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Reply #30 posted 08/05/22 11:31am

RJOrion

LoveGalore said:

Like, pound for pound, Controversy is just a better album.

Controversy's guaranteed bangers:
Controversy
Sexuality
Do Me Baby
Private Joy
Let's Work
Annie Christian

Dirty Mind's guaranteed bangers:
Dirty Mind
When U Were Mine
Uptown
Head

How is this even a comparison?

Please can someone help me understand how Do It All Night, Sister, and Partyup could ever exist on an album considered better than Controversy?



"Party Up" is my favorite song on either album...the bass guitar, and rhythm guitar licks are so clear and crispy and fonky....i feel like Controversy and Dirty Mind are equally great albums...Controversy may be a little bit more polished, but i dig the demo quality, almost garage band sound of Dirty Mind too
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Reply #31 posted 08/05/22 12:09pm

SoulAlive

If we’re comparing the two albums,I think ‘Dirty Mind’ is the superior album.So groundbreaking and extremely bold! It’s a really important album in Prince’s catalog.I consider it to be Prince’s first masterpiece.

but ‘Controversy’ is great too smile
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Reply #32 posted 08/05/22 12:20pm

SoulAlive

RJOrion said:


“Party Up" is my favorite song on either album...the bass guitar, and rhythm guitar licks are so clear and crispy and fonky too


Indeed! cool

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Reply #33 posted 08/05/22 12:22pm

SoulAlive

I still hold out hope that both of these albums will eventually get SDEs biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 08/05/22 12:40pm

RJOrion

The live performance of "Partyup" on Saturday Night Live in February 1981, was probably Prince's greatest early career TV performance...P, Andre, Dez & Fink had amazing chemistry, intensity, and showmanship on that show... theyre STILL my favorite Prince band ever.
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Reply #35 posted 08/05/22 2:11pm

TrivialPursuit

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LoveGalore said:

Jack U Off is still a classic and it's distinctly Prince. That's Prince being the Prince we all know and love for damn near the first time.

Fine, Ronnie is a goofy song. Okay. But he just blew your brains out with Private Joy and that solo a second ago so you need some time to get your shit together anyway. Then the album continues to destroy your mind all over again.

And let's not even talk about how the melodies and the range of sounds are just better on Controversy. DM is filled with an extremely squeaky keyboard on every fucking song. And his falsetto never sounded more nasal than that record. No no no.


Ronnie is the punk funk, though, to me. It has the aggressiveness of punk, but the synthiness of funk. And you know, Controversy is probably one of Prince's most politically charged records in the 80s. I've written about "Sexuality" and "The Future" and their similiar stories and ideologies. "Ronnie" was very pointed considering what was going on at the time with Reagan just having taken office. The Cold War was still very much in play and we were still doing nuclear war drills in our schools. It's definitely not to be dismissed.

"Annie" touches on so much in the media at the time, and a lot of it having to do with Black children being killed by Wayne Williams, a twenty-three-year-old man, who spent three years on a murderous spree ultimately killing twenty-eight black children in Atlanta while driving a blue car.

The title track and "Sexuality" are just as political. I rather enjoyed it because it was very much the zeitgeist at the time. While bands have always been political, in the new age of new wave, pop, new romantics, punk and more, Prince took no reservations on addressing then-current day issues. I enjoyed that. I didn't understand all of it in the moment, but as I learned more about history I realized how important songs like "Sexuality", "Ronnie" and "Annie Christian" were to the narrative and conversation.

"Jack U Off" is pure Prince, as you noted. It's about straight up fuckin'. Both sides of that record are ended with heavly sexual songs. (The irony is that "Sexuality" isn't that sexual. That's why I almost expected "Orgasm" to be a song about cornbread or something when I saw Come's track listing.) And of course that guitar ending of "Ronnie" ends up in "Orgasm."

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #36 posted 08/05/22 3:29pm

RJOrion

NO Prince album sounds as good at super high volumes, than Dirty Mind.
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Reply #37 posted 08/08/22 2:01pm

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babysitters

Dm is the better more perfect album
Controversy is not quite as amazing but it has lots of top material
Its just let down by poor sequencing which puts all the best songs right at the front
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Reply #38 posted 08/09/22 4:02pm

SoulAlive

RJOrion said:

The live performance of "Partyup" on Saturday Night Live in February 1981, was probably Prince's greatest early career TV performance...P, Andre, Dez & Fink had amazing chemistry, intensity, and showmanship on that show... theyre STILL my favorite Prince band ever.

that performance is great!

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Reply #39 posted 08/10/22 5:57am

Vannormal

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Vannormal said:

kinda like that fucked up shit too wink

guilty pleasure.

The Cheyne cover is far superior.

Thanks.

downloaded it, it's so bad it's good. wink

Love it! Close to Prince's version.

S U P P O R T --- U K R A I N E --- N O W --- 4 --- MORE PEACE !!!
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Reply #40 posted 08/10/22 6:22am

Vannormal

There's just one thing that bothers me about this album, it is (way) too short.

That's how goddamen good it is!

Period!

It became even more brilliant over the years to me, if you compare it with anything later NPG-ish.

It sounds more timeless than Diamonds&Pearls, The Symlbol or anything after that (at least to me).

Say What?

Think about that opening dance beat, tighter then a 17 yo pussy, a dark prayer poored over the sparse funk with a gothic smell, and a guitarlick to die for, how controversial is that! Wet nickers that is!

Do Me Baby is fan-fuckin'-tas-tic!

I (once) remixed 'Ronnie ...' to have a longer version.

Did the same with 'Jack U Off', and added 'Irresistible Bitch' to it together with 'Horny Toad' in a slowed down dirty version. Just to have a longer album.

I kill everyone who think it doesn't! wink))))

Come on up you purple fools. I dare you! biggrin)))))

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Reply #41 posted 08/10/22 6:42am

LoveGalore

Dirty Mind sounds timeless? Oh boy...
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Reply #42 posted 08/10/22 8:13am

Vannormal

I also like the YACHT version of ''Annie Christian.''

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