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Reply #180 posted 06/06/26 2:07pm

johnpiex

You can’t simultaneously blame the guys before while taking credit for their work. It doesn’t work like that. “Timeless” seems like it’s going to be the Prince Estate’s “Michael.”
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Reply #181 posted 06/06/26 6:48pm

ShellyMcG

johnpiex said:

You can’t simultaneously blame the guys before while taking credit for their work. It doesn’t work like that. “Timeless” seems like it’s going to be the Prince Estate’s “Michael.”


It won't be that bad. I assume the songs on Timeless will actually be Prince songs at least.
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Reply #182 posted 06/06/26 9:09pm

Vannormal

We have good basic information on most songs via Princevault, except for "Bestest Friend" (4:38).

Let's hope they provide much more info on all songs this time, it looks like they wanna do that.

But again, an uncertain wait till 28 august, or maybe even not.

They actually already could provide that, can do no harm to the official date of release.

It would show some improvement on their lack of decent communication.

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Why didn't they provide more clear information on "Timeless"?

Why that choice?

Why (not a clear and detailed explanation on) the change of their course on releases? Even if it is pure financial, at least that would be honest and openly clear for all to try to understand.

Why didn't they explained basic info on each track yet? WHy not? Can do no harm. It can even attrack interest from media to write about it, and anxiously want to hear it.

Why only 9 songs?

Why a live song?

Why the artwork?

Why no video's yet?

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And as far as I understand, Primary Wave has certainly played a somewhat more low-key role in this whole affair, refraining (for the time being) from sending out any unfiltered BS or ambiguous statements (unlike the two lightweights do).

But it does seem that PW are fully on The Estate’s side when it comes to future releases.
Perhaps we should hear more from them, interview them, probe them, see if there is a difference or not (in communication alone).

"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #183 posted 06/07/26 8:38am

Marrk

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AvocadosMax said:

Just what is this.. Worse than the Michael Jackson estate and that’s saying something

The estate that is worth anywhere between $2.5 - $5bn? That one that does stuff? I say that as I stare at my Inart 1/6 Dangerous and Smooth Criminal MJ figures and having just enjoyed his biopic. Prince's estate has gone backwards since the heights of the 1999 and SOTT SDE's. Such a shame. Prince should be everywhere, whether people like commercial stuff or not.

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Reply #184 posted 06/07/26 10:31am

TweetyV6

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trickyjoe7777 said:

Obviously so many things wrong with this but the ultimate kick in the balls for me is trimming Heaven to a radio edit - it's been an absolute grail for me (and many others) to have this pristine with presumably the start and the fuckwits lop over three minutes off of it.

i fucking despair

You will get that with the 'Timeless SDE' release next year cool

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Reply #185 posted 06/07/26 11:30am

funkbabyandthe
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I don't think there will be any info on the songs included from the estate
Let's hope there's liner notes of some sort though
It's a stingy release but hey I know I will like some/most of the songs on there even if there aren't many to choose from
The mj estate is diff as it has so many ppl from family to ppl mj worked with involved
The prince estate has none of that
You'd need someone like Alan Leeds on board as an equivalent or something other close label /business (ie not just band members) collaborators
As it stands it looks like no one he worked with is involved really
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Reply #186 posted 06/07/26 9:56pm

homesquid

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Marrk said:

AvocadosMax said:

Just what is this.. Worse than the Michael Jackson estate and that’s saying something

The estate that is worth anywhere between $2.5 - $5bn? That one that does stuff? I say that as I stare at my Inart 1/6 Dangerous and Smooth Criminal MJ figures and having just enjoyed his biopic. Prince's estate has gone backwards since the heights of the 1999 and SOTT SDE's. Such a shame. Prince should be everywhere, whether people like commercial stuff or not.

Word! The MJ estate are a godzillion times better than McMillions & company. Look even SOTT SDE wasn't perfect. Where the FUCK is the sax version of "Crucial" my personal favorite outtake by a mile

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Reply #187 posted 06/08/26 8:08pm

NICKthebrick

From reports elsewhere it sounds as if the version of Heaven is the mix Prince intended for The Dawn project.

So it's not been edited by the estate but is as Prince intended.
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Reply #188 posted 06/08/26 8:31pm

shakalakaboom

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NICKthebrick said:

From reports elsewhere it sounds as if the version of Heaven is the mix Prince intended for The Dawn project.

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I’m actually happy to hear this, as I’m firmly of the opinion that MOST of Prince’s songs over 6 minutes need an edit. Lots of noodly jamming in that catalogue, and there are so many songs that benefited from a prerelease edit.
That 8 minute Heaven really loses steam about the 5 minute mark….
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Also I don’t care if this is your favorite song and Prince can do no wrong.
if you could just pass your history class, baby, life would be all right.
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Reply #189 posted 06/09/26 1:11am

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ShellyMcG said:

They shouldn't abandon the entire SDE model just because Diamonds & Pearls didn't sell as much as they were hoping for. They should instead be asking WHY it didn't sell as well as they thought.


Never going to happen. That would involve even the simplest form of self reflection and Londell truly believes that every move they make is absolutely genius. And why look in the mirror when you can simply bitch and whine about ungrateful fans and blame them for all your issues?
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Hard to believe I've been on the org for over 25 years now!
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Reply #190 posted 06/09/26 8:55am

olb99

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shakalakaboom said:

MOST of Prince’s songs over 6 minutes need an edit


What are the exceptions, in your opinion?

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Reply #191 posted 06/09/26 2:02pm

djThunderfunk

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shakalakaboom said:

NICKthebrick said:
From reports elsewhere it sounds as if the version of Heaven is the mix Prince intended for The Dawn project.
. . I’m actually happy to hear this, as I’m firmly of the opinion that MOST of Prince’s songs over 6 minutes need an edit. Lots of noodly jamming in that catalogue, and there are so many songs that benefited from a prerelease edit. That 8 minute Heaven really loses steam about the 5 minute mark…. . . Also I don’t care if this is your favorite song and Prince can do no wrong.


Luckily, your opinion is in the minority.


Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
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Reply #192 posted 06/09/26 2:34pm

dustoff

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Noodly jamming is the best.

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Reply #193 posted 06/09/26 3:35pm

JorisE73

homesquid said:

Marrk said:

The estate that is worth anywhere between $2.5 - $5bn? That one that does stuff? I say that as I stare at my Inart 1/6 Dangerous and Smooth Criminal MJ figures and having just enjoyed his biopic. Prince's estate has gone backwards since the heights of the 1999 and SOTT SDE's. Such a shame. Prince should be everywhere, whether people like commercial stuff or not.

Word! The MJ estate are a godzillion times better than McMillions & company. Look even SOTT SDE wasn't perfect. Where the FUCK is the sax version of "Crucial" my personal favorite outtake by a mile


I would say Prince's estate is now on par with MJ's. MJ's estate has infuriated me more than Prince's but only becaus s he's gone for a longer time than PRince.

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