CokeJohnson said:

tell me ONE thing that will be a good enough proof to you. just one?
Let me tell you, NOTHING will be a good enough proof for you coz u just like the idea of him bleaching his skin.

LightOfArt said:

Oh, PLEASE! I know people with vitiligo and their skin looks nothing like that. Believe what you want.

theVelvetRoper said:

NOW I am probably the only one certified on this topic
because i've written so many medical Reports on the condition since high school

Michael Jackson has a Condition CALLED UNIVERSAL VITILIGO
which means the disease covers all portions of his body!
ok got it?
YOU CAN NOT BLEACH YOUR SKIN PORCELAIN WHITE ITS IMPOSSIBLE!
you can lighten it...
but you can't remove all color from it

JACKSON was DIAGNOSED in 1986
His dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klien Diagnosed him with the skin disease
Dr. Arnold Klein . Joseph, Katherine, and Randy Jackson appeared on the US TV program "Day One" about a month after the Oprah interview to reveal that they had known for many years that Michael had vitiligo but had been sworn to secrecy. Janet Jackson told Ebony, MTV, Q, Bravo, and Star Club that she too had known but had complied with MJ's request to remain silent. She added that it always hurt to listen to claims that Michael was artificially lightening his skin because she knew the truth but could not defend him without violating his privacy.
After this Michael Jackson literally became the PosterBoy For vitiligo as michael j. Fox is for parkinson disease
Sadly later Michael jackson was accused of child molestation
and the Vitiligo fund did not want to be associated with him

Luv4oneanotha said:

You're "certified". I guess that means you're able to perform surgeries, too.
[This message was edited Sat Jul 24 4:47:45 2004 by theVelvetRoper]

theVelvetRoper said:

So now he's a lawyer and a physician. Astronaut's next on the list.

VoicesCarry said:

Nah. Only if he wrote an essay on space when he was a sophomore.

theVelvetRoper said:

aha





MJ




as u said "believe what you want"

LightOfArt said:

Yeah, and in none of those pictures did a black man become paper-white.

Michael had the vitiligo since late 70s when there was no cure for it yet. Now it's too late for Michael. If you ever read about Vitiligo(I did) the treatment being used lately for people who has vitiligo in late stages is depigmentation. And that's probably what they did for Michael because in early stages of his vitiligo no such treatment existed. That's Michael's colour without make-up

[This message was edited Sat Jul 24 5:33:59 2004 by LightOfArt]

LightOfArt said:

Yeah, and according to your pictures, after her treatment she did not have anything close to the complexion of Michael Jackson.

theVelvetRoper said:

I always thought Prince fans were the craziest, but we're boring compared to MJ fans

theVelvetRoper said:

Are you reading my posts or not??
As you can see from the pictures i posted, they were able to treat her because the vitiligo was in the early stages. Not same for MJ. When MJ first had vitiligo they were still not able to do anything.

Let me tell you again:
1) Early stages of vitiligo is being repigmented
2) Late stages of vitiligo is being depigmented. That's mike. When they started healing vitiligo, Michael's vit was already too far to remigment. so what they could only do was to depigment it completely.

REAd THIS:

Total skin depigmentation

This treatment is only performed in extreme cases: widespread vitiligo affecting over 40% of the total skin surface and resistant to any other attempted treatment. In these cases patients should be informed that total skin depigmentation is irreversible and permanent, requires the constant use of powerful sun filters in order to prevent repigmentation and, most of all, may result into serious contact dermatitis, xerosis, erythema, hypochromic patches, blackish patches after long-term treatment, skin irritation of various degrees, burning, and itching. The residual skin pigments are eliminated by means of a cream containing either 20% monobenzyl-ether of hydroquinone (MBEH) or hydroquinone, two powerful skin sensitizing agents; the excessively white skin colour is reduced by combining these agents with the oral intake of beta-carotene.

didnt he say he cant sunbathe in some interviews?

theVelvetRoper said:

I wrote an essay on John Glen senior year in high school...


lol

its safe to say the only thing im not good at is politics.. hehe but hey there's still time

LightOfArt said:

LightOfArt said:

No, not really.



Yes, and he has also said he's had only 2 nose-jobs, and that was solely for respiratory purposes.

theVelvetRoper said:

"I.....I can't breathe.....OK, DOC, CHOP IT OFF!"

VoicesCarry said:

And give me a smaller one while you're at it!

least i try my best not to be infantile unlike some
Im done with this thread
PEACE
your on your own light hehe

"Holocaust Avenue,2009"

i don't know. Somebody posts pretty convincing pics of MJ's condition and folks still won't concede "Hey, he just might be telling the truth!". But no, it's on to the next thing 'let's take the piss out of how many nose surgeries he's had". Fucking pathetic.

You know what, i hope he wins his trial, is resoundingly found innocent and despite everything has a storming success with his next few albums. That'd piss a few of you assclowns off!

Marrk said:

Someone's taking this thread way too seriously.

Marrk said:

It really wouldn't piss me off at all, if I'm one of the "assclowns" you refer to. I'm actually a fan of Michael's music, and I would think it's great if he came back with some good albums. He may be telling the truth, but I don't believe it. And yes, I do find it funny that he expects everyone to believe that he hasn't really had surgery to "enhance" his appearance. I hardly think that makes me pathetic.

theVelvetRoper said:

--->

theVelvetRoper said:

I think he's bored shitless being asked the same questions about the surgeries, he addressed that way back in his Moonwalk book (it was 2 nosejobs and a cleft in his chin back then), was also asked by Oprah, Barbara Walters, Bashir and probably a few more too. The answers he gives are given with a hint of disdain (i'm sure he'd love to tell the interviewer to mind their own fucking business in all honesty)

It annoys me, nobody ever asks Janet about her excessive surgeries. Why is that?

theVelvetRoper said:

yes u do! u just cant accept it! u couldnt even quote my last post



it is taken from www.vitiligo.com

Marrk said:

Well, this subject wasn't about Janet, but let's talk about her now that you've brought it up. Yes, Janet has had some surgery to enhance her appearance. Your point?

theVelvetRoper said:

nobody ever asks Janet about her excessive surgeries. Why is that?

this is getting good...

well i have stated above that Cher did as much surgery as MJ and she looks nothing like she used to. but she isnt made fun of in cheap shows, there's not a documentary called 'Cher's Face' or 'Cher:If thats whats happening outside, whats going on inside'.

MY point is that MJ is treated UNFAIRLY both in the media and in the eyes of people for AGES
[This message was edited Sat Jul 24 7:07:18 2004 by LightOfArt]

Marrk said:

Um, because she still looks normal, perhaps? In my opinion, I wouldn't call her surgery "excessive", so I really can't answer you. If she gets to where Michael looks, then I'm sure she'll get the questions.

And, anyway, Janet gets her fair share of questions and rumors, so don't play the "everyone just wants to pick on Michael" game. Save that for a Michael forum.