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Why all the empty seats ? (Prince Le stade de France 30/07/11 show)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwV4FAbatc&t=43s&ab_channel=ThePrinceEncyclopedia

I'm watching this specific one and it seems like there's an entire side of the stadium that's empty. Did that tour not do well in Europe ? Lack of promotion ?

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Reply #1 posted 10/03/22 2:01pm

LoveGalore

paisleyparkgirl said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwV4FAbatc&t=43s&ab_channel=ThePrinceEncyclopedia



I'm watching this specific one and it seems like there's an entire side of the stadium that's empty. Did that tour not do well in Europe ? Lack of promotion ?



U thought Prince would fill a 80,000 seater in 2011 promoting nothing?
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Reply #2 posted 10/03/22 2:03pm

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Reply #3 posted 10/03/22 2:07pm

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Promotion costs money and the more artists promote the more tickets get scalped and fans have to pay way more for tix. Interpret that how you want.
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Reply #4 posted 10/03/22 4:08pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwV4FAbatc&t=43s&ab_channel=ThePrinceEncyclopedia

I'm watching this specific one and it seems like there's an entire side of the stadium that's empty. Did that tour not do well in Europe ? Lack of promotion ?

I see what you mean. The whole side behind the stage is empty. (and those are probably the best seats)

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Reply #5 posted 10/03/22 4:30pm

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They don't fill seats on the sides all the time. Bad seats. And this was a rescheduled show from May, so many ticket holders may not have returned. It's a 55K seat venue and he had over 45K in attendance. Clearly, many seats won't get filled because of either no view, or the stage and crew setup. This all seems pretty obvious.

That's the show where he changes shoes on the piano when "Musicology" starts.

And where the camera guy takes a fall at 44:11.

It's also the show where Prince comes out on stage with Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings for like 2 minutes, then leaves.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #6 posted 10/03/22 4:50pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

They don't fill seats on the sides all the time. Bad seats. And this was a rescheduled show from May, so many ticket holders may not have returned. It's a 55K seat venue and he had over 45K in attendance. Clearly, many seats won't get filled because of either no view, or the stage and crew setup. This all seems pretty obvious.


Makes sense then.

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Reply #7 posted 10/04/22 7:34am

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Obstructed view steating were not offered which is typical. The venue looked nearly sold out based on tickets that were offered.

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Reply #8 posted 10/04/22 12:00pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

They don't fill seats on the sides all the time. Bad seats. And this was a rescheduled show from May, so many ticket holders may not have returned. It's a 55K seat venue and he had over 45K in attendance. Clearly, many seats won't get filled because of either no view, or the stage and crew setup. This all seems pretty obvious.

That's the show where he changes shoes on the piano when "Musicology" starts.

And where the camera guy takes a fall at 44:11.

It's also the show where Prince comes out on stage with Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings for like 2 minutes, then leaves.


Some artist sell 70k or more tickets there so its not a 55k venue.
But i think for prince selling 45k is really amazing.
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Reply #9 posted 10/04/22 12:14pm

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TrivialPursuit said:

They don't fill seats on the sides all the time. Bad seats. And this was a rescheduled show from May, so many ticket holders may not have returned. It's a 55K seat venue and he had over 45K in attendance. Clearly, many seats won't get filled because of either no view, or the stage and crew setup. This all seems pretty obvious.

That's the show where he changes shoes on the piano when "Musicology" starts.

And where the camera guy takes a fall at 44:11.

It's also the show where Prince comes out on stage with Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings for like 2 minutes, then leaves.



It's an 81k seater.
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Reply #10 posted 10/04/22 1:40pm

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nextedition said:

Some artist sell 70k or more tickets there so its not a 55k venue. But i think for prince selling 45k is really amazing.


Fair enough.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #11 posted 10/04/22 11:39pm

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LoveGalore said:

TrivialPursuit said:

They don't fill seats on the sides all the time. Bad seats. And this was a rescheduled show from May, so many ticket holders may not have returned. It's a 55K seat venue and he had over 45K in attendance. Clearly, many seats won't get filled because of either no view, or the stage and crew setup. This all seems pretty obvious.

That's the show where he changes shoes on the piano when "Musicology" starts.

And where the camera guy takes a fall at 44:11.

It's also the show where Prince comes out on stage with Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings for like 2 minutes, then leaves.

It's an 81k seater.

But it was limited to 55k according to Princevault: http://princevault.com/in..._June_2011

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Reply #12 posted 10/05/22 12:19am

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LoveGalore said:

TrivialPursuit said: It's an 81k seater.

But it was limited to 55k according to Princevault: http://princevault.com/in..._June_2011


Ergo my original post. eek The seating doesn't matter to me anyway. 45K people is nothing to sneeze at.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #13 posted 10/05/22 4:49am

LoveGalore

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LoveGalore said:


TrivialPursuit said:

They don't fill seats on the sides all the time. Bad seats. And this was a rescheduled show from May, so many ticket holders may not have returned. It's a 55K seat venue and he had over 45K in attendance. Clearly, many seats won't get filled because of either no view, or the stage and crew setup. This all seems pretty obvious.

That's the show where he changes shoes on the piano when "Musicology" starts.

And where the camera guy takes a fall at 44:11.

It's also the show where Prince comes out on stage with Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings for like 2 minutes, then leaves.



It's an 81k seater.

But it was limited to 55k according to Princevault: http://princevault.com/in..._June_2011



They could limit it to 3k too. They could limit it to however they wanted.

But the point is it's an 81k seat venue and since the tour has a stage set up that was not in the round (like Musicology), they're not gonna sell tickets to the half of the venue that is literally behind the stage.
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Reply #14 posted 10/06/22 6:37am

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LoveGalore said:

TrivialPursuit said:

They don't fill seats on the sides all the time. Bad seats. And this was a rescheduled show from May, so many ticket holders may not have returned. It's a 55K seat venue and he had over 45K in attendance. Clearly, many seats won't get filled because of either no view, or the stage and crew setup. This all seems pretty obvious.

That's the show where he changes shoes on the piano when "Musicology" starts.

And where the camera guy takes a fall at 44:11.

It's also the show where Prince comes out on stage with Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings for like 2 minutes, then leaves.

It's an 81k seater.

But that's for sports events, right? Stadium capacity for concerts is typically much lower, for obvious reasons.

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Reply #15 posted 10/06/22 9:57am

LoveGalore

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LoveGalore said:


TrivialPursuit said:

They don't fill seats on the sides all the time. Bad seats. And this was a rescheduled show from May, so many ticket holders may not have returned. It's a 55K seat venue and he had over 45K in attendance. Clearly, many seats won't get filled because of either no view, or the stage and crew setup. This all seems pretty obvious.

That's the show where he changes shoes on the piano when "Musicology" starts.

And where the camera guy takes a fall at 44:11.

It's also the show where Prince comes out on stage with Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings for like 2 minutes, then leaves.



It's an 81k seater.


But that's for sports events, right? Stadium capacity for concerts is typically much lower, for obvious reasons.



That's max capacity. If the Musicology tour hit that venue, he could pote tially have sold all 81k.
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Reply #16 posted 10/06/22 5:53pm

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I was at this show. It didn't sell out, but it had a healthy turnout considering the tour didn't have much notice and there was no product to push.

The video is a bit misleading as it shows the parts of the stand theat were never on sale as they didn't know the final stage set up. The top tear was closed, reducing over all turnout, but it was still a healthy turnout and much in line with the attendance figures of the tour (most of the dates seemed to be around the 10,000 to 30,000 mark).

From a pure profit point of view, it's better to perform to a 3/4 full stadium for one night than it is to perform three nights in a 15,000 seat arena.

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Reply #17 posted 10/10/22 4:33am

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LoveGalore said:

leecaldon said:

But that's for sports events, right? Stadium capacity for concerts is typically much lower, for obvious reasons.

That's max capacity. If the Musicology tour hit that venue, he could pote tially have sold all 81k.

What I'm saying is, 81k will not be the max capacity for concerts, as the layout is different. All the seats behind/to the side of the stage are not sold. The extra tickets on the floor don't normally make up for that in a stadium.

For example, the old Wembley had a capacity of 80k for football, 72k for concerts.

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Reply #18 posted 10/10/22 7:58am

LoveGalore

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LoveGalore said:


leecaldon said:



But that's for sports events, right? Stadium capacity for concerts is typically much lower, for obvious reasons.



That's max capacity. If the Musicology tour hit that venue, he could pote tially have sold all 81k.



What I'm saying is, 81k will not be the max capacity for concerts, as the layout is different. All the seats behind/to the side of the stage are not sold. The extra tickets on the floor don't normally make up for that in a stadium.



For example, the old Wembley had a capacity of 80k for football, 72k for concerts.



If the concert were in the round, he would've sold dozens of thousands more. I'm not saying it was a bad turnout, check my first comment. I'm saying - it's an 81k max capacity stadium and he filled it to 45k with a standard stage set up (allowing for unused sections of the seating, and cutting costs by not shipping the symbol stage) promoting no actual album at all. He did incredibly well where the vibe of the OP is that it seemed like a poor turnout. The truth is that the tour did really well, was exceptionally performed, and the US audiences were almost entirely in the round.
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Reply #19 posted 10/10/22 11:05am

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LoveGalore said:

leecaldon said:

What I'm saying is, 81k will not be the max capacity for concerts, as the layout is different. All the seats behind/to the side of the stage are not sold. The extra tickets on the floor don't normally make up for that in a stadium.

For example, the old Wembley had a capacity of 80k for football, 72k for concerts.

If the concert were in the round, he would've sold dozens of thousands more. I'm not saying it was a bad turnout, check my first comment. I'm saying - it's an 81k max capacity stadium and he filled it to 45k with a standard stage set up (allowing for unused sections of the seating, and cutting costs by not shipping the symbol stage) promoting no actual album at all. He did incredibly well where the vibe of the OP is that it seemed like a poor turnout. The truth is that the tour did really well, was exceptionally performed, and the US audiences were almost entirely in the round.

Well good to know.

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