do we know of any outtakes? the only one I can think of is the early version of "However Much U Want"

but beyond that, no outtakes come to mind. I think the only things he took off it were the segues to
make room for "I wanna Melt With U" which was the last song written for the album.

are any alternate versions known that have different songs? and what kind of material might fall in
the era as far as session/related tracks? the miles davis instrumental? I'll do Anything songs?

it will be very interesting to know what he recorded between the last material for and the first
songs that ended up in Glam Slam Ulysses. I love the shift his music made at that point so very, very
interested in anything that could bridge that gap.

I guess "race" falls in there somewhere, although that was recorded closer to D&P iirc.

yes yes, starting to nerd out and getting a bit excited now

oh, wait, Goldnigga falls in that gap! With "Call The Law" spanning from Diamonds & Pearls
b-side up to being included on the Goldnigga album which was released after the O(+? album.



so early versions of those tracks? although tony wrote his own raps so maybe a bunch of
instrumentals? an early version of Johnny?

oh god there's also Work That Fat, isn't there?

oh and the whole Carmen album

which means that somehow an updated version of "Good Judy Girlfriend" might be in the
vault? or did carmen just record her vocals over the original 1988 track that was intended
for the Rave album in 88?

ooh, once you start pulling threads, you end up in so many different places with prince and
his vault and the various projects he worked on.

LILpoundCAKE said:

work that fat is genuinely a great song and groove and needs to be part of the set. yes i know it's martika's kitchen but the song works in the same sparse way bob george works.

not comparing work that fat to bob george but it's the same general vibe

TrivialPursuit said:

Now I have to do my Tony M edits all over again!

Lucky for me, I have a blueprint from 10 years ago.

So, you're "Gett Off (Damn Near 10 Minutes)" will then be "Gett (rid) Off (Tony M)"???

Damn near insanity

LoveGalore said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

do we know of any outtakes? the only one I can think of is the early version of "However Much U Want"

but beyond that, no outtakes come to mind. I think the only things he took off it were the segues to
make room for "I wanna Melt With U" which was the last song written for the album.

are any alternate versions known that have different songs? and what kind of material might fall in
the era as far as session/related tracks? the miles davis instrumental? I'll do Anything songs?

it will be very interesting to know what he recorded between the last material for and the first
songs that ended up in Glam Slam Ulysses. I love the shift his music made at that point so very, very
interested in anything that could bridge that gap.

I guess "race" falls in there somewhere, although that was recorded closer to D&P iirc.

yes yes, starting to nerd out and getting a bit excited now

Keep in mind that there's an infinite possibility of things like alt takes that we have no idea about as the previous SDEs show. There is also a much stronger argument for material we don't know about as the leaks had already begun to be filled by this point. And to great effect. The Gold sessions being an outlier because Prince was likely responsible for a lot of them. There's plenty stuff from this era that we know about and is comparable in number to 1999 or Parade eras. Assuming the Originals concept was not considered much of a success, there is certainly a possibility that his versions of songs will appear. I'd love that for the Martika and Eric Leeds stuff alone. Nevermind anything he possibly did with Rosie - which I'll take more of in any form. I think the data of this era gets colored by people's mixed feelings about it that gives the impression there isn't a ton of material. But really there is - did When The Lights Go Down leak ahead of it's release? Don't think so. Don't think I ever saw that title anywhere until it's release. There is a very beefy chance there's more we don't know about. [Edited 3/8/23 12:56pm]

ooh good call, on "when the lights go down" ! yes, those are the kind of tracks that none of us knew about until they were released. so a lot of stuff probably isn't known about.

and I would love love love decent quality takes of the martika songs and stuff he worked on with rosie

Not to mention the possibility of some of these songs being much older than we thought (like how "I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man" was originally from 1979). It would be wild to find out "Blue Light" was originally a demo from 1981 or "Love 2 The 9s" shared the melody and some lyrics with an outtake from For You.

Probably not but we've been surprised before!

LILpoundCAKE said:

and I would love love love decent quality takes of the martika songs and stuff he worked on with rosie

.

If the Estate forget the Originals II, well, Allegiance and I Hear Your Voice are two Prince outtakes I really love.

LILpoundCAKE said:

and I would love love love decent quality takes of the martika songs and stuff he worked on with rosie

How good would it be to have a Prince version of "My Tender Heart"???

LILpoundCAKE said:

dodger07 said:

LoveGalore said:

LoveGalore said:

Schoolyard will be on the set unedited. I said it will be on the set unedited back in October 2020 when the D&P rumors first started and I'm saying it will be on the set in March 2023 now that we have confirmation something's happening. No need to scaremonger, literally the only reason Extraloveable and Lust U Always weren't included was because they used the word rape in the context they did, it's as simple as that. As graphic and IMO kind of weird Schoolyard is, it's too nuanced (read: not nuanced at all but it takes an actual reading of the lyrics to really grasp what's going on) for me to be worried at all, at all, about them trying to cut it.

Thank you.

FrankieCoco1 said:

Verse from Schoolyard. Discuss? Now boys & girls 4 the graphic part Close ur ears If U ain't got a nasty heart The schoolyard... (Here we go) Now take a glove Fill it with hot baby lotion & slip it on (Well) Pull it tight That's what Carrie was like 1 stroke & was gone Gone was - it's true The schoolyard... https://www.moonbeamlevel...olyard.htm

i've never really understood this lyric. is he saying that she jerked him off and
her hands were so soft and warm that they felt like a glove filled with hot baby
lotion (or at least that such a thing would come close to what her hand felt like).

or is he saying that he actually had penetrative sex with her and her scarlet puss puss
felt like that glove?

i'm more inclined to go with the first one and that wouldn't be anything for even
the snowflakes to raise an eyebrow about, would it? getting a handy j, i mean come
on, big deal.

the bigger turd in the pipeline is that in this story the boy is 16, the girl is 14 - yet
in europe, still not a very big deal if both consent.

yet, the turd gets even bigger as we learn that carrie gets high on ace's pot, while
p just wants to dance and by the time she's seeing double they both get in trouble
-i'm guessing he is still sober at this point.

so that's where we get into some hot (turd infested) water.

it will be an interesting litmus test for the estate, regarding risque material i guess,
in this day and age.

i would have laughed at all of this and said 'no one will get worked up over this', yet
we now live in a world where -indeed like dodger said- roald dahl books are being
adjusted for language and where voices keep getting louder and louder that we really
should not be reading Dostoyevski anymore - since russia invading ukrain etc.

it won't be long before we have book burnings again. which is the day i will finally go
out onto the streets and start smashing some heads in.

but i do hope that before then we'll at least get another 2 dozen genre bending, line
crossing, toe stepping, dick stubbing prince tunes with absolute filthy lyrics.

edit: now i'm wondering if anyone on the org ever filled a glove with hot baby lotion
and slipped it on (either their hand or their big fat cawk). some of you freaks have,
I'm sure. I would have myself, but I'm allergic to latex

[Edited 3/8/23 14:23pm]

dodger07 said:

LoveGalore said:

Considering Schoolyard was the original title track for the 1991 album, I would say it is impossible to exclude it and that would be a much bigger insult than the two missing songs on 1999's SDE.

Totally agree but will they want the bad press it could bring. Even a funny track like Work That Fat will raise snow flake shouts of ‘he was degrading and body shaming.’ In a time when Roald Dahl books are being edited fuck knows.. But that’s a whole other conversation

100%

Dahl or Prince, big business should not be basing decision around what a handful of weirdos on Twitter will get upset about when 95 percent of the real world doesn't give a shit and won't even be bothered to listen in the first place.

And I'm confident they won't, so Schoolyard will indeed be on this set and it wasn't even a question in my mind for a second. Now this doesn't address the fact that Schoolyard itself is just an awful song, but to each his own.

dodger07 said:

LoveGalore said:

I'm not convinced the press gives a shit tbh. I'm not convinced anyone would've given a shit about EL or LUA.

They wouldn't have. Anyone thinking that Extraloveable or Lust (Me) Always would've moved the needle in any way is delusional and just looking for stuff to get angry about. Would've been maybe a sensationalist article or two, maybe an unflattering mention in a review, maybe a few days of a couple hundred twitter people posting snide things, maybe one or two #CancelPrince tweets, and then it would've been over and 99.999999 percent of the music listening public would've moved on.

Unfortunately I guess that was enough of a thought to scare them from even trying to put it out!

Vannormal said:

Landonfunkmonkey said:

I wonder how much vault material would be included. Only a handful of songs spring to my mind. I Wonder Player Open book Small bright light Schoolyard

I never listened to these outtakes again, so just pop them up for an hour ago.

Man, they are bad, and i mean NOT GOOD AT ALL.

Prince's songwriting was at an absolute dissapointing level for me.

No wonder he did not release them.

C'mon. I have always thought 'I Wonder' is better than most of the D&P album. It's a beautiful little song and sounds much more Prince-ly than most of the songs that made the release. I assumed it was almost universally beloved. 'Open Book' is great too, in spite of having a few clunky rhymes and teetering dangerously close (but not quite) to being too sentimental. And technically not a D&P outtake but from the same era, Prince's original version of 'I Hear Your Voice' is haunting. One my favourite unreleased Prince recordings.


Of course, it's the D&P era, there's going to be some chaff left in the wheat.

lustmealways said:

and god created woman is one of my favorite songs of all time ever ever

the way he carries that vocal melody of "I am guilty of no sin" is just fucking perfect. holy SHIT.

[Edited 3/8/23 8:48am]

Oh, indeed. The phrasing of 'I am guilty of no sin' gets me every time. I can listen to it again and again. Perfection.

.

[Edited 3/8/23 16:01pm]

LILpoundCAKE said:

FrankieCoco1 said:

Verse from Schoolyard. Discuss? Now boys & girls 4 the graphic part Close ur ears If U ain't got a nasty heart The schoolyard... (Here we go) Now take a glove Fill it with hot baby lotion & slip it on (Well) Pull it tight That's what Carrie was like 1 stroke & was gone Gone was - it's true The schoolyard... https://www.moonbeamlevel...olyard.htm

i've never really understood this lyric. is he saying that she jerked him off and
her hands were so soft and warm that they felt like a glove filled with hot baby
lotion (or at least that such a thing would come close to what her hand felt like).

or is he saying that he actually had penetrative sex with her and her scarlet puss puss
felt like that glove?

i'm more inclined to go with the first one and that wouldn't be anything for even
the snowflakes to raise an eyebrow about, would it? getting a handy j, i mean come
on, big deal.

the bigger turd in the pipeline is that in this story the boy is 16, the girl is 14 - yet
in europe, still not a very big deal if both consent.

yet, the turd gets even bigger as we learn that carrie gets high on ace's pot, while
p just wants to dance and by the time she's seeing double they both get in trouble
-i'm guessing he is still sober at this point.

so that's where we get into some hot (turd infested) water.

it will be an interesting litmus test for the estate, regarding risque material i guess,
in this day and age.

i would have laughed at all of this and said 'no one will get worked up over this', yet
we now live in a world where -indeed like dodger said- roald dahl books are being
adjusted for language and where voices keep getting louder and louder that we really
should not be reading Dostoyevski anymore - since russia invading ukrain etc.

it won't be long before we have book burnings again. which is the day i will finally go
out onto the streets and start smashing some heads in.

but i do hope that before then we'll at least get another 2 dozen genre bending, line
crossing, toe stepping, dick stubbing prince tunes with absolute filthy lyrics.

edit: now i'm wondering if anyone on the org ever filled a glove with hot baby lotion
and slipped it on (either their hand or their big fat cawk). some of you freaks have,
I'm sure. I would have myself, but I'm allergic to latex

[Edited 3/8/23 14:23pm]

He told Neal Karlen that Schoolyard was about his "first time getting some", so I guess it's about penetrative sex.

LoveGalore said:

Alice - 1991 Boom Box Brass Monkey 1991 Crystal City Cry Ingrid Chavez 1991 Do U Wanna Rock? intended for The New Power Generation 1991 Gett Off’s Cousin - 1991 Hey, Louie Louie intended for Louie Louie 1991 Hey U Margie Cox: Untitled album 1991 Joyful Sound Diamonds And Pearls 1991 The Juice Carmen Electra: Carmen Electra 1991 Last Dance - 1991 Letter 4 Miles (instrumental) - 1991 Player - 1991 Power From Above Carmen Electra: Carmen Electra 1991 Small Bright Light - 1991 Stroke - 1991 Uh Huh - 1991 Waiting 4 Your Love - 1991 Work That Fat - 1991 The Arabic Intro (performed live in 1992) 1992 Baby Doll intended for Kylie Minogue 1992 Be My Mirror Various Artists: I’ll Do Anything soundtrack 1992 Coca-Cola Theme for the Coca-Cola Company 1992 Down Tevin Campbell: I’m Ready 1992 I Can’t Love U Anymore Various Artists: I’ll Do Anything soundtrack 1992 I’ll Do Anything Various Artists: I’ll Do Anything soundtrack 1992 Make Believe Various Artists: I’ll Do Anything soundtrack 1992 The P Tevin Campbell: I’m Ready 1992 Poor Little Bastard Various Artists: I’ll Do Anything soundtrack 1992 Son Of Sexy M.F. - 1992 Wow Various Artists: I’ll Do Anything soundtrack 1992

Game Boys Groove
The Insatiable Suite (3 parts version for a abandonned Maxi single release)
Call The Law alternate version

LoveGalore said:

Some of u are probably awful in bed.

come to daddy and check your bucket list

lustmealways said:

work that fat is genuinely a great song and groove and needs to be part of the set. yes i know it's martika's kitchen but the song works in the same sparse way bob george works.

not comparing work that fat to bob george but it's the same general vibe

That song next to Bob George is fantastic !!!!!