vainandy said:

OK, must we mention Whitney in every post? Besides, it was Arista and the producers that were hired for her first album that are responsible for the music, not her.

That aside, I agree with you.

psykosoul said:

Solo Richie sux out loud. But Carlton's cool, cuz he was funny.

Seems like people are confusing "sell out" w/ "any black artist who doesn't do R&B music" & THAT'S SOME LAME SHIT

CalhounSq said:

co sign.



huge co sign! a kno ppl who wanna b rappers and this is all they rap about..bull shit..shit they don't kno and aint true.

Supernova said:

Hold up. Lets not go there with Anita Baker. The closes coounterpart to her is Randy Crawford. she has never sold out. She been consistent to the kind of music that is in her soul. What, because she sings ballads and contemperary non offensive lyrics, she is not keeping it real?

By the way Supernova, this rant isn't to you.

People said rapper mc hammer sold out bigtime! Y, 'cause he was the first rapper to take advantage of sponsership deals with Pepsi,Kfc etc....plus his cartoon show.....unfair really but Hammer was the first huge selling rap artist, so later other rappers proberly learnt form his mistakes.....



this was one (of a few) reasons y Hammer was not "Down with the hood" in early 90's!

Look, you need to go back to the top of the page and scroll down and READ all the responses I have posted regarding Anita Baker. I'm am tired of typing them over and over. My fingers are getting tired from it. READ!!!!!

thesexofit said:

Co-sign. If MC Hammer is a sell-out than soo is 90% of the rappers out now, especially since most of them have clothing labels and endorse Versace, Prada, Benz, and Cristal names brands in their songs. Diddy is a sell-out to MTV, because why whould you do a show that used to be about making a pop, boyband? Sure, "Making the Band" was entertaining, but nobody can tell me that Diddy didn't sell-out. If an artist is doing more than just music, they are sell-outs to me. Which means that not only are some black artists total sell-outs, but so are many white artists...at least being a sell-out is universal now.

As much as I hate hip hop, I have to get in on this one. I didn't hate hip hip until the gansta rap era when the tempo was totally slowed down. It's about the music to me. I like something you can shake ass to.

Hammer did his first album to an R&B audience and that's where it stayed. His second album was geared to an R&B audience, the pop audience jumped onto it. Yes he did commercials and cartoons but so did the Jackson 5. That is not selling out, that is making money.

I consider selling out as changing your style just to make money. What the hell does doing commercials or making cartoons have to do with changing your style. He was never a hardcore gangster anyway. The "hardcore ganstas" labeled him as a sell out because they were jealous. They didn't have the talent to do anything faster than midtempo. The early rap was fast and made for the dance floor. Look at Felix & Jarvis' "Flamethrower Rap", that was practically a tongue twister. Any idiot can "talk" over a slow enough beat. I loved hip hop in early 80s.

Hammer is guilty of selling out though. When they called him a sell out, he returned dressing and acting just them.....that is selling out in the highest form! BE YOUR DAMNED SELF!!!!

estelle1981 said:

I disagree. I think Sean Combs (I refuse to call that muuufucka "D***Y!) was sold from jump. He's always wanted to make whatever's hot, whatever folks will dance to. To me, being a "sell out" is more a change in the core of who you are as an artist & what you'll do for money, fame, etc. Combs wanted all this flashy shit all along - the tv show, the appearances, the parties, the jewelery, the clothes. He ain't sold out, he just fulfilled his dreams - but I do believe (just from the type of person he seems to be to me) that he was bought & sold before he was even hot in the game. So how do you sell out when you're already sold?

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CalhounSq said:

As far as Puff Daddy, P Ditty, or what ever cartoon character name he wants to go by goes, when your main instrument is a turntable.....you are a DJ.....not a fucking musician!

Pay attention to the title of the thread which reads "Biggest Sell Out Black Artist".....not "Biggest Sell Out Black DJ".

vainandy is beginning to scare me

Somehow the quote I placed didn't show up. Anyway, in reference to Puff Daddy, it was a joke. Pay attention to the thread....it is "Biggest Sellout Black Artist", not "Biggest Sellout Black DJ". Refering to Puff Daddy as DJ rather than an artist.

vainandy said:

Will you please stop telling me to "pay attention to the thread"?? I AM paying attention - I responded to someone else bringing up Combs. YOU pay attention

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CalhounSq said:

I was not directing any animosity towards you. I was making a joke calling Combs a DJ rather than an artist. When I said paid attention to the title, that was part of the joke. The title says artist, I was calling him a DJ.....it's all part of the joke.

If I offended you in any way, I am sorry.

I was agreeing with you about Combs.

My first .ORG post

As some artist said about selling out, and I paraphrase:

"Sell out? I sell out everywhere I go. New York, L.A., Chicago..."

I dunno. It seems to me that a sell-out is a person who forgets their principles. With things the way they are in the world, a sell-out music artist is so off the scale that it really isn't worth mentioning.


Colin Powell??? Now THERE'S a sell-out!

smoothpants said:

Oy.

thesexofit said:

Man...Stanley (MC Hammer) had the nerve to dance for chicken (KFC) on TV. He should have thought a little bit more before he decided to endorse KFC. Then he should have thought some more. Ultimately, he shouldn't have done it at all.

smoothpants said: