theAudience said:

I'll quit with the chart quoting

The fact that small regional success came for some songs from certain non-Soul/R&B artists (and vice versa) in different areas of the country is just partly indicative of the fact that radio was in a much better state during that time. It wasn't controlled by a couple of monopolies, and a lot of DJ's had more freedom to pick what they thought their communities would dig.

SquarePeg said:

Actually He's Right--I forgot about that--I don't know if it hit nationally, but in the east, it did get R&B airplay...

I guess yall don't know that Vicki Sue Robinson is part black

I guess yall don't know that Vicki Sue Robinson is part black

psykosoul said:

She is??? Well she sure is light...that would include a whole 'nother list of folks...
Smokey Robinson, Al B Sure, Mariah...etc.

SynthiaRose said:

WHICH song?


Yes, yes, yes...


"Lady"? No. Not on any R&B station I know of.

Supernova said:

Lady hit #1 R&B and pop simultaneously.

meltwithu said:

No, it didn't. It hit the top of the pop and country charts.

Supernova said:

Country music sales had been in decline, but were revived in 1980 thanks in no small measure to the popularity of the film Urban Cowboy. The so-called "Nashville Sound" -- pop-country tunes with lush arrangements that incorporated strings and synthesizers -- was in vogue. The leading purveyors of this sound included Kenny Rogers, a pop singer (formerly with First Edition) turned country crooner. This was a very good year for Rogers, whose 1979 album Kenny was certified platinum and the single "Coward Of The County" was a transatlantic chart-topper. Rogers scored again this year with "Lady," a ballad penned by Lionel Richie that would spend six weeks at US#1 while also topping the R&B, C&W and Adult Contemporary charts. Rogers walked away with an armload of Grammy and American Music Awards in 1980.


see for yourself

http://eightiesclub.tripo.../id207.htm

meltwithu said:

Trust me when I tell you I'm not trying to nitpick, but I was gonna say that during that time I never once heard Rogers' "Lady" on any R&B station in either Los Angeles or San Diego (the only two cities I had access to radio at the time), and to be sure I checked different random sites with info about the song. I couldn't find a single one that mentioned this song hitting the top spot on the R&B chart. That being the case, it seems that the info on the site you posted is inaccurate. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that if it were accurate the info would be easy to find anywhere there is info about the song. It would be nice if I could find R&B charts for every week during the '80s, but I can't.

Somebody else chime in if you have info about Kenny's "Lady" topping the R&B chart, it would be much appreciated.

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Kenny Rogers' appeal is as wide as it is legendary, with many of his songs crossing over from one chart to another. "Lady" (1980) and "Islands in the Stream" (his duet with Dolly Parton in 1983) for example, were No. 1 on three charts: country, adult contemporary and Top 40.

Supernova said:

Here I am again scouring my chart info. As far as chart information goes, Billboard is pretty much the industry standard. Yes, there are other charts, but Billboard is the most widely recognized and quoted source for gauging music popularity.

Kenny Rogers had 2 charted R&B hits. Lady entered the R&B chart on November 8, 1980 and peaked at #42 (it topped #1 on the Hot 100 for 6 weeks). His only other R&B chart entry was What About Me?, a single with Kim Carnes and James Ingram. It entered the chart on October 6, 1984 and peaked at #57.

That's it for Kenny. No #1 R&B for him.

psykosoul said:

For some reason I thought she was part Hispanic.

why is it called crossing over

because it's white artists

crossing 2 black radio?

another thread called

it selling out if it

involved black artists

crossing over 2 white radio

sumtymes said:

Well, that whole selling out thread is a joke anyway, but generally speaking when you intentionally make a successful move from R&B to mainstream pop, you're going to make a lot more money. When you go from mainstream pop to R&B, the same does not apply. R&B is a smaller market than pop.

RipHer2Shreds said:

what i find interesting is this: behind many white, pop artists are black writers, producers and choreographers these white pop artists are making a ton of money off of a sound and image that derives from black culture why is r&b more valued by some when it is presented through white artists as opposed to black artists?

My Favorites:

Bobby Caldwell ("What You Won't Do For Love", "Just Can't Say Goodbye")

Hall and Oates

Bee Gees

Boz Scaggs ("Lowdown", "Jojo", "Ms Riddle")

Doobie Bros./Michael Mcdonald

AWB

Steely Dan/Donald Fagen ( Peg, Hey Nineteen,Time Out Of Mind, IGY(What A Beautiful World))

Elton John ("Bennie and The Jets", "I'm Still Standing")

Wild Cherry ("Play That Funky Music")

Tower Of Power ("So Very Hard To Go", "What Is Hip", "You're Still A Young Man", "Love's Been Gone So Long",etc.)

Leo Sayer ("You Make Me Feel Like Dancin'")

Gino Vanelli ("I Just Wanna Stop")

Peter Brown ( "Do Ya Wanna Get Funky With Me", (C'mon and)"Dance With Me")

Rickie Lee Jones (" Chuck E's In Love")

James Taylor "How Sweet It Is(To Be Loved By You)"

Steve Miller Band ("Fly like an Eagle" (at least, in DC, it was played on R&B radio)"Abracadabra")

Robert Palmer ("Every Kinda People", "Sneakin Sally Through The Alley" Some Like It Hot (with Power Station, etc...))

Kraftwerk ("Trans Europe Express", "Numbers, Tour De France")

The Police ("Voices Inside My Head")(again at least, on the DC R&B stations)

Thomas Dolby("She Blinded Me With Science", "Hyperactive")

Tears For Fears ("Shout", "Everybody Wants To Rule The World",etc...)

Go West ("Eye To Eye", "the King Of Wishful Thinking")

Howard Jones ("Things Can Only Get Better")

Human League ("Human")

Culture Club (" I'll tumble 4Ya" "Do You Really Want To Hurt Me","It's A Miracle", "Mistake No.#3", etc.)

Kenny Loggins ("Love Will Follow")

David Bowie( "Fame", "Let's Dance")

Rod Stewart (" Do Ya Think I'm Sexy")

Rolling Stones ("Miss You", "Dance")

Wham/George Michael

Paul McCartney ( "Let Em In", "Silly Love Songs", "With A Little Luck", Coming Up", "Arrow Through Me",If you can count duets,"The Girl Is Mine", "Say Say Say" and even though I Hate it, "Ebony And Ivory")

Level 42 ("Starchild", "Love Games","Something About You", "Good Man In A Storm")

Kajagoogoo ("Too Shy")

Swing Out Sister ("Breakout", "Twilight World", "Surrender", etc.)

Simply Red ("Holding Back The Years", "It's Only Love", "Never Never Love")

Everything But The Girl ("Driving", "The Language Of Life" "Old Friends")


Herb Alpert ("Rise", "Making Love In The Rain", "Pillow", "Keep Your Eye On me")

Toto ("Georgie Porgie", "99")

Queen ("We Will Rock You", "Another One Bites The Dust")

Tom Tom Club/Talking Heads("Genius Of Love, " Burning Down The House")

DEVO ( "Whip It" and if you count collaborations, Jermaine Jackson's "Let Me Tickle Your Fancy")

And, technically, if it counts,: The Family ( "Screams Of Passion")
[This message was edited Wed Jul 14 7:56:39 2004 by paligap]

RipHer2Shreds said: