I must be in the minority. I'd rank Come as a bottom 5 album.

Perhaps if the Glam Slam Ulysses version of the title track was used instead I'd like it better. The album version of Come is one of my least favorite songs by any artists. Its super derivative. It sounds like it could have come from any middle-of-the-road '90s R&B artist. In contrast, the GSU version is like nothing else on the radio. It is uniquely Prince.

But to get back on topic, I do like Phermone. Not a favorite, but a decent song.

I can take or leave the lyrics. Nothing's shocking anymore. I just think it's a jam.

paisleyparkgirl said:

A lot of his 90's stuff would be phenomenal if he hadn't dropped the ball on the production quality.

i think this is half true.

but even if the production was more interesting for a song like endorphine machine, it still couldnt help the fact that the song sounds quite hastily put together after he got that riff down.

but yeah, less typical production would have made his 90s stuff a bit more interesting, for sure. he seemed more interested in showing he was a good musician in the 90s, and making more sonically/musically conservative choices more often than not. guess it was harder to take risks when youre not a certified hitmaker anymore? or when you care more about acceptance/success etc.

What's the chant in the background???

Pheremone. Oh man. THIS is one of his masterpieces. In his top 5 songs of the 90's for sure. The lyrics are as complex as a short story. Some of his best. But it's the arrangement that makes it genius. That spare sounding drum and octave it oscillates between. I don't think even in the 80's he had a song that was anything like this one, so hard hitting, liquid, sexy, and scary. "I want to save her / I want to watch." What a creepy but brilliant line -- straight out of David Lynch. It's a song I've come to appreciate more and more.

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nayroo2002 said:

What's the chant in the background???

"Pheromone make a nigga go crazy, fuckin' around make a nigga wanna die."

Yeah, those drums! Only trouble is the long intro before the action beings, but it's easily fixed with a simple edit.

RJOrion said:

the lyrics are def 'i was just listening to madonna's erotica'

One of the interesting moments is the beginning when he spells out "L-O-V-E."

It hearkens back to "F-I-N-A-L-L-Y" in "G-Spot."

The silhouette dancing is very reminiscent of Michael Jackson in "In The Closet."

People coming out of the ceiling reminds us of the video for "If" by Janet Jackson from her 1993 janet. album.

The storyline in the lyrics pulls a bit from "Come," with the sexual depravity and humiliation fetishes.

The whole of the Beautiful experience video is like some weird bizarro universe circus side show. The BDSM cyclops in "Interactive," the Medusa visuals in "Pheromone," the different round platforms in the concert itself make us think of the same types of platforms used in ciruses for elephants and tigers.

nosajd said:

Love Pheromone and the Come album, such good tunes

Is that you in your Avatar pic playing guitar?

Astasheiks said:

lurker316 said:

I must be in the minority. I'd rank Come as a bottom 5 album.

Perhaps if the Glam Slam Ulysses version of the title track was used instead I'd like it better. The album version of Come is one of my least favorite songs by any artists. Its super derivative. It sounds like it could have come from any middle-of-the-road '90s R&B artist. In contrast, the GSU version is like nothing else on the radio. It is uniquely Prince.

But to get back on topic, I do like Phermone. Not a favorite, but a decent song.

Where may one hear the "Glam Slam Ulysses version of Come"? I like the Come album version, so I would probably really dig the version you talk about...

TrivialPursuit said:

One of the interesting moments is the beginning when he spells out "L-O-V-E."

It hearkens back to "F-I-N-A-L-L-Y" in "G-Spot."

The silhouette dancing is very reminiscent of Michael Jackson in "In The Closet."

People coming out of the ceiling reminds us of the video for "If" by Janet Jackson from her 1993 janet. album.

The storyline in the lyrics pulls a bit from "Come," with the sexual depravity and humiliation fetishes.

The whole of the Beautiful experience video is like some weird bizarro universe circus side show. The BDSM cyclops in "Interactive," the Medusa visuals in "Pheromone," the different round platforms in the concert itself make us think of the same types of platforms used in ciruses for elephants and tigers.

The Beautiful experience video feels like an acid trip.

paisleyparkgirl said:

The Beautiful experience video feels like an acid trip.

I've never been on an acid trip, so I'm gonna take yer word on that one. But - I can see it.

Nobody knows what an acid trip even is!

Yes, always loved the song and the album Come, one of his most underrated albums.

Prince had those stalker-moments every once in a while

"following him whenever he's with you" —When You Were Mine

and this entire song lol one of my favorite tracks of the era

fen said:

olb99 said:

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Exactly. This applies to a lot of the music I listen to, actually. Not that I'm embarrassed by it, but I know that "most people" are on a completely different planet when it comes to music.

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I remember a time when I was listening to some Herbie Hancock at work and a colleague of mine asked: "What is this crap?" (or something to that effect) And it was one of the funkiest versions of "Spider" I've ever heard (the version with Wah-Wah Watson, Bill Evans, Darryl Jones, etc. from 1989). Come on.

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My brother, who is also a Miles Davis fan, was blasting "Agharta" in his room with his windows open, once when he was a teenager (that was a long time ago, in the late 80s). A friend of his came near his (open) window and, again, thought my brother was completely crazy to listen to that kind of music.

Both you and your brother have impeccable taste! I was listening to Agharta on my headphones today funnily enough. I've just ordered a JBL bluetooth speaker to listen to on my travels, so the inhabitants of small town where I live should be really pleased. I'm looking forward to sharing Naked City/John Zorn's Torture Garden with everyone at my local coffee shop.

I must admit I'm not familiar with John Zorn. Do you have any suggestions (let's say 2-3 recordings)?

Astasheiks said:

lurker316 said:

I must be in the minority. I'd rank Come as a bottom 5 album.

Perhaps if the Glam Slam Ulysses version of the title track was used instead I'd like it better. The album version of Come is one of my least favorite songs by any artists. Its super derivative. It sounds like it could have come from any middle-of-the-road '90s R&B artist. In contrast, the GSU version is like nothing else on the radio. It is uniquely Prince.

But to get back on topic, I do like Phermone. Not a favorite, but a decent song.

Where may one hear the "Glam Slam Ulysses version of Come"? I like the Come album version, so I would probably really dig the version you talk about...

Most things are on youtube these days, just search, "Prince Come"

If you like the album version, you might not like the other versions, they are very, very different. Personally, I always loved them having first heard the song on The Beautiful Experience video, before the album was released, the album version was quite jarring.

For me, The album version is my least favourtite version by a long way.