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Thread started 08/20/22 3:11pm

paisleyparkgir
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Was Prince going through personal stuff when he filmed Graffiti Bridge ?

This is not a another "Shade Graffiti Bridge" post more like me thinking out loud and I know he was playing a character but something about his energy seems very "down" in the movie, I can't put my finger on it. It makes me wonder whether he was was going through some professional and personal stuff around that time.

Including "Can't stop This feeling I got" would have lifted the mood of the movie by the way. I wish I could see a clear version one day.

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Reply #1 posted 08/20/22 6:19pm

RJOrion

The whole movie set was dark and somewhat sinister...kinda like a Batman movie.
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Reply #2 posted 08/21/22 2:36am

mb71

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never mind. why do i bother? lol

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Reply #3 posted 08/21/22 6:58am

LoveGalore

mb71 said:

never mind. why do i bother? lol

[Edited 8/21/22 2:38am]



???

Give it a chance, would ya. Speak ur truth, sis.
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Reply #4 posted 08/21/22 8:07am

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One can only speculate, but after the reception of UTCM, a person would have to have balls of steel to have another go at making a proper dramatic film. I'd expect that he was spilling over with confidence, likely spurred on by Batman and SOTT.

So yeah, I'd bet on 'sad, depressed' Prince being just a character choice, and nothing more.



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Reply #5 posted 08/23/22 12:57am

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well... I'm thinking that not being able to use the original scripts he wanted to film and possibly getting the financing before the point he couldn't use the scripts anymore.. he had to make the movie. So throw some ideas about the Time movie and good and evil together with a spiritual sauce and just do it to meet the contracts. I mean, I'm sure not even Prince thought it was good.

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Reply #6 posted 08/23/22 1:37am

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eyewishuheaven said:

One can only speculate, but after the reception of UTCM, a person would have to have balls of steel to have another go at making a proper dramatic film. I'd expect that he was spilling over with confidence, likely spurred on by Batman and SOTT.

So yeah, I'd bet on 'sad, depressed' Prince being just a character choice, and nothing more.



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I donb't know, wasn't it around this time he had lawsuits coming left and right for whatever and Paisley Park wasn't drawing in what he hoped?
I think he almost went bankrupt around this time and almost had to shut down Paisley Park until Sinead O Conner and MC Hammer helped him financially with Nothing Compares 2 U and the samples MC Hammer used (Soft and Wet and When Doves Cry)
I think I also read at the time that that was the reason of him doing the Nude Tour with mostly hits.
Diamonds and Pearls was a much needed hit then.

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Reply #7 posted 08/23/22 2:43am

SoulAlive

He was dating Kim Basinger around that time and then that relationship ended.I don’t know if or how it really affected him,though.
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Reply #8 posted 08/23/22 5:09am

funkbabyandthe
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I always wondered why he had such little new material for this album. Seemed like most of it was old vault stuff...
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Reply #9 posted 08/23/22 7:17am

LoveGalore

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

I always wondered why he had such little new material for this album. Seemed like most of it was old vault stuff...


Only a couple of these songs were brand new, sure.

But the rest had been earmarked for Purple Rain and/or a potential sequel since at least 1982. Only Tick Tick Bang stands out to me as a weird choice.
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Reply #10 posted 08/23/22 7:57am

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I realized that it was around the time that he was rehearsing for the Nude tour and he had the "fight" with Miko where he apologized and revealed that he was in fact under a lot of pressure because he was also shooting a movie.

I guess I answered my own question. It's interesting because even though it was a movie but I could sense something going on with his energy at that time.

In Purple Rain for example, his character is moody but I could clearly sense that he was excited and happy during that time of his life.

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Reply #11 posted 08/23/22 10:51am

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Better question: Was Prince ever NOT going through "personal stuff"?

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Reply #12 posted 08/23/22 11:30am

mediumdry

SoulAlive said:

He was dating Kim Basinger around that time and then that relationship ended.I don’t know if or how it really affected him,though.

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Well... she made him not use the script they wrote together, he must have been pissed about that. smile

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Reply #13 posted 08/24/22 2:41am

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mediumdry said:



SoulAlive said:


He was dating Kim Basinger around that time and then that relationship ended.I don’t know if or how it really affected him,though.

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Well... she made him not use the script they wrote together, he must have been pissed about that. smile




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Reply #14 posted 08/24/22 8:07am

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I think, post Lovesexy, Prince was having partial writers block. He was still churning stuff out, but lyrically he didn't know what he wanted to say and what sound to go with in the face on the changing music scene.

I think that lack of direction is reflective in the quality of some of the tracks from Batman/Rave and the fact that GB was stuffed with vault tracks.

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Reply #15 posted 08/24/22 11:00am

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mediumdry said:

SoulAlive said:

He was dating Kim Basinger around that time and then that relationship ended.I don’t know if or how it really affected him,though.

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Well... she made him not use the script they wrote together, he must have been pissed about that. smile

I really hate that Prince let his love life get in the way of his career.

Imagine if Purple Rain would have been with Vanity or if he would have used Basinger's script for Graffiti Bridge.

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Reply #16 posted 08/24/22 11:51pm

SoulAlive

an insider who saw that early script described it like this: “it’s about a guy who goes on a search for God.God looks a lot like Kim Basinger”

lol it’s a good thing he didn’t go with that script!
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Reply #17 posted 08/24/22 11:53pm

SoulAlive

SquirrelMeat said:

I think, post Lovesexy, Prince was having partial writers block. He was still churning stuff out, but lyrically he didn't know what he wanted to say and what sound to go with in the face on the changing music scene.

I think that lack of direction is reflective in the quality of some of the tracks from Batman/Rave and the fact that GB was stuffed with vault tracks.



I do think that the late-80s was a challenging period for Prince.The musical landscape had changed considerably.
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Reply #18 posted 09/03/22 8:58am

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paisleyparkgirl said:



mediumdry said:




SoulAlive said:


He was dating Kim Basinger around that time and then that relationship ended.I don’t know if or how it really affected him,though.

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Well... she made him not use the script they wrote together, he must have been pissed about that. smile




I really hate that Prince let his love life get in the way of his career.



Imagine if Purple Rain would have been with Vanity or if he would have used Basinger's script for Graffiti Bridge.


Who is to say the Prince/Basinger script was any better? Also, what would Vanity have brought to Purple Rain other than a freakishly long torso?
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Reply #19 posted 09/03/22 9:03am

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rockford said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I really hate that Prince let his love life get in the way of his career.

Imagine if Purple Rain would have been with Vanity or if he would have used Basinger's script for Graffiti Bridge.

Who is to say the Prince/Basinger script was any better? Also, what would Vanity have brought to Purple Rain other than a freakishly long torso?

Jill Jones said that it was much better.

About Purple Rain, Vanity and Prince had a real relationship so the chemistry would have been off the charts, and the movie was meant to be a little darker with Vanity in it.

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Reply #20 posted 09/04/22 12:22am

mediumdry

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Who is to say the Prince/Basinger script was any better?

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Couldn't have been any worse cool

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Reply #21 posted 09/04/22 1:17am

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im sure he was going through personal stuff... he had a bad script and had no objectivity to see it lol.

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Reply #22 posted 09/08/22 9:13am

Vannormal

paisleyparkgirl said:

I realized that it was around the time that he was rehearsing for the Nude tour and he had the "fight" with Miko where he apologized and revealed that he was in fact under a lot of pressure because he was also shooting a movie.

I guess I answered my own question. It's interesting because even though it was a movie but I could sense something going on with his energy at that time.

In Purple Rain for example, his character is moody but I could clearly sense that he was excited and happy during that time of his life.

Maybe the opiates started to kick in for the first time... who knows.

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Reply #23 posted 09/08/22 2:24pm

paisleyparkgir
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Vannormal said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I realized that it was around the time that he was rehearsing for the Nude tour and he had the "fight" with Miko where he apologized and revealed that he was in fact under a lot of pressure because he was also shooting a movie.

I guess I answered my own question. It's interesting because even though it was a movie but I could sense something going on with his energy at that time.

In Purple Rain for example, his character is moody but I could clearly sense that he was excited and happy during that time of his life.

Maybe the opiates started to kick in for the first time... who knows.

You could be onto something. That's all I'll say.

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Reply #24 posted 09/14/22 1:28pm

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SoulAlive said:

He was dating Kim Basinger around that time and then that relationship ended.I don’t know if or how it really affected him,though.


Kim Basinger's family came to Minneapolis (while Prince was away) and basically forced her to come home with them. They thought she was brainwashed.

So that's a little more than a relationship "ending". Not that it would have lasted too long anyway.

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