people finally stop spending their hard-earned money on pooptoast .


The majority of the "people" you're referring to...

...are suburban younguns.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
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Reply #23 posted 07/23/04 7:09pm

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theAudience said:

OdysseyMiles said:

Hopefully, the genre will be forced to make a turnaround when enough people finally stop spending their hard-earned money on pooptoast .


The majority of the "people" you're referring to...

...are suburban younguns.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


For them it's a fad, like being a hippie was to their parents. When rubber hits the pavement, and adult life summons you best believe they will switch from baggie pants to Brooks Brother suits faster than you can say "GGGGG-GEEE UNIT!" While their hood rich bretheren will still be splitin' verbs', never doing nothing, waiting for their label to take off, just being though'ed in da gam', or just trying to find where they're at (PERIOD)
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Reply #24 posted 07/23/04 8:26pm

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theAudience said:

OdysseyMiles said:

Hopefully, the genre will be forced to make a turnaround when enough people finally stop spending their hard-earned money on pooptoast .


The majority of the "people" you're referring to...

...are suburban younguns.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


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Reply #25 posted 07/23/04 8:32pm

psykosoul

theAudience said:

OdysseyMiles said:

Hopefully, the genre will be forced to make a turnaround when enough people finally stop spending their hard-earned money on pooptoast .


The majority of the "people" you're referring to...

...are suburban younguns.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


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evillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillol

Ain't it the truth?!??!?!
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Reply #26 posted 07/24/04 1:53pm

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psykosoul said:

theAudience said:



The majority of the "people" you're referring to...

...are suburban younguns.

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


fallofffallofffallofffallofffallofffallofffallofffallofffallofffallofffallofffalloff
evillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillolevillol

Ain't it the truth?!??!?!




it's funny all the "Majority" cats I know are checkin for Mos def,talib Kweli,Canibal O,Jean Grae,The Roots,Royce da 5'9,and real hip hop....
while all the inner city cats I know are riding the dicks of these industry cats,talkin bout "let me go cop some g-unit kicks" BREAK THE FUCK OUT!!!! my niece and who is Puerto Rican who has a majority of friends who are black & latino buy that BS just as well as the white folks...
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #27 posted 07/24/04 2:37pm

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namepeace said:

In his session with the Beastie Boys in Interview magazine, August 2004 edition, page 90:

It seems like the most ghetto rappers are the ones saying the most profound s--t. Talib Kweli will be like, "Pay attention. I'm conscious." But then you listen to G-Unit and they say stuff that is inspiring.

Read that three times, let it sink in, and you might come to the same sad realization I did. Russell Simmons has transformed from hip-hop's champion to hip-hop's enabler.

-----
Russel has been saying ingorant stuff for years. Check out his so-called autobiography or some of the things Chuck D has said about him.
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Reply #28 posted 07/24/04 3:42pm

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boriquateddy said:

it's funny all the "Majority" cats I know are checkin for Mos def,talib Kweli,Canibal O,Jean Grae,The Roots,Royce da 5'9,and real hip hop....
while all the inner city cats I know are riding the dicks of these industry cats,talkin bout "let me go cop some g-unit kicks" BREAK THE FUCK OUT!!!! my niece and who is Puerto Rican who has a majority of friends who are black & latino buy that BS just as well as the white folks...

The operative term in your statement is "cats I know".
In your circle of friends that may very well be true.

But the "big picture" and bottom line is that NO group will get the industry promo and backing that a group like G-Unit does if their product is only being purchased with the dollars of "inner city cats". Based on simple economics, it just ain't gonna happen.

"I'm sorry baby, that's the rules"

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
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Reply #29 posted 07/24/04 4:38pm

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I remember a diatribe Russell went on once describing Veronika Webb (that model chick) as a "bitch" & why that term was good. For him it meant she was independent, a go-getter, had her shit together, looked good, blah blah blah.

I don't mind a woman defining herself as a bitch if it suits her, but that explanation coming outta him never sat well w/ me. confused But maybe that's just me...

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